#indiewebcamp 2016-03-02

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tantek the problem of a results / archive page showing up as a single h-entry to Loqi's summary algorithm
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tantek e.g. http://www.rmendes.net/tag/indieweb
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Loqi [Rick Mendes] Happy to enjoy @letsencrypt TLS certificates on my blog/site #indieweb - the secure web just got easier to put in practice !
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aaronpk oh yeah
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tantek giving you another concrete real world example
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tantek how should a tag results page be marked up?
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aaronpk i previously gave my tag pages a title: http://2015.aaronparecki.com/tag/indieweb
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Loqi [Aaron Parecki] Setting up HTTPS with Letsencrypt.org
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tantek I suppose h-feed could work to start with
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aaronpk wow why that one Loqi
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Loqi :)
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tantek hehe
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snarfed re adactio's spam technique...definitely novel, but may not be working after all
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KartikPrabhu i have h-feed on tag pages
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snarfed https://huffduffer.com/ has been down for much of the day :/
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tantek the spammers turned up the heat on him?
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snarfed seems likely given the timing
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kylewm are spammers that capable?
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tantek yes
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singpolyma kylewm: depends on their budget ;)
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tantek true
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kylewm I'd wager he was fiddling with the code yesterday and broke something, more than disgruntled spammer retribution
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kylewm :)
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kylewm tantek: re: no indie-event yet for the next HWC, manual has started hurting. i was in a hurry to create the event when i saw andi's comment but didn't go through the whole laborious process of interlinking all the pages and stuff
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tantek kylewm: no problem - totally understand
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aaronpk is creeping up on the number of instance hours XRay has been running. I hope it stays under 28 (the free tier)
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snarfed aaronpk welcome to our world
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aaronpk how much is bridgy using?
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snarfed it ranges, but it's averaged ~48 (ie two instances) for a long time
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snarfed skim https://github.com/snarfed/bridgy/issues/578 for lots of gory details and graphs
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aaronpk fun
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snarfed tl;dr, make sure threadsafe: yes is in your app.yaml (assuming that applies to php)
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snarfed so that you serve requests concurrently
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aaronpk it depends on how they have it set up i think
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aaronpk oh jeez i'm getting emoji errors on webmention.io again. I thought I fixed that.
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aaronpk oh I see... I "fixed" it by making that column a BLOB column instead of TEXT
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aaronpk (added a column last night, and it was text)
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gRegorLove Been looking at reserving meeting spaces at some local coffee shops to start an HWC, but apparently Wednesday nights 6:30 to 7:30 is a really popular time. No luck so far.
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[kevinmarks] BLOB is MySQL for "fuck off and store the bytes I send you"?
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aaronpk yep
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[kevinmarks] Technorati flashbacks. I was storing utf8 in text fields when MySQL didn't have an opinion on encoding, then suddenly it did and everything went to hell
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aaronpk heh
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[kevinmarks] Then PHP started having an opinion too
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aaronpk I really don't know what the problem is right now. The database is updated to the latest mysql that has utf8-mb4 support, so it should be working
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aaronpk i think it might be something on the Ruby side
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aaronpk especially cause i have some PHP code storing emoji just fine in the same DB server
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[kevinmarks] That was Technorati too. I got python and PHP agreeing on how utf8 worked, but then Java and Perl had their own opinions
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gRegorLove character encoding is hard
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gRegorLove let's go shopping
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@malcolmblaney @indiewebcamp are you back feeding your likes and tweets? #ownyourdata ;-) (twitter.com/_/status/704867729379975168)
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tantek hah good point
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aaronpk hehe
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aaronpk maybe soon there will be a p3k set up for @indiewebcamp
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tantek when will p3k support wiki pages? ;)
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mblaney lol sorry a bit cheeky :-)
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tantek :)
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mblaney aaronpk++ for p3k indiewebcamp
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Loqi aaronpk has 86 karma
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mblaney (though dobrado is also a wiki...)
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tantek what is dobrado?
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Loqi dobrado is a multi user content management system that supports many indieweb features https://indiewebcamp.com/dobrado
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tantek neat
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tantek mblaney: is anyone else using dobrado on their personal site?
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tantek.com edited /dobrado (+6) "put TOC below logo" (view diff)
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mblaney I doubt it, I haven't done a good job of explaining what it is (yet).
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tantek that's ok, we can keep incrementally improving the wiki page
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mblaney will do that soon by improving it's own web site, but have too much other work on at the moment.
