#indiewebcamp 2016-03-04

2016-03-04 UTC
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@zpinternational You can only get these at @lex_con at the ZP table / @INC_says from the FB page. #promo #indie #indieweb https://twitter.com/zpinternational/status/705562278800674817/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/705562278800674817)
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@kevinmarks @doctorparadox it is something we're working on with #indieweb, where each post does stand alone, but they get shared to others' sites (twitter.com/_/status/705652172243935232)
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KartikPrabhu what does "community as service" mean? ref: http://indiewebcamp.com/Mightybell
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KartikPrabhu as a fountain pen lover me-self this is pretty inaccurate: http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2016-03-03#t1457036197155
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@voxpelli Want to know how an alternate independent social media might be on the rise + how you can try it? Come to @_FooCafe_ http://www.foocafe.org/event/beyond-twitter-an-indieweb-future-for-social-media (twitter.com/_/status/705677515805822976)
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@_FooCafe_ RT @voxpelli Want to know how an alternate independent social media might be on the rise + how you can try it? Come to @_FooCafe_ http://www.foocafe.org/event/beyond-twitter-an-indieweb-future-for-social-media (twitter.com/_/status/705677815153369088)
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Loqi [indieweb] "A short note about web standards from your friends at Known" by Ben Werdmuller http://stream.withknown.com/2015/a-short-note-about-web-standards-from-your-friends-at
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Loqi [indieweb] "Why we built Known" by Ben Werdmuller http://stream.withknown.com/2015/why-we-built-known
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Loqi [indieweb] "Self-hosted Known 0.8.5 has left the building - with better indieweb, micropub and AMP support." by Ben Werdmuller http://stream.withknown.com/2015/self-hosted-known-085-has-left-the-building---with-better
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@jgmac1106 @RikMende @kevinmarks @davewiner Then Facebook proves its enemy of open web blocking links to competitors: http://techcrunch.com/2016/03/03/instagram-starts-blocking-deeplinking-to-other-social-media-profiles/ #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/705751308045647872)
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Loqi [mention] Tom Alexander commented 'Found it. No idea what this means, though...' on a post https://indiewebcamp.com/Micropub (https://tomalexander.withknown.com/2016/found-it-no-idea-what-this-means-though)
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aaronpk haha that is from https://tomalexander.withknown.com/2016/one-problem-with-known-most-of-its-features-are-very
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Loqi nice
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Loqi [indieweb] "I think the #KnownReactions Plugin from https://kylewm.com should be standard in #Known. It makes likes and retweets possible. #Indieweb" by Georg Kaser https://geor.gs/2016/i-think-the-knownreactions-plugin-from-should-be-standard-in
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Loqi [indieweb] "Repost of Rick Mendes's post on www.rmendes.net" by Georg Kaser https://geor.gs/2016/repost-of-rick-mendess-post-on-wwwrmendesnet-4cd399086a
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Loqi [indieweb] "With #Picasa another hosted service will be closed soon. Time to take control of your content in future! #selfhosted #indieweb #ilovefs" by Georg Kaser https://geor.gs/2016/with-picasa-another-hosted-service-will-be-closed-soon-time
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Loqi [indieweb] "Great list of #selfhosted free web applications! #indieweb" by Georg Kaser https://github.com/Kickball/awesome-selfhosted
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gRegorLove Heh, a webring of internet newsletters: http://internetofnewsletters.com/
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gRegorLove I don't really agree with "They use email. And we don’t get distracted when we read email. So we pay attention to them." but it's still an interesting resurgence of newsletters and webrings.
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gRegorLove What is newsletter?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "newsletter" yet. Would you like to create it? https://indiewebcamp.com/s/10Fo
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gRegorLove What is webring?
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Loqi A webring is a collection of websites linked together in a circular structure https://indiewebcamp.com/webring
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kylewm think that's more a criticism of how cluttered, slow, and ugly the average website is... that you'd rather read an email
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kylewm heh, I didn't mean to send that, accidentally pressed enter instead of delete
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cleverdevil hooray for webring!
