#indiewebcamp 2016-05-16

2016-05-16 UTC
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Loqi
[indieweb] "Comment on by San Diego IT Systems" by San Diego IT Systems http://techlifeweb.com/13804-2/#comment-119387
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KartikPrabhu
salmention ^ ?
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techlifeweb
Doing some site hacking on my Wordpress site ... Bridgy doesn't seem to be ignoring like (I think) it should. I'm putting the ignore classes in the publish link <a class="u-bridgy-omit-link u-bridgy-ignore-formatting" href="https://brid.gy/publish/twitter">
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KartikPrabhu
techlifeweb: I am confused. that seems to have come from your site
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aaronpk
i'm guessing the comments rss feed
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GWG
The Comments RSS field doesn't recognize anything but traditional comments.
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bear
cool - checked to see if I need to order more shirts and see that it has reached the goal
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techlifeweb
KartikPrabhu: Yes that was a comment on my site. I wasn't referring to that... this tweet https://twitter.com/TechLifeWeb/status/731994886933635072 contains a link back to my site. I didn't intend it to by putting in <a class="u-bridgy-omit-link u-bridgy-ignore-formatting" href="https://brid.gy/publish/twitter"> and it either didn't work or I did that wrong.
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@TechLifeWeb
So many PHP and CSS changes it’s time to see what I broke #indieweb May 15, 2016 by Scott Kingery Posted in… http://techlifeweb.com/13804-2/
(twitter.com/_/status/731994886933635072)
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Loqi
[indieweb] "Comment on Happy #IndieWeb Birthday to Me! by Kris Martin" by Kris Martin http://boffosocko.com/2016/04/25/happy-indieweb-birthday-to-me/#comment-30546
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techlifeweb
Hmmm I think it might have to do with my <article> tag... investigating
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GWG
I need some webmention test data
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GWG
Will steal aaronpk's.
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bear
webmention.rocks has a lot of data
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GWG
Yes, it is going to be one of the tests.
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GWG
I told snarfed I'd learn unit testing sometime.
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kylewm
techlifeweb: I think it's that there is an outer h-entry that wraps the h-entry with the Bridgy properties
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kylewm
Common WordPress issue iirc
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@mjathols
RT https://twitter.com/OnMyKindle1/status/731515549960830977 Thanks for the mention! Tammysdragonfly: #BookReviews OnMyKindle1 #OMKindle #BookBlogger #BookNerd #IndieAuth…
(twitter.com/_/status/732021775282933760)
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GWG
!tell snarfed I wrote a unit test
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Loqi
Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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techlifeweb
kylewm: thanks. I think my h-entry isn't validating correctly per indiewebify.me. I'll check into my code.
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kylewm
oh hey the t-shirts are printing!
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kylewm
wonders if someone had to suck it up and buy the last few to push it over
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kylewm
techlifeweb: if you can remove the class=hentry on the div that's right inside the article, I think that will fix it
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Ruxton
:/ having ownyourgram dramas, never sends anything after the test, further tests work but never happens automagically :(
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GWG
snarfed: Did you get my message?
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tantek
I'm a little lost. Where on indiewebcamp.com (homepage) or https://twitter.com/aaronpk/status/731662837387427841 does it say WHERE to order said t-shirt?
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@aaronpk
Last chance to order your IndieWebCamp shirt! Orders close tomorrow! [photo]
(twitter.com/_/status/731662837387427841)
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tantek
link?
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tantek
oh campaign has ended, I thought we had until today
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tantek
oh well, hoping someone ordered some extras
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GWG
tantek: It is tomorrow now
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tantek
GWG, usually when people say something "closes" on that day, it's inclusive, as in you can order that day
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GWG
Teespring is Eastern time though.
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GWG
They should say that.
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tantek
yeah that's lame
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tantek
if something is going to end at midnight, for US folks, it should end at midnight Pacific Time, because that meets PT expectations and just gives a litle slop for East Coast folks
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GWG
This is my first Teespring experience to be honest.
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babyt
as
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tantek
what is as?
