#indieweb 2016-11-23

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Loqi [indieweb] "I've been poking around your site, after trying to get my head around webmentions for Grav. We share an interest in baking and podcasts, but" by Jeremy Cherfas on 2016-11-22 https://vaviblog.com/2016/ive-been-poking-around-your-site-after-trying-to-get
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GWG Evening, Campers
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@kevinmarks A face detection api in the browser? Interesting #indieweb applications there: https://paul.kinlan.me/face-detection/ (twitter.com/_/status/801240777393197056)
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Loqi [indieweb] "A face detection api in the browser? Interesting #indieweb applications there: https://paul.kinlan.me/face-detection/" by Kevin Marks on 2016-11-23 http://known.kevinmarks.com/2016/a-face-detection-api-in-the-browser-interesting-indieweb-applications
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ben_thatmustbeme The share button option already makes me so much more likely to reply to things
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TheGillies Only one webmention on http://tyler.cat/post/league-of-extraordinary-websites/ heh not much of a league yet
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Loqi TheGillies: KevinMarks_ left you a message 7 hours, 51 minutes ago: I made an indieweb friendly Hugo template for lifewithalacrity.com - have you done something similar?
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Loqi Ok so I’m making this post to advocate what I’m calling The League of Extraordinary Websites. Essentially what this is, is a pact, where each member of the league tries to be interoperable with every other website in the league. We then post our ...
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TheGillies !tell kevinmarks I hacked one I got off the internet to talk to webmention.io
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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KevinMarks Have a look at what I did with the theme for microformats
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Loqi KevinMarks: TheGillies left you a message 1 hour, 5 minutes ago: I hacked one I got off the internet to talk to webmention.io
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KevinMarks https://github.com/ChristopherA/LifeWithAlacrityBlog/tree/master/blog/themes/indie-tufte
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KevinMarks The partials in Hugo make it a bit of a faff to do
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KevinMarks_ Also, the inheritance model makes it a bit unclear where you should put the site specific stuff rather than the template
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sl007 "Establishing and promoting social businesses using digital technologies in an international context." - A barcamp in Bangladesh and Dortmund : https://jetechao.com/event/1059/yde-camp-2016
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Zegnat Good morning from Nürnberg
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[jeremycherfas] Tell TheGillies I replied from my site https://vaviblog.com/2016/im-still-not-sure-i-understand-the-full-extent-of but for some reason it didn’t get sucked up at http://tyler.cat/post/league-of-extraordinary-websites/
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Loqi [Jeremy Cherfas] I'm still not sure I understand the full extent of interoperability in this context. And I do not have full access to all the bells and whistles that make this site work, or the knowledge to use them if I did have. But the idea sounds like a good one...
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Zegnat [jeremycherfas]: you should put an exclamation mark before tell: !tell
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Zegnat Alright. Productive day. I can now edit posts on my site
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[jeremycherfas] Thanks @zegnat. Slowly learning my way around.
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@nueww In netter Gesellschaft an deiner Website basteln? Das geht. Heute Abend um 6 beim Homebrew Website Club @tollwerk. #indieweb #NUEWW (twitter.com/_/status/801394880274534401)
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petermolnar https://techcrunch.com/2016/11/22/telegram-telegraph/ one more silo
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@thorgnyr Working on #indieweb'ify my online presence. My approach is using Git, Git-ftp and Hugo (static site gen.). Cc. @brennannovak (twitter.com/_/status/801418821303201792)
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ben_thatmustbeme good morning #indieweb
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Zegnat Good morning ben_thatmustbeme
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Zegnat Is Nürnberg the only HWC today?
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Zegnat Does this qualify as Indieweb’ing in 2008? Replying to someone else’s blogpost with a blogpost: http://www.shauninman.com/archive/2008/05/08/iht_reinventing_the_widont
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miklb that's what trackbacks/pingbacks were all about then
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Zegnat I am not even sure if any of them actually ran trackbacks/pingbacks on their sites. I just randomly bumped into this and thought (with its @-marker) it was extremely close to what we are doing.
