#indiewebcamp 2016-06-15

2016-06-15 UTC
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miklb good evening IWC
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GWG Hi, miklb
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miklb how goes the WP work? I need to update my install with the latest and check out the progress. have been tweaking my Jekyll site lately, but have gotten most of what I want done for now
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GWG miklb: Incremental
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GWG miklb: Lots of bug fixes
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miklb that's good, clears path for new features
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GWG Lots of features planned.
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KevinMarks https://twitter.com/djolder/status/742786270166945792?s=09
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@djolder MySpace emailing people about a data breach like they exist anymore. DID THEY USE A OUIJA BOARD TO HACK YOU?? You gone! (twitter.com/_/status/742786270166945792)
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KevinMarks After site deaths, site zombies
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KartikPrabhu ghost in the site
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@kevinmarks Years after the http://indiewebcamp.com/site-deaths the zombie accounts rise. https://twitter.com/djolder/status/742786270166945792 (twitter.com/_/status/742911807614918657)
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gRegorLove Hahah https://twitter.com/myspacetom/status/737798288112394240
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@myspacetom Finally peeps will stop DMing me asking for their password! https://twitter.com/engadget/status/737656307877093376 (twitter.com/_/status/737798288112394240)
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KevinMarks Ouch https://twitter.com/caulkthewagon/status/742905346503680000?s=09
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@caulkthewagon Wow Instagram, thanks for suggesting I follow my dead friend whose last post was a drunk/high video from the night she died, love 2 remember (twitter.com/_/status/742905346503680000)
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[snarfed] just discovered this: http://streams.incubator.apache.org/
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[snarfed] looks like a very heavily architected Java version of granary
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emmak finally figured out why my bridgy webmentions have been randomly failing
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emmak bridgy includes a reply-to for original plus POSSE'd copy, but i'm only parsing one reply-to
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emmak so if the first one happens to be the original article, it works, otherwise the webmention is rejected
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aaronpk Arrays ftw
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emmak the ironic thing is i used to support arrays, then ripped them out because i didn't think there were use cases for it
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[snarfed] nice sleuthing!
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emmak so now i'm wondering what else has use cases for arrays that i didn't expect
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gRegorLove woot! http://gregorlove.com/2016/06/behold-my-first-post-using/
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Loqi yay!
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kylewm gregorlove++
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Loqi gregorlove has 70 karma
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Loqi [indieweb] "Indieweb Post Kinds" by David Shanske https://wordpress.org/plugins/indieweb-post-kinds/#post-77573
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[kevinmarks] How does apache streams relate to shindig?
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[snarfed] kevinmarks: not sure? looks separate
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@hansdezwart @alper Fair point (I have the same problem with https://books.hansdezwart.nl/). We need more smart tech around things like http://webmention.net/draft/ (twitter.com/_/status/743000335728381952)
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Kongaloosh silly question: does ownyourgram still have that dashboard thing that shows your last post?
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Kongaloosh and debug-like stuff
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@tommorris @Charlotteis https://indiewebcamp.com/events/2016-06-15-homebrew-website-club - Homebrew Website Club tonight at 6pm? (twitter.com/_/status/743011888766844928)
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@DonaldBMcIntosh #indieweb #apachecamel Just added tweet pull agents to triki http://www.donaldmcintosh.net/resource/triki-twitter at my personal web "hub". My content AND stuff I like. (twitter.com/_/status/743020951219097600)
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@barryf I'm going to this evening's popup Homebrew Website Club in London: https://indiewebcamp.com/events/2016-06-15-homebrew-website-club (twitter.com/_/status/743021603642957824)
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GWG Morning
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pfefferle good morning GWG
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GWG Good morning, pfefferle. What is new?
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Loqi Welcome to news about the IndieWeb where recent notable articles about the IndieWeb are cited and linked to keep you up to date https://indiewebcamp.com/new
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pfefferle GWG not much... still a lot to do and an open merge request from a man called dshanske ;)
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GWG pfefferle: Annoying, isn't he?
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pfefferle GWG not really... I like most of his ideas, but he is really really bad with indents! ;)
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GWG I say we lock him up for his crimes against proper formatting.