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Loqi
It looks like we don't have a page for "as" yet. Would you like to create it? https://indiewebcamp.com/s/10LM
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Loqi
[indieweb] "More testing to see if I fixed my hentry problems. #indieweb" by Scott Kingery http://techlifeweb.com/13810-2/
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@TechLifeWeb
More testing to see if I fixed my hentry problems. #indieweb
(twitter.com/_/status/732078378199617540)
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techlifeweb
kylewm: Looks like the extra hentry was the issue. Thanks again.
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Ruxton
!tell snarfed any reason wordpress-micropub on github is a version above what's happening on wordpress.org? looks like github has some new stuff from dshanske
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Loqi
Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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GWG
Ruxton, he won't let me commit any more till I write unit tests
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GWG
I am working on learning unit testing.
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kylewm
Ruxton: Instagram doesn't give ownyourgram streaming updates for all its users anymore. We don't know why :(
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Ruxton
that seems odd, given it has exactly 0 tests rights now :?
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Ruxton
kylewm: cheers :(
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GWG
Ruxton, that was the point.
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GWG
Tonight I experimented with unit tests for webmentions. I intend to return to Micropub at some point and write some.
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Ruxton
im all for test coverage, but most of the stuff I'm talking about has been in master for 10 months and isn't on wordpress.org :/
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GWG
Ruxton, at the moment, I am the only WordPress developer in the community actively committing to WordPress.org
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GWG
And even I have taken on more than I can realistically handle
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GWG
Ruxton, either way, will see what I can do
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Ruxton
ok, anything I can do to help? Testing in PHP is a dogpile, but I'm well versed in PHP and WordPress plugins.
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GWG
Ruxton, what do you want to do? We are pretty wide open with opportunity
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GWG
What area interests you the most?
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Loqi
It looks like we don't have a page for "interests you the most" yet. Would you like to create it? https://indiewebcamp.com/s/10LN
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Ruxton
I want to see those things sitting in master in micropub github get on wordpress.org ;) I was about to write some basic support for syndication till I realised it was sitting in master.
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GWG
The repository needs an update now that Micropub has a better defined standard.
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GWG
Lots went in since I last worked on it.
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GWG
Same as webmentions, which is my current project.
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kylewm
Is snarfed the only person who can update the wordpress package?
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GWG
kylewm, correct
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GWG
But I wouldn't right now.
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GWG
I would update for the new changes if I could first.
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GWG
At least some of them.
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kylewm
That's mostly all edit/delete stuff
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GWG
Not only that.
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Ruxton
where it is now in master is better than where it is currently on wordpress.org
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GWG
There was some good clarification
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Ruxton
regardless of what the future holds
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Ruxton
that's the only reason I don't get why it's not on WP.org
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GWG
Ruxton, not sure, will ask next time I see snarfed.
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Ruxton
cheers, I'm sure snarfed will see my msg too :P
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GWG
Ruxton, there's more coming.
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GWG
I learned a lot from my work with Webmentions
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Ruxton
I've built quite a few WP plugins and I've been in and out of PHP for 20 years, so if you need a hand feel free to hit me up
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GWG
And snarfed based his structure on Webmentions
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GWG
Ruxton, if you want to help with anything I have privileges for, I maintain a few useful plugins
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GWG
My biggest one at the moment is Post Kinds
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GWG
But everything is in need of improvements
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GWG
I jump around a lot
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Ruxton
ah yeah, I was wondering how postKinds could leverage WP Post Formats, cos right now they don't seem tied together
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GWG
Ruxton, they are more a replacement for Post Formats.
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Ruxton
yeah which creates issues in WP when themes support formats
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GWG
I did have an idea to set Post Formats when I could.
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GWG
But I tried to make it easy to work with
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Ruxton
My thought was it should just extend the formats, add the ones it needs and link the like ones. No point re-inventing something that exists in WP, when all you really want is to tie it to a new name
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Ruxton
anyway, I should get back to work before someone gets annoyed :P
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GWG
Ruxton, you can't add Post Formats.
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GWG
I should head to bed.
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Ruxton
beacuse "3629 examples, 36 failures" :(
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Loqi
yea!
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GWG
Good night. Will continue this, I hope.
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Loqi
laila tov!
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miklb
Ruxton by the way, I sorted out the problems with all of the blank lines in my source :-)
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Ruxton
cheers
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Loqi
Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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rrix
thanks boo
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rrix
!tell snarfed the URL in the 404 lost a space, before the "(1)"
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Loqi
Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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rrix
I think I need to re-think how I handle post-types, there are a lot of common elements which I am not abstracting out properly...