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miklb well, yeah, but blogging "back then" was often in response to other blog posts and cross linking
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miklb pre Twitter/FB
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miklb Mind you, that post with the @ was probably influenced by the use of @'s in Twitter
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Zegnat Oh yes, very probable, I just like it when I find prior-art to what we are trying to "bring back"
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ben_thatmustbeme Zegnat++ for getting me to fix this https://github.com/dissolve/inkstone/issues/13
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Loqi zegnat has 25 karma in this channel (27 overall)
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tantek good morning #indieweb!
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tantek glad to see Zegnat made it to Nürnberg!
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ben_thatmustbeme good morning tantek
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tantek miklb, Zegnat indeed (re: @) and before Twitter, people were doing it in Flickr and MySpace too (even though it never linked to anything)
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Zegnat Hello tantek :)
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Zegnat Do we store examples of that somewhere on the wiki? Where I could add Shaun’s blogpost?
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Zegnat And yes, made it to Nürnberg. And I have set some goals for this HWC! https://licit.li
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tantek I thought we did
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tantek but not sure
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tantek also not sure what to make this re: HTTPS https://twitter.com/glenngabe/status/801408527759720448
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@glenngabe HTTPS migrations are easy, right? Came across this today. This is how every url resolves on the site. Looks like th… https://twitter.com/i/web/status/801408527759720448 (twitter.com/_/status/801408527759720448)
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Zegnat I guess he means they just swapped "http" for "https" in all their links, without actually configuring certs?
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Zegnat Getting HWC started over here! :) Where are you at, sknebel? ;)
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sknebel sitting at home, looking at your website ;)
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snarfed yay https://woodwind.xyz/ and https://kylewm.com/ are back!
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julianf Hello, IW.
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Zegnat Hi julianf
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Zegnat Have you subscribed to my website yet, sknebel? ;)
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julianf On the train to Homebrew Website Club, Birmingham UK.
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Zegnat Birmingham is on today?
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julianf Yes.
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Zegnat what is next-hwc?
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Loqi https://indieweb.org/next-hwc
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Zegnat Birmingham isn’t on :o
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Zegnat If you can, julianf, please add Birmingham to the page
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julianf https://twitter.com/homebrewbrum
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julianf Added to /next-hwc
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Zegnat Thank you!
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Zegnat Don’t forget to get us a picture, julianf :) I am guessing jkphl is taking one of the group here
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julianf How do I format a reference to myself (I have a user page /User:Julian.foad.me.uk) in {{}} in the RSVP section?
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julianf Just tried 'julianf' and 'julianfoad' and 'Julian.foad.me.uk' but the preview doesn't indicate they work... or doesn't the preview expand template references?
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Zegnat They aren’t generated on the fly, we have all created our own wiki templates
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Zegnat You can copy mine: http://indieweb.org/Template:martijnvdven
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julianf Huh. So as well as an entry in /irc-people and a user page, I need a third thing? :-/
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Zegnat You don’t *need* a wiki template
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Zegnat aaronpk, tantek, would there be a way to auto-generate those people-templates?
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julianf OK, added a template; thanks Zegnat. Used it to add my RSVP.
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Zegnat nice!
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julianf General question/thoughts: Matrix.
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Zegnat julianf++
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Zegnat what is matrix?
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Loqi Matrix is http://matrix.org https://indieweb.org/Matrix
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julianf It looks to me like Matrix is a much better fit for IW principles than most other things (GNU social, Mattermost, ...).
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julianf I wonder, do others agree, and if so should we be trying to support and encourage it? That's how it seems to me.
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sknebel Matrix looks interesting, yes.
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sknebel haven't tried it yet, it's on the long list of things to do ;)
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sknebel I think there is a public freenode bridge, so it should be compatible with this channel from the get-go
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julianf I recently started trying out UBOS (formerly IndieBox). UBOS website has no integration between IRC mailinglists and archiving of content (no IRC logs) and I suggested using something like Mattermost or Matrix for their own site.
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julianf I'm wondering the same about indieweb.org.
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julianf Is the desire to run one's own combination of tools stronger than the drive to use something like Matrix and perhaps encxourage other IW-like projects to use it too and work together to improve its interoperability?