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cleverdevil blast from the past :)
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cleverdevil (also, fun bit of trivia... DreamHost's co-founder Sage Weil actually created webring!)
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gRegorLove Hey, cool
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gRegorLove kylewm: Message saved forever!
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gRegorLove Agreed, likely a criticism of that. Also easier for someone to set up a newsletter sans a website at all. They can just use their Twitter and Mailchimp or whatever to send out newsletters.
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gRegorLove I've seen quite a few start up newsletters with https://www.tinyletter.com/
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aaronpk that's actually partly the reason I got rid of my sidebar in my new layout
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sknebel yeah, tinyletter is really common. regularly get travel reports from people through it, simple friends-only "travel blog"
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www.svenknebel.de created /TinyLetter (+315) "Created page with "{{stub}} '''<dfn>[https://tinyletter.com/ TinyLetter]</dfn>''' is a [[silo]] to organize [[email]] newsletters, with an optional blog-like web archive. Sometimes used as a simpl..."" (view diff)
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aaronpk is it no longer possible to add location to an instagram post without also choosing a venue?
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Loqi Just generated this week's newsletter! You still have a few minutes to make changes, and I'll re-generate it 10 minutes before it gets sent out at 2pm. http://indiewebcamp.com/this-week/2016-02-19.html
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aaronpk wrong link again Loqi
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aaronpk http://indiewebcamp.com/this-week/2016-03-04.html
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Loqi Just generated this week's newsletter! You still have a few minutes to make changes, and I'll re-generate it 10 minutes before it gets sent out at 2pm. http://indiewebcamp.com/this-week/2016-02-19.html
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Loqi [indieweb] "Comment on Post Kinds Improvements by Matt" by Matt https://david.shanske.com/2015/12/13/post-kinds-improvements/#comment-2198
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rMdes bleh, "google posts" now https://www.google.com/posts/ is that for the P letter of the Alphabet ?
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aaronpk whaaaat
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rMdes not sure what these things are going to be, but it seems G is allowing US pres candidates to directly push content tied to their candidate name...
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aaronpk "posts will appear instantly in search results related to the candidate"
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aaronpk with built-in POSSE: "Each post can also be shared on popular social networks, amplifying the message even further."
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aaronpk well, more like POGSSE
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aaronpk "publish on google's site, syndicate elsewhere"
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rMdes http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2016/03/google-posts-embeds-a-one-way-social-network-directly-into-search-results/
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@indiewebcamp This week in the #indieweb https://indiewebcamp.com/this-week/2016-03-04.html (twitter.com/_/status/705875471444025345)
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gRegorLove Just what I want to see online, more crap from political candidates.
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@RikMende RT @indiewebcamp This week in the #indieweb https://indiewebcamp.com/this-week/2016-03-04.html (twitter.com/_/status/705879551503699969)
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@RikMende RT @withknown On the east coast? Believe in an open web? Indie Web Camp MIT is coming up on March 14th: http://indiewebcamp.com/2016/MIT #indieweb #edtech (twitter.com/_/status/705879626749452288)
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@AaronGustafson @radiomorillo I have some stuff for webmentions too if you’re interested. (twitter.com/_/status/705892130166800390)
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sknebel does anyone here use Mandrill (the e-mail service)?
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sknebel they axed their free tier and I want to update the wiki, but if someone is going through that right now they might know more
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sknebel (was free up to 12k mails, now it is 30$ per month minimum)
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aaronpk wow, I hadn't heard. I've been using mailgun
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www.svenknebel.de edited /email (+318) "/* Mandrill */ not free anymore" (view diff)
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sknebel ok, I greyed out a large section describing setup that might/might not be correct anymore. didn't want to throw it away yet in case someone can fix it
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sknebel the entire mail-as-a-service section could do with an update/extension anyways (e.g. mailgun is listed as an option for inbound, but they do sending as well
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