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@webrocker
And another test of the POSSE/indieweb/bridgy thing. Sry for the bother.
(twitter.com/_/status/732149099063955456)
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kylewm.com
edited /h-review (+180) "/* IndieWeb Examples */ add me as an example with explicit h-review markup"
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aaronpk
well that was good timing. I was putting off dealing with installing the upgraded letsencrypt client and finishing automating all the things, and when I went to go do it last night, they had just released a totally new client for it https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2016/05/announcing-certbot-new-tls-robot
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aaronpk
guess it's time for me to write a new followup post to my earlier letsencrypt post
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GWG
I just renewed with the older script this morning.
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aaronpk
i set mine up on a cron job so it should just be all automatic now
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GWG
I wanted to do a manual renewal so I'd be set before updating the client and automating it
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aaronpk
yeah, i was doing it manually until yesterday
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GWG
I have two servers. Likely I'll deploy the new client and automate it on the test server, then copy the configuration to the live one
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bear
oh cool, new letsencrypt client...
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aaronpk
bets on how long until Google's new "Spaces" shuts down? http://get.google.com/spaces/
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Loqi
I don't know
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bear
doesn't want to take that bet
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Zegnat
Google Spaces does sound like what I would have wanted from Google Plus and its “circles”
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colintedford
aaronpk: I bet Google Spaces will live forever, let's move this channel there ;P
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tantek
good morning #indiewebcamp!
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tantek
let's see what venues are confirmed for this week's HWC
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tantek
what is next-hwc?
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Loqi
Homebrew Website Club Meetup is on 2016-05-18 at J.A. Pripps Pub & Café https://indiewebcamp.com/next-hwc
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tantek
what about multiple locations Loqi?
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tantek
!tell aaronpk what is the Portland venue for Homebrew Website Club this week? https://indiewebcamp.com/next-hwc#Where
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Loqi
Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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tantek
!tell jgarber is there a DC venue for Homebrew Website Club this week? https://indiewebcamp.com/next-hwc#Where (assuming you haven't found another venue unless you speak-up soon!)
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Loqi
Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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tantek
!tell adactio is HWC Brighton happening this week? (assuming it is) https://indiewebcamp.com/next-hwc#Where
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Loqi
Ok, I'll tell him that when I see him next
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aaronpk
good morning
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Loqi
aaronpk: tantek left you a message 2 minutes ago: what is the Portland venue for Homebrew Website Club this week? https://indiewebcamp.com/next-hwc#Where http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2016-05-16/line/1463419154268
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tantek
wow that's ridiculously fast. like seconds. must be PuSH updated right? can't be polling that often.
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aaronpk
right, through superfeedr
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tantek
but that requires the Mozilla Wiki to be doing PuSH, OR Superfeedr to be polling its RecentChanges feed file
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tantek
(like really often like every second)
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tantek
(which I really doubt)
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tantek
no sign of any hub rel discovery on wikimo home page, recentchanges, or recentchanges atom feed
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tantek
so superfeedr is pulling it like 1/s?
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KevinMarks
or you got lucky?
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aaronpk
or their polling interval coincided with your edit?
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Loqi
[indieweb] "Homebrew Website Club PDX" http://calagator.org/events/1250470275
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tantek
possible
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aaronpk
that was pretty fast too
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aaronpk
2 minutes
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tantek
mine was seconds which was possibly coincdental
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tantek
s/coincdental/coincidental
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Loqi
tantek meant to say: mine was seconds which was possibly coincidental
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Jeena
I'd love to add checkins to my website but I have no idea what I want to save with it and especially how the ui would look like
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Jeena
I already read http://indiewebcamp.com/checkin but didn't really get inspired
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KevinMarks
if the moz wiki updates a lot, superfeedr may have upped its poll interval
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tantek.com
edited /events/2016-05-18-homebrew-website-club (+8) "/* San Francisco */ RSVP"
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tantek
the moz wiki updates A LOT
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aaronpk
Jeena: we should chat, i'm on the verge of adding checkins but also have some lingering questions
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Jeena
I'm almost at home, in 15 minutes
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tantek
HWC was announced in the weekly Mozilla project meeting!