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julianf (Possible other projects that might be friendly to cooperate: UBOS; Matrix itself and some of its client & server projects; some things at Mozilla; Dowse.eu; for a start.)
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julianf I'm feeling like it might be possible to get a bigger "push" behind such a system, if it truly seems to be going in the right direction, by sharing some of the effort of setting up a few instances.
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julianf I'm feeling like it might be possible to get a bigger "push" behind such a system, if it truly seems to be going in the right direction, by sharing some of the effort of setting up a few instances.
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julianf (sorry, dup)
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julianf Like... I'd like to set up my own instance, but haven't much time to dedicate to doing it myself with all the trial-and-error that I know it would require.
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Zegnat How much of Matrix is just communication, versus actual websites though?
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sknebel if I understand it, closest to Matrix is XMPP/Jabber
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sknebel in that there is a federation of servers that users register at and connect to using local clients
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julianf But if someone -- whether individuals or iw.org as a group -- would be setting it up at the same time, and maybe one or two or three or more of us individuals too -- then perhaps that "League of Extraordinary Websites" could be partly kick-started this way.
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Zegnat I wonder if IW is the place to push those protocols, versus HTTP protocols.
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Zegnat But that was a discussion had at IWC Berlin too, IIRC
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Zegnat Wouldn’t the league be there in a “more IW” way if we get more people to start on Known instead of WordPress?
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julianf Matrix, as I understand it, has the comms plus a strong notion of permanent content (chat threads) which can be distributed.
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Zegnat What is permanence?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "permanence" yet. Would you like to create it?
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Zegnat Permanence is the idea of keeping content around even after the originator might no longer be available.
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Loqi ok
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Zegnat Please edit that page, permanence is always an interesting item.
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tantek well we have /longevity
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julianf +1 for advocating Known over WP, yes, too, but that's not an IRC/mailinglist/forum system.
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tantek permanence << [[longevity]]
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Loqi There was an error: Array
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tantek gives Loqi an error: Array
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Loqi hearts the error: Array
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tantek apparently
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tantek julianf - I don't understand your question about Matrix and indieweb. What about Matrix is "web"?
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julianf What I'm observing is that while there are many silo-like open-source chat/communication systems (Mattermost, GNU-social, ...) only a very few seem to take the approach of designing a federation model and APIs. Tent was one, but seems to be falling behind, last time I looked.
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julianf tantek: Do you mean how is it "web" as in web-of-hyperlinks?
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sknebel_matrix_t hi via matrix bridge :)
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Zegnat tantek, didn’t we have a text on the wiki somewhere on why the bar is high for joining the indieweb? (E.g. owning a domain etc.)
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sknebel_matrix_t and apparently some people already use #indieweb via matrix, which I never even noticed before
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Zegnat I seem to recall reading it at one of the last IWCs, but I cant find it anymore.
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sknebel_matrix_t Zegnat: http://indieweb.org/2016/Berlin/onboarding ?
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Zegnat No, sknebel, I recall reading a page somewhere with the “reason” for having these hurdles.
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aaronpk What is IndieWeb?
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Loqi The IndieWeb is about owning your domain and using it as your primary identity, to publish on your own site (optionally syndicate elsewhere), and ownyourdata https://indieweb.org/IndieWeb
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julianf On my personal web site I want to be able to set up, easily, things like: an IRC-like system, especially one for private use by friends and family, privately archived and not publically accessible. Similarly for other styles of communication. Yet able to join in with public comms when wanted.
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sknebel_matrix_t julianf: I'm not sure you need a large push to get started on Matrix -> at least initially you can use "public" servers and interfaces like I'm doing right now -> no need to set anything up
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aaronpk Theres certainly overlap in the concepts of self hosting tools, but Matrix isn't really "webby" so it's kind of a separate thing than IndieWeb. Certainly there's a lot of good things about Matrix especially compared to other chat systems. But I'm not aware of anyone using Matrix to host their website for example
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Zegnat aaronpk putting my thoughts down in words better than I was doing
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julianf sknebel_matrix_t: By "push" I mean, if you agree it's doing good work in making a truly decentralized "host-your-own-part-if-you-wish" work, then let's use it here (and yes then I'll try to do my part and use it personally) and help others to use it, and then we'll be able to help get relevant IW standards integrated in it where appropriate etc.