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tantek.com edited /dobrado (+166) "note open source in definition, see also, linky linky" (view diff)
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tantek mblaney: would you say that dobrado is easily installable?
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tantek ... by someone other than the creator(s)?
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tantek !tell jgarber would you say that FrancisCMS is easily installable by someone other than the creator(s)?
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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mblaney tantek: yes it's easily installable, the hardest bit would be cloning with git since I don't provide a download at the moment
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mblaney after that it's one config file though.
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tantek I guess that's a reasonable bar for today's indieweb "easily installable" - sounds not that much more difficult than Known
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mblaney there's a few things on my list to make the process easier, hopefully I can get to them soon.
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mblaney tantek++ for wiki page improvements though, thanks!
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Loqi tantek has 278 karma
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tantek big fan of new indieweb projects that people build to scratch their particular itches, especially open source like that. well done.
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aaronpk eep, i'm gonna run the free tier down tonight. 4 hours until the quota resets, and i only have 3.5 hours left in the free quota
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lmorchard.com edited /events/2016-03-23-homebrew-website-club (+427) "/* Where */" (view diff)
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aaronparecki.com edited /events/2016-03-09-homebrew-website-club (+13) "no pdx this week" (view diff)
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aaronpk thinking about how I want to handle status URLs for webmention.io
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aaronpk I don't want to permanently store data about all the invalid mentions it receives, since it gets a ton
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aaronpk but I *am* already storing everything about valid mentions, so I want to return that
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aaronpk i'm thinking I will generate a random identifier for each request, and temporarily store that (in redis, expiring in like 72 hours)
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KevinMarks are the invalid ones from pingbacks? or @t
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aaronpk invalid ones are from pingbacks. @t's are valid, just annoying
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KevinMarks with technorati we had separate queues by source, and serviced the more reliable ones more quickly
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aaronpk if a mention is successful, i'll update that cache to point to the permanent identifier, and then send a 301 redirect to the new identifier
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aaronpk the alternative is I store the random token in the database, but that means actually quite a lot more storage
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aaronpk eh i guess it'd only be like 7mb more (plus indexes for it) so maybe i should just go that route
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aaronpk (for the current data set)
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KartikPrabhu http://nymag.com/following/2016/03/julieanne-smolinski-quitting-twitter.html on Twitter, spam and abuse. warning NSFW language
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KevinMarks not julieanne, she was great at twitter
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@dret adding "webmention" to the list of well-known link relation types https://t.co/4ZdQcwoL3g; now listing 93 link relation types. (twitter.com/_/status/704937397323173892)
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marcthiele Good morning from Barcelona.
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petermolnar morning marcthiele
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tantek KevinMarks: seems this is an inescapable outcome of any "free" silo which has incentive for growth at the cost of any form of decorum or "community"
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tantek.com edited /silo-quits (+586) "/* Silo quitters 2016 */ Julieanne Smolinski Twitter" (view diff)
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cweiske what syndication platforms are out there, except twitter and maybe superfeedr?
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cweiske (where i can search and subscribe to tags)
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tantek cweiske: I'm not even sure what you mean by a "syndication platform"
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cweiske to e.g. discover post on #indieweb
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cweiske without manually subscribing to 1000s of users
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tantek real time filtering? Google Alerts kind of does that too
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cweiske suppose I want to subscribe to post about the indieweb in my reader. how would you go about that?
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tantek I think that's literally what Google Alerts is supposed to do for you
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tantek except I think their list of sources is small
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tantek we used have "tag feeds" at Technorati that shows all blog posts tagged with something
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cweiske i'm partly inspired by https://aaronparecki.com/2013/03/28/2/an-open-challenge-to-app-net
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Loqi [Aaron Parecki] An Open Challenge to App.net
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cweiske Publishing my own content is only as useful as the number of people I have reading it. Rather than try to get a bunch of people to subscribe to my RSS feed, I can leverage these distribution platforms to syndicate my content to a wider audience.
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cweiske I publish my short notes on my site, in HTML at aaronparecki.com/notes. Naturally I don't expect everyone to go look at that page all the time. I expect people to discover my content through distribution platforms.
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cweiske oh it would be cool if loqi supported fragmentions or anchors
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Loqi woot!
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cweiske displaying not the title but the anchored content
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petermolnar cweiske this way my question ~2 years ago as well :)
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cweiske the loqi one?