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PFMurph
:D
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snarfed
morning all!
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Loqi
snarfed: GWG left you a message 16 hours, 27 minutes ago: I wrote a unit test http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2016-05-15/line/1463364844104
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Loqi
snarfed: Ruxton left you a message 12 hours, 49 minutes ago: any reason wordpress-micropub on github is a version above what's happening on wordpress.org? looks like github has some new stuff from dshanske http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2016-05-15/line/1463377888893
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Loqi
snarfed: rrix left you a message 10 hours, 32 minutes ago: the URL in the 404 lost a space, before the "(1)" http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2016-05-16/line/1463386122653
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snarfed
handled
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rrix
morning :)
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snarfed
mf2py parser question: should returned url properties be url-escaped?
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snarfed
eg mf2py returns rrix's photo URLs with spaces in them here: http://mf2.kylewm.com/?url=http://notes.whatthefuck.computer/1463382300.0-note.html
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KevinMarks
he didn't escape them in the source
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@webrocker
@jkphl i've yet to find a way to get brid.gy to skip the self mention…maybe 1 step up the indieweb ladder is to talk directly to twitter api
(twitter.com/_/status/732281158868828160)
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snarfed
KevinMarks: ok. so...?
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tantek
snarfed, have you tried looking for a URL validator? ;)
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KevinMarks
browser do display the images linked with spaces in
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snarfed
tantek: oh god. definitely not. i accept that i'll need to escape/validate them; i was just curious about parser expectations
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tantek
browsers tend to be very liberal about accepting URLs and doing "smart" things with them
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snarfed
KevinMarks: i think that's just UI sugar. i expect their actual HTTP requests are escaped
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rrix
(so is it user error on my side?)
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snarfed
eh, unclear
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snarfed
i'll fix bridgy so it url-encodes the path
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KevinMarks
careful you don't double encode %
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snarfed
yeah, it is nontrivial, even for just path
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snarfed
rrix: short term you're probably best off encoding those urls in your markup
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KevinMarks
I think https://url.spec.whatwg.org/ allows spaces within urls, but RFC3986 doesn't
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rrix
snarfed: thats fine, ill make sure of it in the future. I self-POSSEd that post last night, so it bother me right now
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miklb
If Twitter does drop counting links towards 140 character limit, that's good news for bridgy users
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tantek
and for perma(short)citations!
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tantek
miklb: where is that noted/rumored?
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miklb
tantek a bloomberg article making the rounds on Twitter. I'll find the link
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tantek
guess I'll have to update a bunch of CASSIS code for that then!
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tantek
and rethink tons of /Twitter#POSSE!
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aaronpk
was just looking at fixing a bug in quill where adding a photo does not count against the twitter character limit
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aaronpk
maybe now i won't have to
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tantek
was happy that Bridgy Publish photos to twitter took care of that
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aaronpk
well just the UI counter i mean
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aaronpk
which is actually using that cassis function
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miklb
!tell voxpelli if you give me a basic idea on what I need to a syndication links, I think I can flesh out the rest
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Loqi
Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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gRegorLove
No link limit? Well that won't be spammed at all.
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miklb
s/to a/to add/
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Loqi
miklb meant to say: !tell voxpelli if you give me a basic idea on what I need to add syndication links, I think I can flesh out the rest
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miklb
gRegorLove all the easier to flesh out the spammers :)
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ben_thatmustbeme
acegiak: kylewm or someone else with salmention support. Could you comment on this. https://ben.thatmustbe.me/note/2016/5/16/2/ And then someone comment on their comment
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Loqi
[Ben Roberts] I still can't believe there is no facepalm emoji
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ben_thatmustbeme
i want to try try muli-level comments and such
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ben_thatmustbeme
but more importantly make sure salmentions are working fully
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tantek
what happens when you send reacji via salmention? salmojis?
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tantek
sees if snarfed is paying attention
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snarfed
yup, just got back from lunch
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snarfed
studiously ignores the *jis
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ben_thatmustbeme
should reply with a fish reacji that gets salmentioned :P
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ben_thatmustbeme
is there a "salmon" emoji
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Loqi
[indieweb] "IndieWeb Summit" http://2016.indieweb.org/
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Loqi
[indieweb] "IndieWeb Summit" by aaronpk https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11708951
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tantek
what the
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gRegorLove
snarfed: You going to be at the Indieweb Summit?