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julianf I totally don't think it's aimed at hosting a "web site", only at hosting the chatty parts of one's own web presence (~"site").
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aaronpk julianf: this chat room is available via a web interface on indieweb.org, IRC on Freenode, and Slack. It's also possible to join via Matrix as sknebel_matrix_t demonstrated, so I think that's about all one can hope for in that regard!
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julianf (I appreciate all your thoughts, BTW.)
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julianf aaronpk: It's great that this chat room is so widely available. It's high time I found out what system it's running, so I can compare.
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julianf (Apologies if it seems rude not to have found out yet._
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julianf )
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julianf (Have to go offline for half hour.)
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julianf (At station.)
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aaronpk The website and Slack bridge is done with a home-grown tool available here https://github.com/indieweb/chat.indieweb.org https://github.com/aaronpk/Slack-IRC-Gateway
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tantek julianf, chat != web
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tantek that's the larger point here
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tantek chat is ephemeral, the web persists because things (statements, posts, etc.) have HTTP URLs that people can share to refer to them
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tantek whereas chat systems in general do not care about such (persistent) references
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tantek ironically, I feel like we have had this discussion a few times, but have no idea where it was (is?) captured
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Zegnat snarfed, if you are reading, someone here wonders how long it will take for the first flickr like to get through
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tantek though the last time I remember an indepth discussion of this was arguing with the XMPP advocates (and projects that use it) that XMPP was a non-starter in terms of a federated social *web* (2010 FSWS discussions)
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snarfed snarfed: you're talking about bridgy?
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snarfed tell them to click the "Poll now" button on their user page :P
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tantek and that was before Google dropped XMPP support
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Zegnat yes
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Zegnat I’ll tell them
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Zegnat snarfed: they are saying poll now works, but that automatic doesn’t always seem to work. But that might just be a feeling they are having.
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snarfed automatic isn't immediate, it's periodic, since it polls
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Zegnat snarfed: when a webmention fails, can we see why?
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snarfed https://brid.gy/about#missing
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snarfed Zegnat: yes, click the "X minutes ago" link for raw logs
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Zegnat thanks again! Hahaha, I do not actually use bridgy myself so I am happy to relay the questions ;)
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Loqi ahaha
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snarfed tell them to get on irc! :P
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@jkphl Homebrewing our websites w/ @egoexpress @sfeldeu @iwontsignuphere and special guest @martijnvdven today! #indieweb https://twitter.com/jkphl/status/801488214892679168/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/801488214892679168)
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tantek Zegnat, so you're like a bridge for bridgy is what you're saying
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tantek photo!
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Zegnat I am a flesh-IRC-bridge
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tantek Zegnat, tell jkphl to get on IRC more often!
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tantek and everyone else in Nürnberg :P
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aaronpk or slack ;-)
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tantek I mean, at least as much as they're on Twitter :P :P
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tantek per that previous conversation we had
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bjoern tantek: jkphl looks a bit annoyed right now :)
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tantek LOL
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tantek Zegnat, ask everyone in the room at HWC Nürnberg when they will post notes/tweets on their own site before/instead of Twitter (by end of year?)
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tantek Anyone want to commit to doing that 100% starting 2017-01-01?
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tantek come on now!
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tantek (of those that use Twitter obv)
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jkphl hello from hwc nuremberg, hi tantek! ;)
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tantek jkphl++ :D
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Loqi jkphl has 18 karma
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bjoern hey, I'm already using my own Known site and cross-post to Twitter :)
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tantek bjoern++
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tantek bjoern - 100%? or only sometimes?
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tantek do you still natively post to Twitter only ever?
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tantek bjoren, if you're doing it 100%, add yourself to https://indieweb.org/ownyourdata#IndieWeb_Examples :)
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bjoern tantek: 100% for my own posts and replies. For likes/retweets i use the native twitter functions.
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tantek bjoern - that's ok to distinguish like that - see my entry for example
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tantek I started with notes, then replies a few years later, then favorites a few years after that
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jkphl tantek: i'm afraid i've still got a looooong way to go until i'm really ready for posting status messages to my own site. but i'll do my best to start sometime during 2017!
