#indiewebcamp 2015-04-20
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tantek really enjoying barryf's talk: https://vimeo.com/125167234 (in the middle now)
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aaronpk oh yeah he's the one who made https://micropublish.herokuapp.com/about
# aaronpk anyone should feel free to go vote on submissions here http://opensourcebridge.org/events/2015/proposals
# tantek aaronpk - osbridge sign in NASCAR keeps looking worse everytime I see it: http://opensourcebridge.org/sign_in
# aaronpk http://opensourcebridge.org/proposals/1491 "Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Pelican: A Comparison of Static Site Generators"
# tantek this one looked interesting too: http://opensourcebridge.org/proposals/1608 "Diversity-friendly social networks"
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Loqi [bridgy] Lauren Buchman RSVPed maybe to https://indiewebcamp.com/events/2015-04-22-homebrew-website-club (https://www.facebook.com/807045706055031#10152952206735090)
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@t great talk by @barryf on “Why We Need The IndieWeb” https://vimeo.com/125167234 with why, how to, markup, code etc. (ttk.me t4aj1) (twitter.com/_/status/589958119125430272)
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@kevinmarks RT @t: great talk by @barryf on “Why We Need The IndieWeb” https://vimeo.com/125167234 with why, how to, markup, code etc. (ttk.me t4aj1) (twitter.com/_/status/589958615512944641)
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@hundred37 RT @t: great talk by @barryf on “Why We Need The IndieWeb” https://vimeo.com/125167234 with why, how to, markup, code etc. (ttk.me t4aj1) (twitter.com/_/status/589959750214930433)
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@One2Ad_com RT @t: great talk by @barryf on “Why We Need The IndieWeb” https://vimeo.com/125167234 with why, how to, markup, code etc. (ttk.me t4aj1) (twitter.com/_/status/589968301570318336)
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@obiwankimberly RT @t: great talk by @barryf on “Why We Need The IndieWeb” https://vimeo.com/125167234 with why, how to, markup, code etc. (ttk.me t4aj1) (twitter.com/_/status/590007339752689664)
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@jordan_web Why we need the Indieweb https://vimeo.com/125167234 (twitter.com/_/status/590041296586158080)
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tantek.com edited /Home_automation (+98) "still a stub, silo example houseofcoates, see also indie box" (view diff)
# tantek.com moved /Home_automation to /home_automation "uncap"
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KevinMarks Take a look at @LeaVerou's Tweet: https://twitter.com/LeaVerou/status/590051703245922305?s=09
# Loqi KevinMarks: voxpelli left you a message 11 hours ago: I added a wiki page about the social graph, could you check and extend? https://indiewebcamp.com/social_graph http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2015-04-19/line/1429475645423
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@LeaVerou Many are saying (rightly) that they use jQuery because so many plugins depend on it. We need a website w/ links to alternatives. Any takers? (twitter.com/_/status/590051703245922305)
# KevinMarks Interesting idea from Lea
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voxpelli She opened an issue at https://github.com/h5bp/lazyweb-requests/issues/178 to keep track of it
# KevinMarks http://lea.verou.me/2015/04/jquery-considered-harmful/ was her original anti jquery post yesterday
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@Freerange_Inc Should museums be frequenting+creating online platforms for exploring collections that are not silos? #sociablemuseum #MuseumNext #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/590102030867390464)
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@geobourazanas @LeaVerou what about to connecting them? https://blog.vrypan.net/2015/01/11/testing-my-webmentions-server/ (twitter.com/_/status/590113526280237056)
# @geobourazanas @LeaVerou what about to connect them? https://blog.vrypan.net/2015/01/11/testing-my-webmentions-server/ (twitter.com/_/status/590113817708908545)
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@MikeRoddie why in a technology era do we keep our data in paper form or distribute over many apps there is a better way to #ownyourdata @ownyourinfo (twitter.com/_/status/590122915120611330)
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@andkjaer Instagram Post Notifications: This Week in Social Media >> http://www.socialmediaexaminer.com/?p=81948&utm_content=bufferae0e4&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer #SocialMedia Tip from Cindy King. #SelfPublish #IndieAuth… (twitter.com/_/status/590129291498803200)
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ben_thatmustbeme good morning
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@LukasRosenstock @sipgateio Das findet doch dann parallel zum @indiewebcamp statt, oder? (twitter.com/_/status/590134889376260097)
# ben_thatmustbeme notifications still aren't working quite right. I think i have it figured out to get them synchronized across systems though
# ben_thatmustbeme also, need to figure out how to have it merge multiple notifications in to one
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# ben_thatmustbeme notification of incoming webmentions, and clicking brings up a list of new comments/ etc
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jonnybarnes anyone here used PuSH before?
