#indiewebcamp 2015-05-06

2015-05-06 UTC
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@larsblauridsen
Reducing risk in web development - http://blog.backand.com/reduce-risk-web-dev/ #webdevelopment #ownyourdata
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bret
snarfed++
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Loqi
snarfed has 101 karma
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GWG
Slow night
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kylewm
need to drum up some more interest for HWC SF tomorrow
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KartikPrabhu
<ominous ritual drumming ensues>
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tantek
good morning #indiewebcamp!
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@mdeimann
Widerspruch zwischen Versprechen für offenes #indieweb und der Umsetzung in starre Formen. #digitaleBildung http://net.educause.edu/ir/library/pdf/eli3035.pdf
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tantek.com
edited /silo-quits (+1068) "/* Silo quitters 2015 */ Joss Whedon"
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KevinMarks__
are you social WGing again today?
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rhiaro
KevinMarks__: no socialwg today
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petermolnar
what did I miss yesterday?
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rhiaro
General agreement that we're all on the same side and different approaches are closer than we thought and excitement to try for further convergence
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rhiaro
I know, right! ;)
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@bastianallgeier
There are two train options to Düsseldorf on Friday to make it on time for IndieWebCamp. Let’s just be optimistic.
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rhiaro
I think Facebook just added comment threading, hold everything
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petermolnar
it's not new
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petermolnar
and I'm not happy with it :/
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rhiaro
Or... 'Comments' are now normal status updates that other people can comment on
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tantek
but what about comments on comments?
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tantek
pretty sure it's only 2 deep commets (original, comment, comment on comment)
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rhiaro
I'm only on mobile so I can't figure out what's going on
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tantek
see screenshot on wiki
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petermolnar
it was available sometimes, for some posts, I guess it was running as a/b testing for a long time
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rhiaro
Clearly I use Facebook appropriately little to be up to speed
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tantek
rhiaro++
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Loqi
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rhiaro
Mine looks slightly different from that screenshot but maybe it's mobile
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tantek
more screenshots welcome :)
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rhiaro
Yeah I'm mashing the screenshot buttons on my phone but it only works about 10% of the time
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rhiaro
And sometimes results in accidentally restarting my phone, it's not great
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GWG
Good morning
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tommorris.org
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tommorris
^ contribs welcome
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tommorris.org
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waterpigs.co.uk
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tommorris.org
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petermolnar
KevinMarks__ I've read that silo quit article you linked from theawl earlier; the only question I have: what does he work? Did he also quit his job? ( slightly offtopic, I know, but I'm interested )
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ahoy.fischaelameer.de
edited /2015/Germany/Guest_List (+284) "/* Participants */"
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@glennjones
@tristanbailey sorry to hear that, I am looking forward to it. On the plus side @indiewebcamp is usually good at live documentation/video
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kylewm
so far only KevinMarks_ and me have RSVPed yes to HWC in SF tonight ... anybody else thinking of coming? benwerd, erinjo, snarfed, j12t, dariusdunlap, danlyke, jjuran?
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tantek
kylewm: did you invite people on the FB event?
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tantek
from the set of people invited in the past
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kylewm
I can only invite people i'm friends with
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tantek
kylewm: hmm - ok
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tantek
kylewm: KevinMarks knows many more
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tantek
hmm - I think key for each HWC instance is to have 2+ co-organizers attending and actively inviting people
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tantek
ok kylewm you asked for it - prepare for Bridgy invitations flood
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kylewm
tantek: thanks
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j12t
kylwm: I can't, sorry.
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tommorris.org
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Loqi
[mention] Ben Borges commented 'I wish i could attend, that's probably the closest #indieweb event i'll get in Europe for a while..' on a post http://indiewebcamp.com/2015/Germany (http://1-m.cc/2015/i-wish-i-could-attend-thats-probably-the-closest-indieweb)
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gregorlove.com
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Loqi
[mention] Ben Borges commented 'Going to check this tool later, seems nice #podcast #indieweb' on a post http://indiewebcamp.com/wiki/index.php?title=Huffduffer&diff=19068&oldid=prev (http://1-m.cc/2015/going-to-check-this-tool-later-seems-nice-podcast-indieweb)
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@Webwalrus
@The_FiveBells Pretty much. Ever tried bridgly? #indieweb
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KevinMarks__
hm did fb api 2 break loqi getting event notifications?