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tantek bjoern, feel free to copy paste from https://indieweb.org/ownyourdata#Tantek
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tantek great that sounds like a 2017 commitment!
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tantek what are 2017-01-01-commitments?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "2017-01-01-commitments" yet. Would you like to create it?
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tantek 2017-01-01-commitments are implementation and launch commitments publicly made by the IndieWeb community to ship on their personal sites by 2017-01-01 00:00 local time
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Loqi ok
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bjoern tantek: thanks, will do
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jkphl you've got my word, tantek! ;)
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tantek what is 2017-01-01
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "2017-01-01" yet. Would you like to create it?
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tantek 2017-01-01 is /2017-01-01-commitments
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Loqi ok
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aaronpk hmm what should mine be
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Zegnat I am also wondering about mine...
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aaronpk reviews itches
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aaronpk checkins would be a huge one
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tantek OMS ok I have to writeup that brainstorm on location of vs at then
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tantek and p-checkin
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tantek jkphl++ great! it's been recorded: https://indieweb.org/2017-01-01-commitments#Joschi_Kuphal :D
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tantek ok who is next?
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tantek jkphl: ask around the room! what are people's indieweb commitments to launch on their site 2017-01-01?
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tantek see https://indieweb.org/2016-01-01-commitments and https://indieweb.org/2015-01-01-commitments for some ideas of what people did in previous years
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Zegnat I’ll see if there are any commitments I can copy from someone
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[sebsel] Oh, I’m not in Nurnberg, but I will make that commitment.
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tantek sebsel - which commitment? I think you need to state it in full here in IRC for yourself just to be sure :)
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[sebsel] let me formulate then
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ben_thatmustbeme well i've started to move all my code under its new names
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ben_thatmustbeme http://inklings.io/
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sknebel inklings, that's clever :)
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ben_thatmustbeme learned to use inkscape to make my own icons too
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ben_thatmustbeme thanks sknebel
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Zegnat needs to learn to use inkscape for icons
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ben_thatmustbeme you can lear a lot on youtube for it
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Zegnat I now have permalinks, yeey, haha
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Loqi Zegnat: lol
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sknebel Zegnat: now my feedreader (inoreader via https://waterpigs.co.uk/services/microformats-to-atom/ ) recognizes that there are distinct posts :)
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sknebel Zegnat++
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Loqi zegnat has 26 karma in this channel (28 overall)
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tantek what is inoreader
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "inoreader" yet. Would you like to create it?
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Zegnat sknebel, I wonder if it needed permalinks for that, or just uids
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[sebsel] tantek, I got my commitment, posted :) https://seblog.nl/2016/11/23/2/my-indieweb-commitment
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[sebsel] Via quill btw.
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tantek sebsel++ AWESOME!
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[sebsel] Especially the second point, re-importing my tweets with ‘u-syndication’-links on them, and the 2016-tweets for the first time… that one I keep postponing. But not this year!
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[sebsel] :D
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tantek yes that would be a huge win as well! also a good way to show others how to do it
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tantek sebsel, add yourself after Joschi here: https://indieweb.org/2017-01-01-commitments#Commitments
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Zegnat [sebsel], you should add yourself to /silo-quits, since you have left facebook back in 2014!
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tantek definitely
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tantek had to beat Loqi to the punch
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tantek gives Loqi a race to the punch
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Loqi enjoys the race to the punch
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Zegnat sknebel, could you see if inoreader still understands https://licit.li ? I took out u-url and added a static u-uid. But I am guessing that is a no-go.
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sknebel let me see if I can convince it to refetch
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sknebel Zegnat no that doesn'T work
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sknebel all have <id>http://licit.li</id> in the atom-version
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Zegnat That sounds wrong. I would have thought it to pick-up on p-uid
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sknebel seems like that's something the converter can't deal with
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Zegnat Granary does not seem to pick up on p-uid either
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Zegnat Maybe I am upsetting parsers again by switching pre-fixes all mf2 style
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Zegnat I am tempted to leave it like this but lets just put it back to working state
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Zegnat You can subscribe again, hehe
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Zegnat Now HWC is coming to an end and I am heading home with someone who has offered me a bed :)
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Zegnat Until later!