# jonnybarnes right, do I just set up the link headers for my notes feed, then set my site to send a POST request to a hub when I post a new note?
# jonnybarnes and the first time I update my feed should the hub automatically add my site as a topic?
# jonnybarnes or do you have to register to hubs?
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@coderdojoli RT @NZN: #indie #indieweb @indie are some of most important concept markers these days..tools/methods supporting them need much love..#sust… (twitter.com/_/status/590151143646318593)
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# aaronpk jonnybarnes: https://indiewebcamp.com/how-to-push#How_to_Publish
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# aaronpk e.g. my site was publishing these two endpoints: https://aaronparecki.com/webmention?token=xxx https://webmention.io/webmention?forward=https%3A%2F%2Faaronparecki.com%2Fpingback%3Ftoken%3Dxxx
# tantek aaronpk, hmm - looks like expiring is still useful for DDOS? http://indiewebcamp.com/DDOS#Expiring_token_in_endpoint
# Loqi tantek meant to say: aaronpk, hmm - looks like expiring is still useful for mitigating DDOS? http://indiewebcamp.com/DDOS#Expiring_token_in_endpoint
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# tantek.com edited /spam (+308) "/* Spam Prevention */ Ineffective, Expiring token in endpoint (though useful for mitigating DDOS)" (view diff)
# tantek aaronpk: feel free to add to https://indiewebcamp.com/spam#Expiring_token_in_endpoint
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tommorris.org edited /events/2015-04-22-homebrew-website-club (-21) "/* RSVP */ un-RSVPing. I do not have a valid passport so will not be able to enter the United States. :(" (view diff)
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@olleolleolle @Strabd Your know, I don't know you, but i kinda want to be in your extended neighborhood. Is this what indieweb is about? (twitter.com/_/status/590197873050050560)
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@thierrymarianne RT @t: great talk by @barryf on “Why We Need The IndieWeb” https://vimeo.com/125167234 with why, how to, markup, code etc. (ttk.me t4aj1) (twitter.com/_/status/590205165384429569)
# Loqi [mention] Aaron Parecki posted 'Since webmention is just a simplified version of pingback, it is just as susceptible to the same type of spam as pingback. With webmention, ...' linking to https://indiewebcamp.com/spam#The_Coming_Spam_Storm (https://aaronparecki.com/articles/2015/04/20/1/results-from-six-months-of-expiring-webmention-endpoints)
# Loqi [mention] Aaron Parecki posted 'Since webmention is just a simplified version of pingback, it is just as susceptible to the same type of spam as pingback. With webmention, ...' linking to http://indiewebcamp.com/spam (https://aaronparecki.com/articles/2015/04/20/1/results-from-six-months-of-expiring-webmention-endpoints)
# aaronpk also a GET request to his pingback endpoint returns an HTTP code for payment required :P http://tracking.damowmow.com/
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gRegorLove Should .org do the same?
