#indiewebcamp 2015-12-25

2015-12-25 UTC
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GWG
I wonder if there is a danger in living in the p3k api space
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GWG
Putting too many eggs into aaronpk's basket
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KartikPrabhu
GWG: you canhost the Telegraph code yourself
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GWG
Good point
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aaronpk
it's also really just a fancy wrapper around the mention-client-php library, which Known is using :)
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GWG
KartikPrabhu, anything new going on with you?
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KartikPrabhu
aaronpk++ for telegraph
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Loqi
aaronpk has 41 karma
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GWG
aaronpk, I was considering using Atlas during my next geolocation iteration
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KartikPrabhu
GWG: not on the indieweb front. Have been busy with IRL work
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aaronpk
you can also host that one yourself . it doesn't even require a database
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GWG
I'm sure that the secrets of the universe top Indieweb.
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KartikPrabhu
though I am taking a break and writing an article this evening
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GWG
Tomorrow is a big day for physics.
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tantek
GWG ;)
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GWG
Isaac Newton's birthday
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KartikPrabhu
aah yes of course
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GWG
I celebrate it every year
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GWG
For me tomorrow is a big Indieweb day.
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GWG
Tonight, I continue my time based improvements to include duration.
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GWG
Tomorrow, I present media
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tantek
GWG I look forward to how you present duration and media
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tantek
since I just barely got /video posts working myself, I am interested in improving my own media/duration presentation
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GWG
For now, the simplest way I can before 2016
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tantek
still has a few more videos to post from EPCOT
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GWG
Well, this is passive posting. As in listen, jam, watch, etc.
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tantek
GWG, I still look forward to it! Especially if you've figured out good plain text design for it.
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GWG
Working on it.
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GWG
was wondering
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GWG
about apis for media data to enhance the presentation
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GWG
But I'm nowhere near ready for that
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GWG
Hmmm... idea coming
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GWG
Does anyone mark up movies, books, music, etc with microformats?
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KartikPrabhu
GWG: not yet. But i'd like to move my book reviews from Goodreads
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GWG
I have a design problem I have to work with
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KartikPrabhu
GWG: better to solve problems for which you have actual examples rather than designing for possible future situations that you can only guess at
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tantek
KartikPrabhu++ right on.
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Loqi
KartikPrabhu has 123 karma
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GWG
I'm not designing for future solutions. The future is adding things automatically. I always start with manual planning.
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KartikPrabhu
what is twitter
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Loqi
Twitter (also known as Twitter.com) is a popular content hosting silo most well known for 140 character text notes https://indiewebcamp.com/Twitter
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kylewm
aaronpk: is Telegraph doing anything with async status urls yet?
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aaronpk
it logs them, but i haven't made it check for updates yet
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aaronpk
the plan is to make it check them for updates, and send the callback URL a notification when the status changes
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kylewm
should I file an issue to check for rel=status in the body of the response :)
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aaronpk
heh sure
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aaronpk
you want to return that instead of an http header?
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kylewm
I can return an http header, but right now I don't
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aaronpk
I'm gonna write this up as a proper extension, but I was thinking it makes sense for the endpoint to return "HTTP 202 Accepted" if there is no status URL, and "HTTP 201 Created" with the status URL in the Location header
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@rida_shah
RT tedcurran: The #openweb is better than your silo, Ev http://scripting.com/liveblog/users/davewiner/2015/12/24/0703.html #WordPress #blogging #indieweb
(twitter.com/_/status/680436969344790528)
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GWG
I do not understand emoji
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[snarfed]
KevinMarks speaking of which, we should lobby ben_thatmustbeme to support your quote tweet reacji now that bridgy is backfeeding them!
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[snarfed]
kylewm++ again for that
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Loqi
kylewm has 279 karma
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GWG
what is reacji?
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Loqi
reacji is an emoji reaction, the use of a single emoji character in response to a post, introduced as a feature by Slack[1] https://indiewebcamp.com/reacji
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GWG
Hello snarfed
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tantek
what is tweet reacji?