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tantek Zegnat - any goofie animated gif from HWC Nürnberg?
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Zegnat still needs editing
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Zegnat jules says hi
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tantek yay! :D say hello from me too :)
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Loqi ?
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tantek and Loqi ^^^
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@homebrewbrum #indieweb marcjenkins: Hi, my site's built on WordPress, it's been Jekyll/Kirby and other things but went back to WordPress afterwards (twitter.com/_/status/801503285169582080)
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@homebrewbrum #indieweb marcjenkins: I'm new to the Indieweb but owning my own content is what brought me to it, preserving my own content (twitter.com/_/status/801503433228427264)
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@homebrewbrum #indieweb genzographics: My site's built with WordPress, using a default theme, it's a holding page for now (twitter.com/_/status/801503990924058624)
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[sebsel] It feels strange to add myself to a list where Neil Geiman is on, but hey… I added myself to /silo-quits :)
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[sebsel] I hope I can find an old blogpost in my archives to repost. But I believe I went silently.
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[sebsel] Lot of people leave loud and then re-enter a few weeks after.
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snarfed Zegnat: you want u-uid, not p-uid. and granary definitely supports it. http://microformats.org/wiki/h-entry#Core_Properties
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Loqi [Tantek Çelik] h-entry is a simple, open format for episodic or datestamped content on the web. h-entry is often used with content intended to be syndicated, e.g. blog posts. h-entry is one of several open microformat standards suitable for embedding data in HTML/H...
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tantek sebsel, you could post about it as an anniversary if you know the exact date. e.g. (2 years since I left FB)
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@homebrewbrum #indieweb @julianfoad: I set up WordPress to try it out this year. I want to own my own content and want it to be interoperable with others (twitter.com/_/status/801505624601362432)
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[sebsel] Yeah, I just found the mail they send you after you deactivate. It was 09-09. A good day to do something like that. But then I missed it for this year!
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@homebrewbrum #indieweb @elaptics: My site's built on Foxpro, turned up to HBB to have accountability to others for adding content to my own site (twitter.com/_/status/801505994689937416)
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[sebsel] But i’ll post a memo to myself for next september.
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@homebrewbrum #indieweb @_joshhillier: My website is built on nothing. I don't post much. (analogy about the carpenter's kids having rubbish shoes) (twitter.com/_/status/801506387956269063)
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@homebrewbrum #indieweb @_joshhillier: I'm going to rebuild it by Christmas (didn't specify which Christmas) (twitter.com/_/status/801506569955508226)
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@homebrewbrum #indieweb @state_media: I have a website floating around somewhere, I'm here for the beer (turned up to wrong homebrew meetup) (twitter.com/_/status/801507345759141888)
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@homebrewbrum #indieweb @sil: I like the idea behind this IndieWeb thing. (twitter.com/_/status/801507443666780160)
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@homebrewbrum #indieweb @sil: My site's got webmentions on it because I'm ahead of the curve (twitter.com/_/status/801507528257503234)
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@homebrewbrum #indieweb @rythie: I use Octopress for my blog and I've recently added HTTPS to it. I'm working on adding stats to it (twitter.com/_/status/801508011533598726)
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@homebrewbrum #indieweb @rythie: and making it look like a web app. (twitter.com/_/status/801508069897338891)
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@homebrewbrum #indieweb @paul_tibbetts: My website is paultibbetts.uk, it's on WordPress but I think I've convinced myself I need to build my own thing (twitter.com/_/status/801509415811710976)
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@homebrewbrum #indieweb @sil: You can use https://brid.gy/ to looki for mentions of your site on Facebook/Twitter so you can get comments from them (twitter.com/_/status/801511347024494597)
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@homebrewbrum #indieweb @sil: I like how there's lots of interconnected things that work together to do this stuff (twitter.com/_/status/801512494430830593)
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@homebrewbrum #indieweb @sil: My site's built with Pelican (flat file) but I use a thing on Heroku to fetch my webmentions (twitter.com/_/status/801512699121303552)
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miklb would be curious how marcjenkins went from static to WP. Did he find an importer?
