#indieweb 2017-04-12

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Loqi [superfeedr] "A New Way to “Know and Master Your Social Media Flow”" by Chris Aldrich on 2017-04-12 http://boffosocko.com/2017/04/11/a-new-way-to-know-and-master-your-social-media-flow/
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@ChrisAldrich A New Way to "Know and Master Your Social Media Flow" #Indieweb http://boffosocko.com/2017/04/11/a-new-way-to-know-and-master-your-social-media-flow/ (twitter.com/_/status/851954887843872768)
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Loqi [superfeedr] "@kevinmarks bug report discussion here https://github.com/tootsuite/mastodon/issues/177#issuecomment-291688638 #indieweb" by Kevin Marks on 2017-04-05 http://known.kevinmarks.com/2017/kevinmarks-bug-report-discussion-here-tootsuitemastodonissues177issuecomment-291688638-indieweb
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Loqi [superfeedr] "Federation is hard. Let's go indieweb. https://macgirvin.com/channel/mike/?f=&mid=1b375d3c1144d54f312e7c02d804d5dc27c8e64218a813e19486f5639726a060@macgirvin.com" by Kevin Marks on 2017-04-08 http://known.kevinmarks.com/2017/federation-is-hard-lets-go-indieweb-channelmikefampmid1b375d3c1144d54f312e7c02d804d5dc27c8e64218a813e19486f5639726a060macgirvincom
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Loqi [superfeedr] "useful thought for the mastodon.social fediverse: support rel="canonical me" for migrating between instances #indieweb" by Kevin Marks on 2017-04-05 http://known.kevinmarks.com/2017/useful-thought-for-the-mastodonsocial-fediverse-support-relcanonical-me-for
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Loqi [superfeedr] "I did tell y'all about Mastodon last November, remember? https://youtu.be/UHunxMTRCJc?t=1h16m6s #indieweb #websub #PubSubHubbub" by Kevin Marks on 2017-04-09 http://known.kevinmarks.com/2017/i-did-tell-yall-about-mastodon-last-november-remember-uhunxmtrcjct1h16m6s
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miklb so a question about u-featured. That can be done at the theme level, but a new user might not know that. Should it be in the bridgy-publish plugin or just documented?
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miklb to clarify this is a WP related question.
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[cleverdevil] Good evening, IndieWeb ?
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miklb O_/
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tantek good evening #indieweb
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gRegorLove Good evening, tantek
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tantek I feel I heard about this a while ago, but I'm wondering how many companies will shift to their own TLDs e.g. https://blog.google/topics/diversity/our-focus-pay-equity/
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[kevinmarks] They wanted google.blog but automattic got that
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[kevinmarks] I'm a little worried about what happens when these new tlds realise that they aren't selling many domains and Jack up the prices to renew
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Loqi [superfeedr] "http://xn--rpa.cc/essays/infrastructure by @velartrill “Let’s work together and build something no corporation can control, and no one accident — or calculated act of malice — can" by Kevin Marks on 2017-04-12 http://known.kevinmarks.com/2017/--rpaccessaysinfrastructure-by-velartrill-lets-work-together-and-build-something-no
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sknebel [kevinmarks]: already happening: https://www.gandi.net/news/en/2017-03-06/10983-significant_price_increase_on_16_tlds/
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bnvk I wonder what that's about- simple free market equilibrium or something else going on
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Loqi bnvk: tantek left you a message 1 week, 5 days ago: would you be able to help make a simultaneous IWC Berlin (or other European city) happen the same weekend at IndieWebSummit in Portland? We did it a few years ago with bnvk organizing and it was great!
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@GlennRicePro Currently, impressed with #Mastodon. Just like Facebook and Twitter but strangers being civil. Who woulda thunk it? #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/852132430630834177)
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@GlennRicePro Currently impressed with #Mastodon. Like Facebook &Twitter but strangers being civil. Who would've thought? Reminded of BBS days #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/852132850505834496)
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jeremycherfas Good morning
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[kevinmarks] They have a big sunk cost to get a tld in the first place, so if they aren't selling they will try and gouge existing users. Then they'll go bankrupt and someone else will buy the domain from them I suppose.