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Loqi
It looks like we don't have a page for "tweet reacji" yet. Would you like to create it? https://indiewebcamp.com/s/10AM
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tantek
tweet reacji is /reacjweet
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loqi.me
created /tweet_reacji (+22) "prompted by tantek https://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2015-12-25/line/1451072818742 and dfn added by tantek"
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tantek
KevinMarks: FWIW, a preselected menu of choices (emoji or not) is very different from any arbitrary emoji character.
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tantek
both uber's happy meh sad faces, and FB's "six new reactions" are not really reacji (certainly not semantically), no more than LiveJournal's set of moods was reacji.
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tantek
and FWIW the "Path" app has had a handful of reactions represented by a small number of emoji-like faces since 2012: http://techcrunch.com/2015/10/08/with-reactions-facebook-supercharges-the-like-button-with-6-empathetic-emoji/
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tantek
so this notion is neither new, nor is it emoji
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@RikMende
RT @jkphl: is extremely happy to announce that @openSUSE will sponsor the @indiewebcamp #Nuremberg 2016 📅 Details TBA shortly 👉 https://t.c…
(twitter.com/_/status/680518971376955393)
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[shaners]
!tell gwg will you add markup examples of this to the wiki page please. <http://indiewebcamp.com/WordPress_hentry_problem
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Loqi
Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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Schnitz
Hey there... this is awesome. Just learned today about IndieWebCamp. Will join and build my own Indie Web Site as of now... Hi everyone, this is great, finally something is happening, keep it up, I hate Silos :-)
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KartikPrabhu
Schnitz: welcome. "hate" is not the right word. We all still use silos but we post to our sites first and then copy it over to Twitter etc...
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Schnitz
KartikPrabhu: No worries, I know. Still I hate what happened to the Web. No offense. Tantek is right, its about user experience, and we all got it wrong back then. Its my fault too. Still I very much regret where we are today. 'I hate the situation', willing to do something to help change that, as far as I can...
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GWG
Good evening
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Loqi
GWG: [shaners] left you a message 33 minutes ago: will you add markup examples of this to the wiki page please. <http://indiewebcamp.com/WordPress_hentry_problem http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2015-12-25/line/1451083418949
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KartikPrabhu
Schnitz: if you use Twitter, a good start is to post notes on your own site and POSSE them
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KartikPrabhu
what is POSSE?
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Loqi
POSSE is an abbreviation for Publish (on your) Own Site, Syndicate Elsewhere, a content publishing model that starts with posting content on your own domain first, then syndicating out copies to 3rd party services with permashortlinks back to the original on your site https://indiewebcamp.com/POSSE
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Schnitz
I know what POSSE is, but thanks for the help. Nice IRC system BTW
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KartikPrabhu
that's all aaronpk
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Schnitz
I don't use twitter BTW
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GWG
Schnitz: What do you use?
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Schnitz
tumblr only right now. And email of course
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GWG
Schnitz: What do you think you want to do first?
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Schnitz
Meet Tantek over a drink... haha :-)
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Loqi
rofl
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Schnitz
GWG: no... well I actually already got belp.audio as a domain for my tumblr
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GWG
Interesting. Do you live close enough for that to work?
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Schnitz
and I like tumblr (a bit) since it has absolute URL for each post
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GWG
I know plenty of people who do.
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Schnitz
I will make belp.audio an indepedent site that then syndicates to tumblr
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GWG
I'm a longstanding WordPress person.
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Schnitz
no I live in Munich
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Schnitz
Europe
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GWG
I know of it. He seems to get around a lot though.
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Schnitz
No worries, I'll bump into him sometime again...
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Schnitz
No I'm not even going to use wordpress
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Schnitz
I'll try any code as much as I can with static HTML pages and JS and see where I end up
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GWG
Schnitz: Lots of people use static pages. I just said that I use WordPress. It isn't for everyone.
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Schnitz
GWG: of course, I didn't get u wrong
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Schnitz
Hey Tantek
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Schnitz
Got == Good
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tantek
reads logs
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Schnitz
still smoke, off to buy some cigarettes at the gas station, be back in 10 mins...