#indiewebcamp 2015-11-01

2015-11-01 UTC
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bear interesting "feature" trying to debug my h-feed with woodwind - it seems to cache the feed name
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bear so I don't see a way for me to test/discover if I have fixed my feed name formatting :/
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bear.im edited /User:Bear.im (-49) "updating job info" (view diff)
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@dvg RT @diplix: nerdkram, #indieweb-gedöns, das wieder niemanden interessiert — aber mich! http://wirres.net/article/articleview/8737/1/6/ (twitter.com/_/status/660748388372189184)
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@anachorete RT @diplix: nerdkram, #indieweb-gedöns, das wieder niemanden interessiert — aber mich! http://wirres.net/article/articleview/8737/1/6/ (twitter.com/_/status/660753224731860992)
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tantek Interesting criticism of Tumblr - especially reagarding comment handling: http://blog.dearcoquette.com/coke-talk-of-the-day-76/ - particularly interesting in that we've often held-up Tumblr as an example of good/simple blogging service UX.
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Loqi tantek: [shaners] left you a message on 10/31 at 7:45am: looks to me like your homepage doesn't have your latest note/s. Namely your iwc one. http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2015-10-31/line/1446302711613
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tantek "I technically had comments before, but interesting discussions inevitably peeled off into reblog oblivion.)"
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tantek !tell shaners no idea what you're talking about. what note (permalink?) are you talking about as missing from my homepage?
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell him that when I see him next
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tantek interesting critique / vulnerability of silos in general (beyond Twitter) https://medium.com/bad-words/why-twitter-s-dying-and-what-you-can-learn-from-it-9ed233e37974
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M-kegan Interesting read, but that article isn't specific to silos though.
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Loqi M-kegan: tantek left you a message on 9/29 at 11:11am: I agree /checkin is challenging in many ways (UI, representation etc.) hence have not included it in the current (first) explicit version of Post Type Discovery. Feedback welcome! https://indiewebcamp.com/post-type-discovery http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2015-09-29/line/1443550286530
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M-kegan Ah yes, the post type discovery stuff.
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M-kegan Without rehashing the fundamental disagreement I have with discovery, why do we even have types at all? iirc it was for Aaron's use case of "searching for types of posts". Why can't these searches be based on the content (keys) instead?
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M-kegan I think there was also a case for supporting other formats which demand a type is specified too, which then feels like an impedance mismatch between all the formats
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@raretrack Removed all of my photos from #GooglePhotos - another small step to owning my data. Flickr may be more problematical! #ownyourdata #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/660786323775557632)
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petermolnar.eu edited /Snapchat (+602) "/* Criticism */" (view diff)
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snarfed been gradually cranking through bridgy bugs for the last couple months...almost all of them are fixed now!
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snarfed https://github.com/snarfed/bridgy/issues?q=is%3Aopen+is%3Aissue+label%3Anow
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snarfed and behind me: https://github.com/snarfed/bridgy/issues?q=is%3Aissue+label%3Anow+is%3Aclosed
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snarfed plenty of feature requests remaining, and a few rare bugs, but i'm looking forward to doing something else for a while :P
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Tino :)
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GWG snarfed: Congratulations
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Tino Impressive list snarfed
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snarfed evidently i generate lots of bugs :P
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[shaners] !tell Tantek. Weird. Its not not there now. I think there was a ghost in my machine and I was seeing an older note in my RSS reader somehow. Then it wasn't on to of your homepage. Thus the confusion. Never mind!
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Loqi [shaners]: tantek left you a message 3 hours, 53 minutes ago: no idea what you're talking about. what note (permalink?) are you talking about as missing from my homepage? http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2015-11-01/line/1446374172992
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GWG snarfed: There is a solution for that
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snarfed static analysis?
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GWG I was going to go with unit tests, but you ruined my joke.
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snarfed i tend to do that
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snarfed unit tests definitely do prevent lots of bugs! sadly not all though
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snarfed i'm curious now though, let's go count...
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GWG I've had something infiltrate one of my sites. I have to clean the server
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snarfed :( security is hard
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GWG Especially when I host for a few other people.
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snarfed done counting. including granary and o-d, bridgy has 696 unit tests
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GWG snarfed: Attempt at humor ruined
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snarfed my work here is done!