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hs0ucy pwd
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petermolnar hs0ucy freenode/#indieweb
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hs0ucy petermolnar: Oups, sorry ! Wrong window :S
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@grantcodes Day 94 of #100DaysOfCode: Added RSVP support to my #indieweb chatbot and site ? with automatic webmention sending. https://grant.codes/2017/04/12/58ee3c3a9f99400e56703316 (twitter.com/_/status/852173470645538816)
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tantek good morning #indieweb!
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aaronpk good morning!
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[jeremycherfas] Good morning
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Loqi morning!
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sknebel morning!
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Loqi [indienews] New post: "Notes for HomebrewWebsiteClub 2017-04-05" https://www.svenknebel.de/posts/2017/4/4/
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miklb so I've successfully filtered the oembed html stored in the WP database for tweets to add the `u-url` to the correct link.
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martymcguire[m] miklb++ congrats!
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Loqi miklb has 20 karma in this channel (22 overall)
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miklb thanks. Not sure if it is something that can translate to the greater community, but kinda felt good to get to the bottom of it ?
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miklb between that and adding `u-featured` to WP featured images, feel a little productive
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[jeremycherfas] miklb You had to go into the database? I thought you could do that with a filter in custom functions.php
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miklb [jeremycherfas] well, WP stores the oembed html in the database
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[jeremycherfas] No, I get that, but in my reading around — prior to actually doing something — I’ve only seen fixes for `functions.php`
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miklb oh, yeah, I am actually doing it in the kind.php file at the moment. Just meant I'm filtering the postmeta stored in the DB
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[jeremycherfas] Ah, right.
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[jeremycherfas] Well, as I say, I haven’t actually done anything myself, because I’d actually like to include an audio player in the oEmbed for my podcast site. And I haven’t had clear time to try it.
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gRegorLove Good morning, #indieweb
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miklb [jeremycherfas] cool. I'm only scratching the surface and targeting a specific use case for me at this point. Was just completely confusing where that was coming from
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miklb that meaning the full blockquote HTML
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GWG miklb, glad to hear things are working out
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miklb GWG it was a deep rabbit hole I went down lol
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GWG ?
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GWG Been down many
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miklb I would like to see how this could help with bridgy-publish
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GWG I keep trying to get things working seamlessly.
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GWG Hi, ben_thatmustbeme
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ben_thatmustbeme hey GWG
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ben_thatmustbeme hows it going?
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GWG miklb, file the issue
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GWG Tired.
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ben_thatmustbeme sleep
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ben_thatmustbeme :P
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GWG Having trouble. But we'll see.
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[cleverdevil] Morning, IndieWeb ?
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GWG I haven't been at my computer in two days.
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GWG I want to resume some Indieweb stuff
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GWG So many good conversations here while I have been occupied
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ben_thatmustbeme what do you plan to work on?
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GWG So many things. I was in the midst of some fixes based on filled issues in my Post Kinds plugin, which does types of posts.
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[cleverdevil] I was up tinkering last night on something: http://share.cleverdevil.io/KSdQNkynvL.png
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GWG I have contributions to Webmentions
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GWG Fixes for location support
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GWG Etc
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[cleverdevil] You can create these now manually, but I'm pretty close as well to having them created automatically via a webhook with Plex.
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[cleverdevil] So, when I watch a movie or TV show on my Plex server, it'll post to my website.
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GWG Fancy
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[eddie] That’s awesome cleverdevil!!!
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[cleverdevil] I have the endpoint created, but will likely need some help from a Known expert on the last little bit.
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[cleverdevil] Its cloooooose.
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ben_thatmustbeme no nice!
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ben_thatmustbeme cleverdevil++
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Loqi cleverdevil has 20 karma in this channel (26 overall)
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[eddie] I wish some of the more closed systems allowed Web Hooks. lol nothing i use to watch tv or movies allows Web Hooks ?
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ben_thatmustbeme plex hook to update watched statuses, super cool
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ben_thatmustbeme i want that
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GWG I want everything
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[cleverdevil] ?