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kylewm
KevinMarks__: yeah probably until tantek reauthorizes Bridgy with its new permissions
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kylewm
then we'll get a flood
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@silentdan
@onigama am wochenende ist @btconf @indiewebcamp webgedönse SA/SO veranstaltungen … geht bis ca. 18:00 uhr SA
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KevinMarks__
hm, I just went to https://www.brid.gy/facebook/724885424# and it didn't as me to reauth
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KevinMarks__
s/as/ask/
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Loqi
KevinMarks__ meant to say: hm, I just went to https://www.brid.gy/facebook/724885424# and it didn't ask me to reauth
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kylewm
KevinMarks__: is it missing new content for you? seems to be seeing your posts
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KevinMarks__
I just invited people to that event
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tyler.cat
created /Template:kodo (+13) "Created page with "Tyler Gillies""
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ben_thatmustbeme
who uses git to manage static code?
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ben_thatmustbeme
for their site
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ben_thatmustbeme
that came out really general
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kylewm
what's static code?
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sparverius
not exeucted on server?
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sparverius
or parsed only vs executed
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ben_thatmustbeme
wondering about micropub support for static sites basically
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ben_thatmustbeme
rhiaro, pointed out gitpub for example
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kylewm
KevinMarks__: I think it's seeing them https://www.brid.gy/facebook/12802152
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KevinMarks__
i have my site in git
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KevinMarks__
(statically served with node on heroku)
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KevinMarks__
so you can send me typo fixes via pull requests: https://github.com/kevinmarks/kevin-marks.com/pull/1
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kylewm
snarfed?? how's this?
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snarfed
it's the canonical copy., at least of posts/pages. for those, the wordpress db is derived
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KevinMarks__
heh, I haven't hit the folder cap yet
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KevinMarks__
so yours are markdown?
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KevinMarks__
with my noterlive ones I post the text and the html, but the text isn't really the source of the html
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snarfed
i use a big ugly shell script around blogpost.py: https://github.com/snarfed/wordpress/blob/master/blogpost.sh
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snarfed
ah interesting
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snarfed
oh nm that repo is private
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KevinMarks__
are both generated by noterlive, but I don't have a script to make one from the other at the moemnt
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GWG
Afternoon
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GWG
I've been working on my webactions/post UI code.
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zachdonovan
how's it going?
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GWG
zachdonovan: I'm having some Workflow questions.
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GWG
Is it better to send a URL in and have it create a post or show a form first?
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zachdonovan
how would you send the URL without a form?
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zachdonovan
encoded as a query-string parameter?
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GWG
zachdonovan: Yes
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GWG
I have that set up.
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zachdonovan
are you finding that you often want to add a comment of some sort?
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zachdonovan
it seems to me that if you usually wanted to add some of your thoughts along with the action, then showing a form makes sense
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zachdonovan
if, conversely, you generally just want to link and be done with it, then you can save yourself a page load and a form submission by eagerly creating the post.
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GWG
My solution was to add a query parameter to post directly.
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zachdonovan
neat! how do you decide when to enable/disable that parameter?
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zachdonovan
do you write the querystring out yourself?
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GWG
zachdonovan: That is the question. For some things, it is impossible. You can't do that for a reply. But for a bookmark....
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GWG
In testing, I do.
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GWG
But in usage... I keep moving intermediate versions of the code to my actual site for real testing.
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zachdonovan
What if you create the post when you have enough information (e.g., for a bookmark), and show the form in all circumstances?
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GWG
zachdonovan: Sometimes I may just be bookmarking as a private post.
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zachdonovan
haha, fair enough
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Loqi
rofl
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GWG
So, then I might come back later and change it to public or like it.
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zachdonovan
right, yes, that makes sense
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GWG
I hope to get it working to the point I could use it soon.
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zachdonovan
could you use it in some restricted fashion right now? Just supporting bookmarking, for example?
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zachdonovan
or just supporting public bookmarking, even
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GWG
I should be at that point this week
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Loqi
I agree
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GWG
Then I can refine
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@dailypia
@fruehlingsmama Die Kommentare offener Accounts zu Artikeln werden via webmention dort gesammelt.
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zachdonovan
I'm sure that will really clarify how you want the interface to work.
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tantek
how's HWC?
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GWG
In which city?
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tantek
was thinking SF but it's too early