# Loqi gRegorLove: tantek left you a message 1 day ago: I added July candidate dates for IWC 2015 - please take a look at add your availability! https://indiewebcamp.com/2015#Candidate_Dates http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2015-04-19/line/1429462403859
# gRegorLove looks
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aaronparecki.com edited /events/2015-04-22-homebrew-website-club (-23) "add pdx and rsvp myself!" (view diff)
# aaronparecki.com edited /events/2015-05-20-homebrew-website-club (-32) "let's get this one set up ahead of time!" (view diff)
# gRegorLove GWG: Who else is coming to NYC this week? zachdonovan?
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# gRegorLove NYC has a FB URL listed https://www.facebook.com/events/1596554663924436/
# gRegorLove PDX could use an indie/FB URL though
# KevinMarks tommorris did you check https://www.gov.uk/get-a-passport-urgently
# gRegorLove Hehe
# gRegorLove kicks gRegor-hwc1
# gRegorLove Past me, from last HWC :)
# tantek GWG, can you invite all past IWC NYC participants to https://www.facebook.com/events/1596554663924436/ ?
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# gRegorLove Buh bye, past me.
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@jonathanfrei Why We Need the Indieweb on Vimeo https://j-f.me/b/1gQ (twitter.com/_/status/590217527772499972)
# @jonathanfrei Why We Need the Indieweb on Vimeo https://j-f.me/b/1gR (twitter.com/_/status/590217565428981761)
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# Loqi [bridgy] Tessa Horehled RSVPed maybe to https://indiewebcamp.com/events/2015-04-22-homebrew-website-club (https://www.facebook.com/1596554663924436#10152681837126819)
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# aaronparecki.com edited /connected_home (+3) "i've been in markdown land too long today" (view diff)
# gRegorLove Wow, stupidest Twitter decision in a while. Now anyone can DM you. http://www.cnet.com/news/twitter-upgrading-direct-messaging-feature/
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sparverius gRegorLove: it's opt in
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# gRegorLove Where?
# sparverius settings.
# gRegorLove Hm. Are we certain this isn't on by default for new accounts?
# sparverius i think people assume it's on by default
# gRegorLove Yeah, the article indicates they've tested it since 2013
# sparverius gRegorLove: are YOU certain it's not on by default?
# sparverius if it's on and you didnt turn it on you might have been compromised
# gRegorLove "You've been compromised by twitter dot com"
# gRegorLove Lulz, no my account is fine.
# gRegorLove You'll just have to pardon me for not having the most faith in Twitter.
# gRegorLove Opt in today, who knows tomorrow.
# sparverius tbh if someone wants to DM me they can send me a fucking email like god goddamned intended. i really dont need another siloed private messaging system that isn't really, REALLY private
# sparverius i have a few DMs that basically are like "just email me dude"
# gRegorLove I'm mostly concerned about harassment issues, which has already been bad on Twitter
# gRegorLove Yes, as long as it stays that way.
# sparverius that implies that twitter's going to just flip a switch some day
# sparverius when they havent expressed any intent to.
# gRegorLove Lulz, silo's intents
# sparverius right but i just dont see the point in speculating, since they could do it at any time, including today
# sparverius so just assume they're going to make the bad choice
# sparverius assume they already did and you're getting spammed by hatebots
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KartikPrabhu turned off DMs and other nonsense I had never noticed
# sparverius man i gotta set up gnu social
# sparverius gRegorLove: if they piss of their users, its bad for them. and twitter has had a history of not blindsiding users about major community/platform changes like DMs on by default
# sparverius but yeah. twitter lol.
# sparverius kylewm: hopefully we can make it "tens of cool people + n"
# gRegorLove uh, guess you're not familiar with Twitter new emails of the week.
# gRegorLove Each week a new email you're opted into by default. https://twitter.com/settings/notifications is ridiculous now.
# gRegorLove We're just the users, not the money :)
# sparverius that's a click driver and i dont think too influential on the core socializing functions.
# gRegorLove Yeah. A friend has 60 accounts and those are the bane of her existence
# sparverius but yeah twitter's getting kind of spammy
# gRegorLove That's an improvement
# gRegorLove Ooh, 2012. Either I never noticed the date, or I thought you'd written about that more recently
# gRegorLove Oof
# gRegorLove Probably.
# KevinMarks_ we've probably grumbled about it longer
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@ianhsuth Out this week! Learn how to attract over 400 new followers every day and sell more books! https://booklaunch.io/author/seriouslyadvancedtwitter #TwitterTips #Indieauth (twitter.com/_/status/590298998143115264)