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ben_thatmustbeme GWG, so do that
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ben_thatmustbeme :P
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ben_thatmustbeme everything that is
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[cleverdevil] I was going to try and do my health/activity tracking first, but it turned out to be a bit more complex than I want.
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[cleverdevil] I'll get to it eventually.
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GWG You sound like my mother.
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GWG That's what she used to say
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gRegorLove do all the indieweb things!
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ben_thatmustbeme indieweb all the things
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Loqi http://meme.loqi.me/m/4nozpQTH.jpg
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GWG ben_thatmustbeme: I get closer every month
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ben_thatmustbeme GWG, how difficult is the Wordpress indieweb path
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[cleverdevil] Here's the Endpoint.php -> https://gist.github.com/cleverdevil/e3fe357d3c4a84bfc71d2dd4958191c6
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[cleverdevil] Not sure what I'm doing wrong ?
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GWG It is a pothole filled road and I am working on filling the holes.
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[jeremycherfas] miklb I have barely focussed my itch, let alone started to scratch.
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ben_thatmustbeme just make it a pretty pothole filled road, people are too busy looking at the flowers, haha
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Loqi hehe
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[jeremycherfas] cleverdevil Do you do health/tracking on open source apps? If so, which? Everything I look at that seems reasonably straightforward is proprietary, even if they do have export formats.
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miklb GWG filed https://github.com/dshanske/bridgy-publish/issues/29
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[cleverdevil] jeremycherfas I use my iPhone and Apple Watch, and I was making some good progress on finding some open APIs that could sync the data up and make it possible.
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[cleverdevil] But, I ran out of steam.
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[cleverdevil] What is health?
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Loqi Health is an iOS app from Apple that allows users to track data collected by HealthKit, which includes things like sleep tracking, heart rate, steps, exercises, and more, which are collected via the Apple Watch and the iPhone https://indieweb.org/Health
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[cleverdevil] I put some info on that page, specifically was looking at HumanAPI.
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[cleverdevil] What is HumanAPI?
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Loqi HumanAPI is a platform for real-time access to digital, structured health and medical data, including from mobile devices and apps https://indieweb.org/HumanAPI
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[cleverdevil] I'm pretty sure that is the way to go. It connects with a bunch of different health and fitness devices and platforms, standardizes their data, and makes it available through an open API.
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[eddie] ohhh, so if we made an OwnYourHealth that connected to HumanAPI, we would be able to support more people than just iOS?
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[cleverdevil] Yes, that was exactly my thinking.
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[jeremycherfas] I don’t have an Apple watch, and track with Garmin and Cyclemeter. Recently joined Strava, which shares from Cyclemeter very well. Garmin just crashes. Ideally if I had everything in Strava, I’d have one place to get data from.
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[cleverdevil] IIRC, HumanAPI connects with Strava.
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[jeremycherfas] I think I remember seeing that.
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[cleverdevil] http://humanapi.readme.io/v1.1/page/data-network
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[cleverdevil] I was exploring with this: http://hub.humanapi.co/v1.0/page/apple-health-data
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[eddie] Oh yeah, they’ve got awesome integration
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[cleverdevil] Health << http://hub.humanapi.co/v1.0/page/apple-health-data
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Loqi ok, I added "http://hub.humanapi.co/v1.0/page/apple-health-data" to the "See Also" section of /Health
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[jeremycherfas] cleverdevil Actually, it looks like the simplest route for me would be to push everything from Strava into Health.
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[cleverdevil] Blurgh. So close on this webhook.
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[cleverdevil] Its actually creating the entity in Known, but for some reason it doesn't show up on the site ?
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[cleverdevil] I can see it in the DB, even.
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[cleverdevil] http://share.cleverdevil.io/Hp3jwkYrPj.png
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Loqi [superfeedr] "Comment on The IndieWeb and Journalism by The Undercover Indiewebber | Jeremy Cherfas" by The Undercover Indiewebber &#124; Jeremy Cherfas on 2017-04-12 http://boffosocko.com/2017/01/13/the-indieweb-and-journalism/#comment-34407
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tantek cleverdevil, jeremycherfas, I know a few folks who work at Strava. It may be possible to get some indieweb /friendly support in there
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ben_thatmustbeme anyone do any testing of mf2 via rspec?