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@homebrewbrum #indieweb @sil: It's a bit like a rube goldberg machine, but I didn't have to write the extra complicated stuff (twitter.com/_/status/801512829484404736)
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masoud Hi there. First time joining here. https://masoud.abkenar.net/ I just put rel=me links in my website. Do you think this is a proper patch to indiwebify this Pelican theme?
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masoud https://github.com/porterjamesj/crowsfoot/pull/4/commits/d052b4223a5151371a5150bcded49964c459a864
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masoud Or it can be enhaced? I read somewhere about h-cards. Not sure how to use it and how it could help.
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KartikPrabhu masoud: if you want them in the head, you might want to use <link> instead of <a>
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KartikPrabhu also welcome
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addal I'm not sure why you hid them, the idea is the embed microformats in content that is already on the page
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addal It looks like the theme has icons for social media, those can be rel=me links :)
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masoud @KartikPrabhu Oh I see! I will fix that. Thank you!
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KartikPrabhu masoud: also Addal is right, if there are already "social media" links in the actual content, you could add rel-me to them directly instead of duplicating it in the head
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masoud @addal I have removed the social media links from my own page. That's why.
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masoud And I have blogs in subfolders on which I'd like to use webmentions and stuff.
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KevinMarks Interesting update on matrix encryption http://www.geektime.com/2016/11/22/unifying-chat-platform-matrix-org-launches-end-to-end-encryption-beta-securing-conversations-on-multiple-channels/
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masoud which brings me to another question: is it enough to have rel=me links on the home page, and have blogs in subfolders without rel=me links? In this case, https://masoud.abkenar.net/blog/fa/
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gRegorLove Hi masoud. rel-me links on the homepage only should be fine. You can try signing in to the wiki using your domain now, if you haven't already
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gRegorLove https://indieweb.org/Special:UserLogin
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gRegorLove What is Pelican?
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Loqi Pelican is a Python-based static site generator https://indieweb.org/Pelican
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gRegorLove masoud: There's some examples on that page ^ including a modified theme with h-card
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masoud Wow guys. Thank you! I'll look into the things you suggested.
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@homebrewbrum Nice turn out tonight :) #indieweb #homebrew https://twitter.com/homebrewbrum/status/801524756403130368/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/801524756403130368)
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tantek what is homebrewbrum?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "homebrewbrum" yet. Would you like to create it?
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tantek oh that's Birmingham!!!
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tantek homebrewbrum is the Birmingham England chapter of the [[Homebrew Website Club]] and has been meeting since ~2016-09. https://homebrewbrum.co.uk/
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Loqi ok
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tantek gRegorLove: could you grab that photo ^^^ and add it to https://indieweb.org/events/2016-11-23-homebrew-website-club ?
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tantek !tell tantek add https://twitter.com/homebrewbrum/status/801524756403130368/photo/1 to http://tantek.com/2016/324/b1/happy-birthday-homebrew-website-club - we have a photo now!
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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@homebrewbrum Nice turn out tonight :) #indieweb #homebrew https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cx-WguPWQAAMkwH.jpg (twitter.com/_/status/801524756403130368)
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@homebrewbrum #indieweb @sil: Make Stuart Emporer! (twitter.com/_/status/801530450585985025)
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@homebrewbrum #indieweb @sil: If you use Gmail you can use "takeout" to keep a copy of all your emails kept in Gmail. It's like a safety net. (twitter.com/_/status/801536179355209728)
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aaronpk Argh is silo.pub still down or is something wrong on my end now?
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@opensourceway IndieWeb: Make your social media posts open first https://opensource.com/life/16/11/indieweb?sc_cid=701600000011jJVAAY (twitter.com/_/status/801561469716484096)
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@Pyro46 opensourceway: IndieWeb: Make your social media posts open first https://opensource.com/life/16/11/indieweb?sc_cid=701600000011jJVAAY (twitter.com/_/status/801562089051586560)
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@elpep Je milite. :-) #indieweb https://twitter.com/opensourceway/status/801561469716484096 (twitter.com/_/status/801562656981340166)
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