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Loqi yo
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petermolnar no, the where to discover things
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petermolnar and how
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petermolnar "the net is vast and infinite" and it's not easy to discovery things in your interest, especially not with a search on google
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petermolnar I had the idea to make an indie-spider, using the p-tags as keywords, but then I realized, I'd be recreating altavista (instead of meta keywords depending on something else ) and it's easy to see the coming doom of that
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cweiske but maybe scoped to indieweb could work
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petermolnar how would you scope it? ( honest question )
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cweiske theme-specific aggregators
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cweiske e.g everyone who posted about #indieweb
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petermolnar I'd give 2 to 3 weeks for a massive amount of spam, tagged as #indieweb
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cweiske vouch-like only allow sites that have been linked from trusted sites?
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petermolnar I do remember altavista before it was found by the porn industry and that how fast it changed and got near impossible to search without highly improper content (given that I was ~12 this was indeed an issue)
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petermolnar the vouch idea is not bad
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petermolnar I could easily make a map, originating from /irc-people, crawling all outgoing urls on all of those pages, making an index of it and have a feed coming in from superfeedr, with #indieweb, matched against existing domains ( list is obviously under constant change ) and provide it as a searchable thing
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KartikPrabhu really does not understand the question about "discovering content"
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KartikPrabhu I discover content all the time
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KartikPrabhu people I follow on my /reader like/reply-to etc.. people I don't follow. If I like the new content I follow those people => new content discovery
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petermolnar KartikPrabhu an example: I'm about to visit X city/country and I want to search for blog/gastro/travel entries, from actual people, personal experiences. Usually what I do is get on Flickr and WordPress.com and search for keywords there: location names, attactions, etc.
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petermolnar I'm not aware of any way to do this without involving silos, thus only searching for content present there
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KartikPrabhu that is the first time I have heard of that use-case. Sounds more like "search" to me
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petermolnar on most of the silos you can subscribe to these searches
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petermolnar which is then a type of discovery afterwards
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petermolnar so let's say I develop an interest in topic 'Y'. This topic 'Y' is not something I have in common with the people I'm currently subscribed for, so I start searching
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petermolnar but searching for it on Google - for example - will lead me mostly to silos or magazines which is not what I'm after
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petermolnar and yes, we're back to technorati thing, mentioned here numerous times
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petermolnar s/technorati thing/rebuilding technorati/
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Loqi petermolnar meant to say: and yes, we're back to rebuilding technorati, mentioned here numerous times
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KartikPrabhu so you just don't want silos, even a distribution networks...
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KartikPrabhu a/as
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petermolnar I'd be fine with that if it was truly an option, but right now, it's not; twitter is short and fading, wordpress.com doesn't really appreciate duplicated content, etc.
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petermolnar I'm pushing my photos to Flickr for this reason, for others to be able to find it
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petermolnar with searches
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KartikPrabhu i am not understanding the problem
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KartikPrabhu you can link bac to your own site when you POSSE
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petermolnar please ask questions that would help to describe the issue better
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voxpelli regarding earlier discussion, see: https://indiewebcamp.com/tag_aggregation
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voxpelli also: Twitter didn't create the first version of the search we know there today – an independent third party did – and that's likely what will and should happen in IndieWeb as well
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petermolnar I didn't know this
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petermolnar KartikPrabhu offtopic: I've read your display: flex entry; interesting, but I can't figure out if it's possible to do a complete replacement of http://miromannino.github.io/Justified-Gallery/ with it
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petermolnar any ideas?