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ben_thatmustbeme or rather anyone using rails for their app and have some tests
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tantek what is rspec?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "rspec" yet. Would you like to create it?
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tantek !tell cleverdevil,jeremycherfas if you have feature suggestions for Strava (e.g. to make it more indieweb friendly) please add here! https://indieweb.org/Strava#Brainstorming
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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Loqi [superfeedr] "@grantpotter I found @nxD4n started something, but it's not ready yet https://github.com/danito/KnownMastodon #mastodon #indieweb" by Ricardo Mendes on 2017-04-12 https://www.rmendes.net/2017/grantpotter-i-found-nxd4n-started-something-but-its-not-ready
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@rMdes_ @grantpotter I found @nxD4n started something, but it's not ready yet https://github.com/danito/KnownMastodon #mastodon #indieweb (https://www.rmendes.net/s/4VZJy) (twitter.com/_/status/852241160508780544)
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dgold here's something from tencenturies which might be of interest:
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dgold http://tinyurl.com/lzqheon [ https://10centuries.org/post/133256 ]
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dgold "v5 is the indie web, mesh network version that will remove the silo for those who wish to self host."
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dgold (he means v5 of the API
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tantek what is 10c
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Loqi 10 Centuries (10C) is a blogging/microposting silo, similar in scope and intent to App.net, for posting notes of up to 1,024 bytes, and longer-form articles up to 8,192 bytes https://indieweb.org/10C
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tantek dgold, cool! probably worth adding a summary to that effect here ^^^
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[chrisaldrich] dgold I don't remember, but has matigo made any parts of 10C open source for potential PRs?
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dgold [chrisaldrich]: I've not been looking. I went down the rabbit hole there for a bit on pnut, a site who's charms have definitely worn thin on me.
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dgold but I'll see what I can dig up.
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gRegorLove 2 replies down in that thread, which I can't seem to copy/paste or find a permalink for "v5 will be completely open from the get go"
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[jeremycherfas] tantek I'm still very new in Strava but will bear that in mind.
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Loqi [jeremycherfas]: tantek left you a message 40 minutes ago: if you have feature suggestions for Strava (e.g. to make it more indieweb friendly) please add here! https://indieweb.org/Strava#Brainstorming
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[jeremycherfas] chrisaldrich None of 10C is open source yet. I think V5 will be the first move in that direction.
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gRegorLove Can't even click to user profiles in that thread. Weird.
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@sdepolo .@RachelMooreRS: have @t guest on #letslivestream showing how to thread all social 2 one domain via #indieWeb like his site (twitter.com/_/status/852250464271847424)
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Loqi [superfeedr] "Jeremy, thanks for another great example in the wild of another journalist doing this type of workflow. I know you read the article "What" by Chris Aldrich on 2017-04-12 http://stream.boffosocko.com/2017/jeremy-thanks-for-another-great-example-in-the-wild-of
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[kevinmarks] This week in Google coming up. Obviously mastodon and websub
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[kevinmarks] But do send me more
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tantek mastodon microformats support to be sure
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ben_thatmustbeme \o/
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ben_thatmustbeme same with upcoming.org too
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ben_thatmustbeme oh, that wasn't merged yet
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[kevinmarks] can we nudge andy to merge it too?
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@kevinmarks Live now on This Week in Google with @leolaporte @jeffjarvis @gigastacey talking mastodon, gnusocial #indieweb and more (twitter.com/_/status/852265263978250244)
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Loqi [superfeedr] "Live now on This Week in Google with @leolaporte @jeffjarvis @gigastacey talking mastodon, gnusocial #indieweb and more" by Kevin Marks on 2017-04-12 http://known.kevinmarks.com/2017/live-now-on-this-week-in-google-with-leolaporte-jeffjarvis
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tantek what is WebSub
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Loqi WebSub is the new name of PubSub https://indieweb.org/WebSub
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tantek lol
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tantek I'd say with the WebSub CR it's time to update
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[dgold] cleverdevil you are hitting same issue I ran into with reposts; it was going into to the db but not showing on the site.