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snarfed
gRegorLove: sadly no. you?
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tantek
superfeedr is pulling from HN newwest?
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gRegorLove
Ah, darn.
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tantek
s/newwest/newest
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gRegorLove
Yep, I'll be there
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tantek
maybe?
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Loqi
tantek meant to say: s/newest/newest
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tantek
what is salmon?
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Loqi
Salmon is a 2010-era feed-based protocol part of the OStatus stack for sending comment notifications and has been superseded by the use of webmention, h-entry, and in-reply-to building blocks https://indiewebcamp.com/Salmon
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gRegorLove
Does Superfeedr have a way to check if a URL is being polled?
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aaronpk
oh now the HN bots are going to pick it up
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tantek
Loqi, 🐟 or 🎣?
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Loqi
🐟
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aaronpk
wat, since when did Loqi learn how to emoji?
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tantek
thus speaketh Loqithustra
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KartikPrabhu
Loqi, A or B?
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Loqi
i think A
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ben_thatmustbeme
aaronpk: Loqi has begun to learn on its own
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Loqi
woot!
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ben_thatmustbeme
gives Loqi the 3 laws of robotis
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Loqi
laughs at the 3 laws of robotis
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ben_thatmustbeme
gives Loqi the 3 laws of robotics
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ben_thatmustbeme
because its better when you spell them correctly
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Loqi
throws the 3 laws of robotics
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tantek
ben_thatmustbeme: now you've done it.
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aaronpk
wow how much of twitter is just bots tweeting from RSS feeds
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ben_thatmustbeme
i didn't do that!
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tantek
oh yeah, you give Loqi the three laws of robotics, he throws them, and then we get this storm. Coincidence? I think not.
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gRegorLove
Sheesh. That many twitter accounts just tweet new HN threads?
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tantek.com
edited /Salmentions (+83) "emojicon"
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sknebel
there are even many that tweet random HN comments
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sknebel
or reddit comments
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tantek
lots of tweets, no comments yet
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gRegorLove
Imagine if HN had webmentions and tracked how many twitter mentions things got
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aaronpk
"theretweetplace" lol
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hs0ucy
Hi, everybody,
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hs0ucy
Is there a way to POSSE to Diaspora* ?
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Zegnat
I don’t think anyone has built a system that POSSEs to Diaspora. And last I looked, Diaspora does not offer a full API.
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Zegnat
What is Diaspora?
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Loqi
Diaspora (or D*) is an open source project for hosting a social network on your own server that federates with other Diaspora instances, which are called "pods" https://indiewebcamp.com/Diaspora
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Zegnat
Hmm, hs0ucy, POSSE support is only a single line of text :( https://indiewebcamp.com/Diaspora#POSSE_support
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snarfed
hs0ucy Zegnat: more diaspora details in https://github.com/snarfed/bridgy/issues/198
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KevinMarks
🎏 seems salmentiony, as it's 2 fish on a flagpole
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Zegnat
KevinMarks, but those are carps ;)
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KevinMarks
so are lots of web comments
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KevinMarks
lol at fish, tropical fish and blowfish emoji
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hs0ucy
Zegnat, snarfed Thanks
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Zegnat
snarfed: Diaspora does not get out in a positive light from that issue. Might add that to /Diaspora … But first: sleep!
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Zegnat
Have a good morning/day/night all
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jimpick.com
edited /2016/Guest_List (-109) "/* RSVPs */"
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KevinMarks
(amused by how many different fish we get there)
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@jevdemon
Maybe: IndieWeb is one of the most exciting efforts on the web, Hoping to attend this. : http://www.evdemon.org/2016/maybe-indieweb-is-one-of-the-most-exciting-efforts-on
(twitter.com/_/status/732306934615838720)
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ben_thatmustbeme
aaronpk: what parts of salmention does your site handle exactly?
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aaronpk
sending
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aaronpk
i think i lost receiving salmentions in the rebuild
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ben_thatmustbeme
what do you meant by "receiving salmentions" just updating?