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Loqi [mention] felix schwenzel commented 'oops, @aaronpk. just saw that now, 8 month late (not really following the irc st...' on a post http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2015-06-01/line/1433191627902 (http://wirres.net/article/articleview/9456/1/54/)
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@ReadersGazette BLOG Indie Author Answers by Jim Heskett http://www.jimheskett.com/indieauth Get help writing your book #bookbloggers 31 (twitter.com/_/status/705017316887699457)
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@WendyandCharles ReadersGazette: BLOG Indie Author Answers by Jim Heskett http://www.jimheskett.com/indieauth Get help writing your book #bookbloggers 31 (twitter.com/_/status/705018721245470720)
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@RikMende IndieWebCamp Nuremberg 2016, 16th-17th April 2016 | Lanyrd: http://lanyrd.com/2016/indiewebcamp-nuremberg/ (twitter.com/_/status/705032258109857792)
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@RikMende I'm tracking IndieWebCamp Nuremberg 2016, 16th-17th April 2016 in Nuremberg http://lanyrd.com/2016/indiewebcamp-nuremberg/ (twitter.com/_/status/705032845102817280)
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@Weifarer RT @ReadersGazette BLOG Indie Author Answers by Jim Heskett http://www.jimheskett.com/indieauth Get help writing your book #bookbloggers 31 (twitter.com/_/status/705030920844271616)
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@jkphl @RikMende Welcome on board of our @indiewebcamp! Pls let me know if you need assistance w/ accommodation and so on. :) (twitter.com/_/status/705033798396862464)
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@jkphl @RikMende Oh, and please add yourself on the guest list ;) https://indiewebcamp.com/2016/Nuremberg/Guest_List (twitter.com/_/status/705035524449439744)
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@arielwaldman I think by “dot com” they mean email but I initially took it 2 mean website. But I guess email reigns over #indieweb https://twitter.com/arielwaldman/status/705037114258399237/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/705037114258399237)
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@onreact_com RT @kevinmarks #indieweb @kevinmarks: AMP, Facebook Instant Articles and Apple News are like 3 new browsers that only support a subset of the web (twitter.com/_/status/705072318133968898)
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@prtksxna RT @kevinmarks #indieweb @kevinmarks: AMP, Facebook Instant Articles and Apple News are like 3 new browsers that only support a subset of the web (twitter.com/_/status/705072707029696512)
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@RikMende RT @kevinmarks #indieweb @kevinmarks: AMP, Facebook Instant Articles and Apple News are like 3 new browsers that only support a subset of the web (twitter.com/_/status/705073122140094465)
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@RikMende RT @aaronpk Just published new working drafts of Webmention and Micropub! https://www.w3.org/TR/2016/WD-webmention-20160301/ https://www.w3.org/TR/2016/WD-micropub-20160301/ Thanks everyone! (twitter.com/_/status/705073698701754368)
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snarfed huffduffer is still down :(
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snarfed condolences adactio. good luck. let us know if we can help!
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adactio Grrr... I'll see if I can figure out what's going on.
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Loqi adactio: tantek left you a message on 2/9 at 11:21am: is there a HWC Brighton 2016-02-10? https://indiewebcamp.com/events/2016-02-10-homebrew-website-club#Where http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2016-02-09/line/1455045676701
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Loqi adactio: tantek left you a message on 2/15 at 1:39pm: Can you confirm HWC Brighton 2016-02-24 location? https://indiewebcamp.com/next-hwc#Where http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2016-02-15/line/1455572374925
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@botminik But it sadly looks like Twitter broke IndieAuth be putting a short url into the night is out of question? (twitter.com/_/status/705087776849575938)
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snarfed 🤔
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aaronpk is that a markov bot?
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sknebel I hope so
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kylewm huffduffer seems to be back up
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snarfed yay!
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Loqi woot
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@kevinmarks “The closed web is winning “because it’s easier to use.”” - @dries http://www.hyperorg.com/blogger/2016/03/01/berkman-dries-buytaert/ #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/705090728733515777)
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Loqi [indieweb] "“The closed web is winning “because it’s easier to use.”” - @dries http://www.hyperorg.com/blogger/2016/03/01/berkman-dries-buytaert/ #indieweb" by Kevin Marks http://known.kevinmarks.com/2016/the-closed-web-is-winning-because-its-easier-to-use
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snarfed (humblebrag warning: thank god huffduff-video is idempotent and remembers when it's already converted a video. otherwise i'd be sitting through like 10m of converting multi-GB videos right now :P)
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@cdanuloff RT @kevinmarks “The closed web is winning “because it’s easier to use.”” - @dries http://www.hyperorg.com/blogger/2016/03/01/berkman-dries-buytaert/ #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/705096960966057984)
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@kevinmarks hi @Dries @dweinberger @berkmancenter - you're all invited to IndieWebCamp Cambridge on March 14th http://indiewebcamp.com/2016/MIT (twitter.com/_/status/705098186881249280)
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@benwerd RT @kevinmarks “The closed web is winning “because it’s easier to use.”” - @dries http://www.hyperorg.com/blogger/2016/03/01/berkman-dries-buytaert/ #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/705098246528471040)
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@benwerd RT @kevinmarks hi @Dries @dweinberger @berkmancenter - you're all invited to IndieWebCamp Cambridge on March 14th http://indiewebcamp.com/2016/MIT (twitter.com/_/status/705098257744003072)
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KevinMarks what is drupal?