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[cleverdevil] dgold oh? How did you fix it?
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Loqi [cleverdevil]: tantek left you a message 3 hours, 3 minutes ago: if you have feature suggestions for Strava (e.g. to make it more indieweb friendly) please add here! https://indieweb.org/Strava#Brainstorming
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gRegorLove Kevinmarks discussion Mastodon now: https://twit.tv/live
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tantek KevinMarks: announce annual Indie Web Summit is confirmed for June 24-25 in Portland Oregon
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tantek 2017.indieweb.org is up! in case that wasn't clear
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[dgold] cleverdevil oh, I'm afraid I didn't. Went back to 0.9.1
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[cleverdevil] Ah... I think part of the problem is that I'm hitting an endpoint that has no session, and therefore isn't setting an "owner" on the created entity.
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[cleverdevil] Its just a plain webhook.
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[dgold] Sorry, not very helpful ?
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[cleverdevil] No worries.
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[dgold] But I utterly love your 'watching' -- it's what I've been looking for in 'reading'
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@LaurenJBuchman This just in - IndieWeb Summit in Portland Registration is live! https://2017.indieweb.org/ (twitter.com/_/status/852288205680394242)
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[cleverdevil] I'll toss up what I have so far at some point and see if I can get a Known expert to take a look at the endpoint.
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[cleverdevil] The rest of it works great, so far ?
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[dgold] cleverdevil++
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[cleverdevil] Ah, hah!
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[cleverdevil] Got it working ?
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[cleverdevil] http://share.cleverdevil.io/2rOD5RBSHz.png
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[cleverdevil] My first "Watching" entry created directly from the webhook.
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[cleverdevil] Started watching it on my phone, and there it was!
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[cleverdevil] Not sure at all about my markup.
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[cleverdevil] https://cleverdevil.io/2017/clue-the-movie#comments
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[cleverdevil] Comments welcome.
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@ChrisAldrich Can't wait to try POSSE from @withknown to Mastodon! #Indieweb https://github.com/danito/KnownMastodon (twitter.com/_/status/852291701414780928)
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Loqi [superfeedr] "Can't wait to try POSSE from @withknown to Mastodon! #Indieweb https://github.com/danito/KnownMastodon" by Chris Aldrich on 2017-04-12 http://stream.boffosocko.com/2017/cant-wait-to-try-posse-from-withknown-to-mastodon-indieweb
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Loqi [superfeedr] "My First Internet Meme! ?" by Chris Aldrich on 2017-04-12 http://boffosocko.com/2017/04/12/my-first-internet-meme/
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[eddie] cleverdevil++ Awesome!!
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tantek chrisaldrich++ nice post!
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tantek re: "So if you were lucky enough to get into Mastodon.social before registration was turned off (maybe they’ll turn it back on one day, or you can get into one of the many other instances), feel free to give me a follow there and enjoy the pineapples." - makes it sound harder to follow from not Mastodon.social
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tantek or are pineapples only a thing on that server?
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GWG Howdy
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[kevinmarks] Well, there was twitter.com/pine_apple123
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[chrisaldrich] I'm not sure how wide spread pineapples are outside of Mastodon. Most of the ones I've seen have been on that instance.
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[chrisaldrich] Reminds me: what ever happened to indieweb /chicken?
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[chrisaldrich] Evening GWG
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tantek what is a pineapple?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "pineapple" yet. Would you like to create it?
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GWG I do not have to recount anything till 2am tonight
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tantek And then there's this phenomenon: https://www.instagram.com/explore/tags/timehopception/ (what happens when people post screenshots of their on this day reminder than that screenshot shows up the next year for on this day)
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tantek what is timehop
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Loqi Timehop is a mobile app that connects to your social silos and personal cell phone data and displays a unified on this day of photos & posts you made on the current day in previous years https://indieweb.org/Timehop
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