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ben_thatmustbeme
does the same
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ben_thatmustbeme
in any case, could you comment on something of mine, that someone else can comment on. I want to confirm that I can parse comments on comments
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GWG
Afternoon
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tantek
basically, if we can demonstrate and record that simple salmentions are already supported interoperably across several implementations, then they get incorporated inline into the Webmention spec (upgrade from the already incorporated by reference) rather than by normative reference. otherwise we make it an informative reference as a Webmention extension, similar to Vouch
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GWG
tantek, what makes a salmention simple @
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tantek
GWG, you'd have to ask someone who has implemented them :)
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GWG
tantek, you used the term
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GWG
I have a proposal to send a webmention every time a comment or webmention is added to a post.
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GWG
That would notify any links of an update.
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aaronpk
GWG: a proposal to wordpress I assume?
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GWG
Proposed commit to Pfefferle.
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aaronpk
ah cool
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aaronpk
i was thinking, if there's a concern about potentially getting stuck sending out too many webmentions, (like if you get a bunch of comments/webmentions received all just seconds apart) then you could add in a sort of rate limit/batch mode, where you only send outgoing mentions every N seconds, as a way to help throttle that
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GWG
I have a second that identifies comments on a webmention source and tries to treat them as webmentions.
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tantek
GWG, voxpelli and I debated that during IWC Düsseldorf, and thanks to aaronpk helping explain the geometric explosion that would occur, I changed my mind and decided it was better to avoid that.
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aaronpk
no, we talked about not sending webmentions *to* the comment URLs, but we still want to send to the URLs that the post originally sent to
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GWG
So, how do you handle it now in theory?
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tantek
aaronpk, could be interesting to see how FB handles that, e.g. on a post that is getting lots of comments, how often does it "update" the "notfiications" globe icon
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GWG
aaronpk, that is what I implemented. It treats a webmention as a page update
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tantek
(re: throttle that)
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GWG
So, couldn't that go in the Webmention specification?
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KevinMarks
hm, did that not woek?
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GWG
That if you display a webmention on a post, that constitutes an update?
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aaronpk
yeah that's the current thought, as long as at least a few people are doing that right now
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Loqi
[Kevin Marks] Yes, the facepalm emoji shows up in android N
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tantek
aaronpk: how do we test that? "at least a few people are doing that right now" ?
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KevinMarks
didn't shwo on aaron's post
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aaronpk
KevinMarks: might take a minute. sometimes webmention.io is slow
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aaronpk
tantek: if someone supports the receiving side of salmentions, then we could see it happening there
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aaronpk
otherwise i think it has to be checked manually
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tantek
right. kylew ? ben_thatmustbeme ?
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tantek
s/kylew/kylewm
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Loqi
tantek meant to say: right. kylewm ? ben_thatmustbeme ?
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GWG
Acegiak sent a PR for Post Kinds that did it, but I decided it was better to do it upstream, but right now anyone who has the stable version of Post Kinds on WordPress is sending
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GWG
So that includes me, acegiak, Chris Aldrich, etc.
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aaronpk
i think the clustering code i wrote for webmention.io is broken. debating ripping it all out and starting over.
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tantek
GWG, interesting, can you try sending and document the results?
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KevinMarks
ben's code supports emoji that don't exist yet, yay
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GWG
tantek, sending what?
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tantek
GWG, you said sending
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Loqi
[Kyle Mahan] I’d like to add support for http://www.emoji-cheat-sheet.com/ to my publishing tools. Wondering what the progressive enhancement-y way is to do that....
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GWG
It sends webmentions for a page on a comment being added.
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KevinMarks
but replying to aaron to get back to the others didn't work
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tantek
... and this is why we test test test
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GWG
I am thinking of taking a break from webmentions. Maybe I will flood snarfed with commits for a bit.
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GWG
I am overdue
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GWG
Not flooding, but l have been trying to get unit tests for a bit.
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Loqi
[Aaron Parecki] There's always :facepalm:
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GWG
And the Webmention ones I am wrote based on webmention.rocks helped me find a bug
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ben_thatmustbeme
or on KevinMarks post, but i think he only salmentions manually
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ben_thatmustbeme
am I correct in that KevinMarks?