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pfefferle GWG I think I will be able to merge your request later today
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pfefferle GWG :)
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GWG pfefferle: I was worried about this one, because it was the most radical of the ones so far...trying to rearrange the target before the source. I tried to address that by starting the assembly of the comment array earlier.
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pfefferle GWG thats why it took some time for me, to think about it, but I like the idea of moving the main parsing stuff to the default content handler... so it is easier to disable a lot of default stuff with plugins like semantic linkbacks...
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pfefferle GWG I am still not sure about the vouch stuff...
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pfefferle GWG because it is not really part of the spec
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GWG pfefferle: I don't want to support Vouch in the plugin. I want to support passing the vouch parameter.
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GWG So it could be used by a plugin that extends functionality.
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GWG The alternative is to make it clear how to pass additional parameters through
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GWG My original thought was a filter.
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GWG pfefferle: Also, if you have a moment, do you have any thoughts to add to the Spam and Moderation brainstorm? https://github.com/pfefferle/wordpress-webmention/issues/87
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@Inkwater_Masha 10 Tips for Pricing Your Book Profitably #bookmarketing #indieauth #selfpub http://www.selfpublishedauthor.com/content/ten-tips-pricing-your-book-profitably?platform=hootsuite (twitter.com/_/status/743066927875117056)
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Loqi [indieweb] "Retweeted this tweet: ChrisAldrich on Twitter: “The end of ThinkUp announced by @anildash https://t.co/QCxMUP0TK9 #indieweb #sitedeath”" by Scott Kingery http://techlifeweb.com/14306-2/
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@jgmac1106 @ChrisAldrich @anildash I was just reflecting on how much fun @thinkup has been. #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/743083495220740096)
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aaronpk Kongaloosh: I have to redo the ownyourgram dashboard, I dropped it for now when I went and switched ownyourgram to scraping instead of using the API
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@kevinmarks #DWebSummit #indieweb @Paul_Kinlan uses @feross's webtorrents in a progressive web app for serverless voice memos https://paul.kinlan.me/serverless-sync-in-web-apps/ (twitter.com/_/status/743098653644980224)
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@kevinmarks So thanks to @Paul_Kinlan and @feross we have offline podcasting #indieweb #DWebSummit https://bt-voice-memos.appspot.com/share?seeds=magnet%3A%3Fxt%3Durn%3Abtih%3A5fec23b4e7c54faf4d1737893d282da1855ddb85%26dn%3DOffline%2Bpodcasting%253F%2B.webm%26tr%3Dudp%253A%252F%252Fexodus.desync.com%253A6969%26tr%3Dudp%253A%252F%252Ftracker.coppersurfer.tk%253A6969%26tr%3Dudp%253A%252F%252Ftracker.internetwarriors.net%253A1337%26tr%3Dudp%253A%252F%252Ftracker.leechers-paradise.org%253A6969%26tr%3Dudp%253A%252F%252Ftracker.openbittorrent.com%253A80%26tr%3Dwss%253A%252F%252Ftracker.btorrent.xyz%26tr%3Dwss%253A%252F%252Ftracker.fastcast.nz%26tr%3Dwss%253A%252F%252Ftracker.openwebtorrent.com%26tr%3Dwss%253A%252F%252Ftracker.webtorrent.io (twitter.com/_/status/743099361408622592)
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Loqi [indieweb] "Serverless Data Sync in Web Apps with Bit Torrent - Tales of a Developer Advocate" https://paul.kinlan.me/serverless-sync-in-web-apps/
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petermolnar I'm having trouble discovering the webmention endpoint on https://webmention.rocks/delete/1
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Loqi petermolnar: [chrisaldrich] left you a message 23 hours, 18 minutes ago: When you have a moment, could you help me pile-on to this microformats2 issue on the WordPress TwentySixteen Theme? https://github.com/WordPress/twentysixteen/issues/470#issuecomment-225282967 Apparently there's a ways to go toward educating people about semantic markup... http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2016-06-14/line/1465922852597
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Loqi [Webmention Rocks!] Delete Test #1
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petermolnar what should I be looking for?
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aaronpk it's a <link> tag in the body
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petermolnar which I should be ready to detect...