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Loqi https://indiewebcamp.com/Drupal
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@betsythedevine RT @kevinmarks hi @Dries @dweinberger @berkmancenter - you're all invited to IndieWebCamp Cambridge on March 14th http://indiewebcamp.com/2016/MIT (twitter.com/_/status/705098403248648192)
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@jeena @jkphl http://indiewebcamp.com/2015-review aber ich hab die manuell bereinigt und bei manchen die pfade gefixt, etc (twitter.com/_/status/705098761891147776)
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cleverdevil http://share.cleverdevil.io/LAEY5r4N6h.png
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cleverdevil errp.
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cleverdevil wrong channel ;P
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GWG Afternoon
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@ben_seven @bryanrieger no idea, to be honest. But I have seen folks burnt by service closure or degradation too often to not try an indieweb approach. (twitter.com/_/status/705115176677330944)
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@kevinmarks @acquia @Dries We'd love to get #indieweb protocols built into Drupal like webmention and micropub. (twitter.com/_/status/705121356220751873)
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Jeena !tell aaronpk I got the IWC stickers today, thanks a lot!
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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aaronpk awesome!
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Loqi aaronpk: Jeena left you a message 25 minutes ago: I got the IWC stickers today, thanks a lot! http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2016-03-02/line/1456950637192
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aaronpk it's pretty crazy that someone will take that envelope from Portland to Gothenburg for less than the cost of a cup of coffee!
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snarfed aww looks like bnvk's site is down :( http://brennannovak.com/
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Jeena that is true, it is equally crazy that someone will grow the coffee, take it from South America to Gothenburg and then make the fresh cup of coffee for the cost of a cup of coffee ;)
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aaronpk Jeena: lol! very true
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@sikkdays @tone_def Sorry, I was playing with webmentions. Check out @jeena’s suggestion, https://jeena.net/photos/217 (twitter.com/_/status/705139902229323776)
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gRegorLove Good afternoon, campers
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snarfed hey gRegorLove
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snarfed seeing /wp-login.php show up in bridgy's logs always makes me laugh
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snarfed /humans.txt too
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KevinMarks restores slides.kevinmarks.com
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KevinMarks which was in a dead heroku instance and is now static on google storage
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snarfed static++
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Loqi static has 1 karma
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aaronpk i'm considering doing the same for my HTML slides
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Jeena what is google storage?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "google storage" yet. Would you like to create it? https://indiewebcamp.com/s/10Ff
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@timklapdor RT @kevinmarks “The closed web is winning “because it’s easier to use.”” - @dries http://www.hyperorg.com/blogger/2016/03/01/berkman-dries-buytaert/ #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/705147982904061952)
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KevinMarks what is persona
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Loqi Persona is a protocol for email-based identity spearheaded by Mozilla that is supported by IndieAuth for rel-me links to email addresses; it will be shutting down November 30, 2016 [1] https://indiewebcamp.com/Persona
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KevinMarks i'm live on TWiG
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KevinMarks send me your things to talk about
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aaronpk see if there's anything interesting in last week? http://indiewebcamp.com/this-week/2016-02-26.html
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[kevinmarks] anyone using federated wiki?
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[kevinmarks] talking wikis on TWiG
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Jeena are those oranges on the tree behind you?
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[kevinmarks] they are
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Jeena cool :)
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Jeena there are federated wikis?
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aaronpk what is smallest federated wiki?
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Loqi The Smallest Federated Wiki is an open source project led by Ward Cunningham to produce a wiki that federates using fork history, and was created & launched at the first IndieWebCamp in 2011 in Portland https://indiewebcamp.com/Smallest_Federated_Wiki
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Jeena at work we almost always use Confluence
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Jeena which works nice but we have to copy a lot of content from one customer to another
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Jeena because most of our customers need the same content in their wikis from us
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aaronpk in the last 24 hours, 57% of the webmentions/pingbacks processed by webmention.io have been discarded as invalid (most often no link from source to target)
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aaronpk I suspect that number is not higher because of the rather large number of valid mentions bridgy sends it
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KartikPrabhu aaronpk: also are they mostly pingbacks and not webmentions?