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KevinMarks
I did, but it din't work
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KevinMarks
let me try a simple comment
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aaronpk
i hope my webmention receiving isn't broken
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GWG
Well, back to work for me
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aaronpk
hm, i need a new /mentions page
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aaronpk
I am glad I rebuilt my site, but I did lose a few fun pieces of functionality in the process
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KevinMarks
hm, I'm not subscribed toaaron's notes apparently
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aaronpk
well webmention.io doesn't think there's anything there yet either https://webmention.io/api/mentions?target=https://aaronparecki.com/2016/05/16/11/
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KevinMarks
no notes since thursday here? https://aaronparecki.com/notes
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aaronpk
guess not
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aaronpk
was offline most of the weekend
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KevinMarks
ah, replies aren't notes
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aaronpk
and replies don't go on my home page either
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KevinMarks
so, the plaintext note worked
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aaronpk
oh boy
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KevinMarks
and it went up to ben
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Loqi
[Ben Roberts] I still can't believe there is no facepalm emoji
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KevinMarks
but not back up to kyle
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Loqi
[Kyle Mahan] I’d like to add support for http://www.emoji-cheat-sheet.com/ to my publishing tools. Wondering what the progressive enhancement-y way is to do that....
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KevinMarks
so a nesting depth thing?
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aaronpk
so either ben didn't send an update, or kyle didn't display it
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Loqi
[Ben Roberts] I still can't believe there is no facepalm emoji
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aaronpk
weird, why is cloudfront delivering your profile image with the application/octet-stream content type instead of jpeg?
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aaronpk
oh hey there it is
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ben.thatmustbe.me
edited /Salmentions (+105) "/* Ben Roberts */ add link to displayed salmention"
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@m_ott
@aaronpk Hi Aaron, I commented on your logo ideas for #webmention. I just had this idea (MIT), made a rough sketch: https://twitter.com/m_ott/status/732320442120347648/photo/1
(twitter.com/_/status/732320442120347648)
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KevinMarks
though the photo is not shown
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aaronpk
yeah i think i'm removing img tags in comments right now, will have to fix that
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KevinMarks
and it made it up to ben's post too, though again no photo
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KevinMarks
wonder why that one took longer to come through
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KevinMarks
also, some timezone glitches
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aaronpk
not on mine i hope
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KevinMarks
https://ben.thatmustbe.me/note/2016/5/16/2/ has the 1st level comments in ben's timezone time, but the 2nd level in my timezone
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Loqi
[Ben Roberts] I still can't believe there is no facepalm emoji
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aaronpk
kevin's url has +0000 as the timezone offset
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Loqi
[Kyle Mahan] I’d like to add support for http://www.emoji-cheat-sheet.com/ to my publishing tools. Wondering what the progressive enhancement-y way is to do that....
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KevinMarks
timezones--
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Loqi
timezones has -10 karma
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tantek
wonders if he can hack something up using that webmention.io query
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tantek
aaronpk is there a count param or start / pagination param for webmention.io?
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tantek
what is webmention.io?
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Loqi
webmention.io is an open-source project and hosted service for receiving webmentions and pingbacks on behalf of your indieweb site https://indiewebcamp.com/webmention.io
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aaronpk
well that's strange, wonder why only one of kevin's comments is showing up on that webmention.io URL
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aaronpk
begins to to doubt anything is working anymore
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KevinMarks
I messed the link up initially
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KevinMarks
so had to update the photo post
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KevinMarks
so maybe webmention.io was throtlling me?
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[kevinmarks]
Interesting - plaintext format for Screenplays http://fountain.io/syntax
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tantek
I like the way Swarm/Foursquare gamifies checkins and photos of places. I wonder if it could further gamify local distributed information gathering about places, e.g. if you upload a photo of their menu (would need verifying?), you get more points
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@chromakode
So, for the @stupidhackathon I made an app that orders delivery to a random location, and ubers you there...
(twitter.com/_/status/731942777131425792)
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tantek
tries to figure out the indieweb connection
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tantek
gives up but is now hungry.
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aaronpk
mmm dolmas
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tantek
(and he threw some away!!!)
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www.svenknebel.de
edited /Planning (+100) "/* Brighton UK */ sknebel interested, no date preferences yet"
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