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petermolnar interesting
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aaronpk which i now realize is probably not a good idea since <link> is only supposed to be in <head>
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aaronpk i'll change that, one sec
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aaronpk petermolnar: try now
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petermolnar that worked
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aaronpk great
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petermolnar my delete mentions are working, great
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aaronpk \o/
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@t Heading out to ProvenDough for Homebrew Website Club London meetup, ETA ~18:20. #MozLondon https://indiewebcamp.com/events/2016-06-29-homebrew-website-club (ttk.me t4hn2) (twitter.com/_/status/743125652891537408)
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Loqi [indieweb] "Are you familiar with the discussions happening around IndieWeb (http://indiewebcamp.com/)" by John Light https://medium.com/@lightcoin/are-you-familiar-with-the-discussions-happening-around-indieweb-http-indiewebcamp-com-db781fcc02d6?source=rss-------1
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Loqi [indieweb] "Are you familiar with the discussions happening around IndieWeb (http://indiewebcamp.com/)" by John Light https://medium.com/@lightcoin/are-you-familiar-with-the-discussions-happening-around-indieweb-http-indiewebcamp-com-db781fcc02d6?source=rss------blockchain-5
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@yopeio Are you familiar with the discussions happening around IndieWeb (http://indiewebcamp.com/) https://medium.com/@lightcoin/are-you-familiar-with-the-discussions-happening-around-indieweb-http-indiewebcamp-com-db781fcc02d6?source=rss------blockchain-5 #blockchain #medium #bi… (twitter.com/_/status/743136920415379457)
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tantek hello from HWC London!
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gRegorLove o/ tantek
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tantek Barry is looking at implementing more Micropub (delete undelete update)
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tantek and asking me about my publishing process. may have to do a demo
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@kevinmarks @Paul_Kinlan @feross seems like you could combine it with @dissolve333's mobilepub https://github.com/dissolve/mobilepub #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/743144901290790914)
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tantek noting the problem of what happens when you POSSE to twitter a note with a mistaken URL, and then fix it only like an hour later on your own site, what do you do with the tweet?
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tantek e.g. this Tweet has the wrong URL (links to the next meeting in 2 weeks instead of today) https://twitter.com/t/status/743125652891537408
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@t Heading out to ProvenDough for Homebrew Website Club London meetup, ETA ~18:20. #MozLondon https://indiewebcamp.com/events/2016-06-29-homebrew-website-club (ttk.me t4hn2) (twitter.com/_/status/743125652891537408)
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gRegorLove I usually delete both in that instance and re-publish
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GWG Afternoon
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tantek what is dropbox?
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Loqi Dropbox is a file hosting web service https://indiewebcamp.com/Dropbox
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GWG !tell petermolnar Would you consider rewriting your webmention plugin as an alternative request handler for the older plugin?
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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@t Homebrew Website Club London popup! #IndieWeb #HWC #HWC_LDN #London #nofilter (http://tantek.com/2016/167/t4/homebrew-website-club-london-popup) https://twitter.com/t/status/743158907892174848/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/743158907892174848)
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Loqi [indieweb] "Homebrew Website Club London popup! #IndieWeb #HWC #HWC_LDN #London #nofilter" http://tantek.com/2016/167/t4/homebrew-website-club-london-popup
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tantek just demonstrated my full photo posting flow
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tantek including four person-tags, and POSSEing them to Facebook & Flickr
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tantek talking about how to show home page /notifications
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tantek ben_thatmustbeme: you have a notifications stream right?
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tantek hmm https://ben.thatmustbe.me/notifications looks empty
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ben_thatmustbeme https://ben.thatmustbe.me/activity
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ben_thatmustbeme huh, ever since i replaced likes with a reacji heart, that seems to be a bit of an issue
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ben_thatmustbeme it needs work, i haven't messed with that in some time
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jeena.net uploaded /Special:Log/upload "uploaded "[[File:got-hwc-20160615 184039.jpg]]""
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tantek ben_thatmustbeme: do you remember when you launched your notifications page?
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tantek.com edited /notification (+242) "IndieWeb Examples / Ben Roberts, precise since date unknown" (view diff)
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tantek aaronpk: do you have a notifications page as well?