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snarfed now to check coverage
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snarfed looks like cumulative is ~93%
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bear snarfed++ for bug hunt and code coverage in the 90+ range
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Loqi snarfed has 157 karma
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snarfed thanks bear
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@raretrack Just finished migrating all of my bookmarked articles from the silo of #Evernote into my own @withknown site #ownyourdata #indieweb #known (twitter.com/_/status/660830547871068162)
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raretrack and i still always get surprised when my tweets appear here almost instantly, even though i know they will!
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voxpelli snarfed++ for bug hunting!
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Loqi snarfed has 158 karma
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voxpelli the thing I love the most with automated tests are to make a test that reproduces a bug and then work until that test passes
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voxpelli fixing a bug once can be pretty okay, but fixing the same bug twice is not very fun
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snarfed hell yes
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snarfed that's the right pattern!
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raretrack.uk created /User:Raretrack.uk (+1162) "Starting my page" (view diff)
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tinokremer.nl edited /Known (-7) "/* IndieWeb Examples */" (view diff)
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GWG Hmmm...Google launches Who's Down to see when your friends are willing to hang out. I feel like rolling my eyes.
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tantek I think you should go ahead and do it :)
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GWG rolls eyes
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tantek :D
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GWG tantek: You down with that?
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tantek I'm down for rolling eyes ;)
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tantek Also - IWC MIT this weekend!!! Get Psyched!!!
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GWG I'm hoping I can sit in a chair all day by then
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tantek GWG - post on Who's Down (whatever that means) - for IWC MIT
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GWG I had a relapse of my condition
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tantek oh that reminds me
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GWG And someone hacked some sites on my server
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GWG Have to clean them out
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tantek ugh
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tantek !tell shaners btw speaking of your inspired by example, assuming you did link to your inspiration for your mixtapes, you may want to consider some sort of NSFW warning, which we could document too.
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell him that when I see him next
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[shaners] tantek: are you suggesting NSFW on my site or in this channel?
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Loqi [shaners]: tantek left you a message 11 minutes ago: btw speaking of your inspired by example, assuming you did link to your inspiration for your mixtapes, you may want to consider some sort of NSFW warning, which we could document too. http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2015-11-01/line/1446399332473
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tantek shaners, curious what you think of either / both
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tantek personal / community distinction and all
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[shaners] I will happily (start to) label things in the channel as nsfw in the future (or try to avoid posting it in here altogether). But I’m not at all interested in labeling things on my site as nsfw.
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GWG But shaners...think of the children. (Kidding)
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[shaners] Kids aren’t at work typically, right? :wink:
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tantek shaners - cool - yeah I think that's probably a good policy for the channel - I think people do expect to check it at work - also curious if you think it has implications for /code-of-conduct etc. (safe space and all that)
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kevinmarks I did wonder if I need a NIPSA for svgur.com to filter the homepage
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[shaners] tantek: I kinda forgot about the rest of CQ’s homepage when I linked to her Mixtapes section. (And other people’s filter for what’s "work safe”). But I’ll pay more attention to that.
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tantek shaners - I didn't even need to click anywhere to reflexively close the page while "at work" in W3C meetings. images even above the fold.
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tantek (on a macbook air 11")
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kevinmarks https://medium.com/@johnbattelle/blogging-meet-medium-please-procreate-aa2776b3ebfb#.4vzvkwmar
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[shaners] tantek: My link to CQ maybe falls in violation of the CoC’s “Be considerate”?
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Loqi [mention] Kyle Mahan commented 'I’m polling myself to see what my itches are for my site, and privacy’s the big one right now … probably because impending life-circumstance...' on a post that linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/private-webmention (https://kylewm.com/2015/11/thinking-about-friends-only-posts)
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@misuba @JmacDotOrg you could start taking on indieweb stuff... comments and mentions (and likes!) that live on the commenters' sites, etc. (twitter.com/_/status/660930141757935616)
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@brennannovak @zooko I archive all my tweets locally + federate most posts (such as: http://bnvk.me/w29) using #IndieWeb POSSE @wiretapped (twitter.com/_/status/660951252231131136)
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@brennannovak @zooko I highly suggest checking out http://IndieWebCamp.com and indiewebify.me which helps make a blog / site compatible @wiretapped (twitter.com/_/status/660951708365930496)
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