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aaronpk not sure, I don't have logs for that really
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KartikPrabhu ah ok i would suspect that since webmention isn't big enough yet for "spam" usese
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aaronpk yeah i'm almost certain all of the junk ones are pingbacks
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aaronpk wonder where i can track this so we can watch it change over time
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Loqi [indieweb] "“The closed web is winning “because it’s easier to use.”” - @dries http://www.hyperorg.com/blogger/2016/03/01/berkman-dries-buytaert/ #indieweb" by Kevin Marks http://known.kevinmarks.com/2016/the-closed-web-is-winning-because-its-easier-to-use
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[kevinmarks] stuff it into some log management thing?
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Jeena i wonder which software he is using for his website https://jkphl.is/articles/indie-as-in-individuality/#comment-90 because he has the same bug as the wordpress plugin had where it deosn't make the author url absolute with the domain, etc.
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Loqi Hello glasses, hello Tom Davies
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sknebel Jenna: <meta name="generator" content="TYPO3 6.1 CMS" />
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sknebel maybe adapted the wordpress plugin?
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sknebel (huh, Loqi got the title wrong, catching the "next article" teaser instead of the main one)
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sknebel ah: https://typo3.org/extensions/repository/view/indieweb
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sknebel What is Typo3?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "Typo3" yet. Would you like to create it? https://indiewebcamp.com/s/10Fg
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sknebel What is typo3?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "typo3" yet. Would you like to create it? https://indiewebcamp.com/s/10Fh
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sknebel What is TYPO3?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "TYPO3" yet. Would you like to create it? https://indiewebcamp.com/s/10Fi
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sknebel TYPO3 is a large content management system written in [[PHP]]
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loqi.me created /TYPO3 (+88) "prompted by sknebel https://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2016-03-02/line/1456960515268 and dfn added by sknebel" (view diff)
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Loqi ok
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sknebel typo3 is /TYPO3
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loqi.me created /typo3 (+18) "prompted by sknebel https://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2016-03-02/line/1456960523538 and dfn added by sknebel" (view diff)
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Loqi ok
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aaronpk oh well this is an interesting edge case
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aaronpk i've been thinking about how best to detect when a page is a "feed" (or whatever you want to call it), and so far my heuristics were going to be "are there multiple h-entrys in the items array"
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aaronpk ooh I know! if the page URL matches the u-url of one of the entries then it's a permalink page
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aaronpk adding a test case to XRay now
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[kevinmarks] thats a good heuristic
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aaronpk odd. it appears that XRay is unable to talk to *any* google URLs, not just appengine ones
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aaronpk (appspot.com ones)
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gregorlove.com edited /TYPO3 (+46) "link,see also section" (view diff)
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aaronpk getting connect errors for blogspot.com and youtube.com
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[kevinmarks] that's odd
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aaronpk it's documented for appspot.com URLs
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[kevinmarks] I can get to blogspot etc from unmung
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aaronpk oh...
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aaronpk https://cloud.google.com/appengine/docs/php/urlfetch/#making_requests_to_another_app_engine_app_or_google_service
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aaronpk "Making requests to another App Engine app or Google service"
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aaronpk in particular "your app must set the follow_location option in HTTP context to false"
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aaronpk the issue is I *want* to follow redirects, but i apparently can't for google URLs
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www.svenknebel.de edited /TYPO3 (+289) "indieweb example" (view diff)
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aaronpk so now i need to make a blacklist of all google domains and not follow redirects for those
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aaronpk so I wonder where i can find a list of all google domains :(
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sknebel that doesn't really read like a "have to"...
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aaronpk what doesn't?
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sknebel eh, it's worded weirdly
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sknebel "should consider"
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sknebel "must set"
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aaronpk hm there was something else I read too
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aaronpk yeah that sentence doesn't make sense either
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aaronpk i think it's required. i get connect errors trying to connect to things liks goo.gl
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gregorlove.com edited /TYPO3 (+197) "Plugins section" (view diff)
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[kevinmarks] anything I should plug apart from indiewebcamp MIT?
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[kevinmarks] do you get an obvious error you can then retry with that setting
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aaronpk yes it specifically returns "connect error".
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aaronpk but now i'm realizing since google's own URL shortener counts, I would actually have to write my own code to follow the redirects
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aaronpk hmm... if a page has a single h-entry but the h-entry URL does not match the page URL, then it's actually more like an h-feed that happens to have only one item in it right?