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aaronpk Not anymore
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jeena.net edited /Special:Log/upload () "uploaded a new version of "[[File:got-hwc-20160615 184039.jpg]]": Reverted to version as of 19:33, 15 June 2016" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /events/2016-06-15-homebrew-website-club (+275) "London Photo!" (view diff)
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tantek ok Portland, SF, Bellingham, see if you can upload better photos that Göteborg and London :D https://indiewebcamp.com/events/2016-06-15-homebrew-website-club#Photos
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ben_thatmustbeme tantek: the nice thing of having all my code in github... its easy for me to figure that out
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ben_thatmustbeme :P
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tantek.com edited /MediaWiki:Sidebar (+104) "better late than never" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /MediaWiki:Sidebar (-8) "next iwc nyc!" (view diff)
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tantek keeps updating event things
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Loqi [indieweb] "miklb pushed to jekyll at miklb/miklb.github.com" by miklb https://github.com/miklb/miklb.github.com/compare/39ba7cbeca...ae58e2ea00
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@miklb Catching up on my plans for the Jekyll IndieWeb theme and project I started. (https://miklb.com/plans-for-jekyll-indieweb-project) (twitter.com/_/status/743172202195881985)
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tantek hey gRegorLove do you have a co-organizer for Bellingham
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gRegorLove Nope
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gRegorLove And I expect it will just be me tonight.
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gRegorLove But gotta start somewhere.
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tantek yes! take a selfie
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@calum_ryan Homebrew Website Club comes to London! https://calumryan.com/blog/homebrew-web-london/ #IndieWeb #HWC #HWC_LDN (twitter.com/_/status/743172618702983168)
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gRegorLove When fall classes start up again, will hopefully draw some people from WWU ACM club
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gRegorLove Will do
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gRegorLove actually feels less awkward taking a selfie than a group photo with first-timers
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tantek https://indiewebcamp.com/Homebrew_Website_Club#Getting_Started_or_Restarting <-- time to add London tommorris, calumryan
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tantek calumryan: ^^^
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tommorris calumryan, tantek: I'll be fashionably late to the next one. ;-)
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Loqi tommorris: tantek left you a message 1 day, 4 hours ago: Are you able to post /event posts on your site? Perhaps post an indie event for HWC London popup and maybe even a FB POSSE copy? https://indiewebcamp.com/events/2016-06-15-homebrew-website-club#London-popup http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2016-06-14/line/1465919380356
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calumryan look forward the next HWC London, will try and get some more to come along, thinking the Front-end London community
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tommorris possible groups we could promote HWC London to: Front-End London, Web Standards meetup, London Ruby User Group etc.
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davidpeach hi all
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gRegorLove Hiya davidpeach
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@adammathebooks Publish On Your Own Site But Copy/Paste Elsewhere Because The IndieWeb Spent 10 years read an article in Yahoo Weather. (twitter.com/_/status/743206286540476416)
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aaronpk lol!
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[shaners] That tweet sounds like a markov chain bot
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miklb I think the ebooks is a dead give away
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[shaners] oh yeah. I didn’t even notice the user name. Duh.
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rMdes g nite all
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[kylewm] the original was https://twitter.com/adammathes/status/583733607140757505
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@adammathes Publish On Your Own Site But Copy/Paste Elsewhere Because The IndieWeb Spent 10 Years Arguing About XML While Social Networks Happened (twitter.com/_/status/583733607140757505)
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[kylewm] I still think “markov chain bot” is remarkably charitable for a thing that just sticks two halves of two tweets together
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aaronpk lol that tweet is not an inaccurate summary of the atom/rss wars
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tantek hah I remember that tweet
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tantek !tell barryf,calumryan,tommorris,adactio,petermolnar forgot to mention at HWC London - MozFest is coming up (once again in Ravensbourne), submit session/speaking proposals: https://mozillafestival.org/proposals ASAP!
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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tantek is going to try to stay up for HWC SF/PDX
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davidpeach who'd have thought refactoring a little blog would be such a mission
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colintedford o/
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Loqi [indieweb] "Why I support Silex" by Pierre Ozoux https://blog.indie.host/2016/why-i-support-silex
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