#indiewebcamp 2015-10-28

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@abela_here justoneindie: https://www.youtube.com/ RT IndieAuthorNews: Just released: TOP 50 INDIE BOOKS - OCTOBER 2015 (Readers' Choice) on Indie Auth… (twitter.com/_/status/659160177434841088)
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aaronpk gah should have taken a screenshot! i saw an event in my facebook home timeline and now i can't get it to come back
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[shaners] aaronpk: Try this: https://www.facebook.com/events/upcoming
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tantek oops
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tantek.com edited /Template:rhiaro (+10) "Reverted edits by [[Special:Contributions/Tantek.com|Tantek.com]] ([[User talk:Tantek.com|talk]]) to last revision by [[User:Rhiaro.co.uk|Rhiaro.co.uk]]" (view diff)
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[shaners] Goodnight (EST), all!
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Loqi don't let the bed bugs bite
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singpolyma.net edited /GNU_social (-41) "Move old history information down the page a bit. The relevant information (that the project used to be called StatusNet) is part of the summary at the top still." (view diff)
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singpolyma.net edited /GNU_social (+219) "/* Open Questions */ Describe how to put profile info into an Atom feed for GNU Social consumption" (view diff)
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singpolyma.net edited /GNU_social (+295) "/* Open Questions */ Mention hCard support" (view diff)
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aaronpk oh boy i just realized i'm already going to have to redo a whole chunk of my new site when i add checkins
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@pwcc @GaryPendergast @SlackHQ My inner indieweb type worries we've got another Github on our hands. Single points of failure are handy, though. (twitter.com/_/status/659208511792902145)
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aaronpk i'm really setting myself up for quite the migration challenge with stuff like this https://aaronparecki.com/replies/2015/10/27/1/
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aaronpk a reply to a post on werd.io that is also an rsvp-no to an eventbrite url
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kylewm I really want to go to that talk
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aaronpk me too
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aaronpk i'm guessing the short version is that supporting people who won't pay you is a great way to get distracted from focusing on the business
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aaronpk but i would love to hear ben's take on it
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tantek.com edited /Main_Page (+13) "/* Beyond Blogging and Decentralization */ protocols second too" (view diff)
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tantek snarfed, kylewm found a Bridgy Publish bug the very first time I used it to POSSE a photo post to Twitter: https://twitter.com/t/status/659200761427980288
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@t https://instagram.com/p/9XVBIRA9cj/Social Web session @W3C #TPAC2015 in Sapporo, Hokkaido, Japan. (http://tantek.com/2015/300/t1/social-web-session-w3c-tpac2015) (twitter.com/_/status/659200761427980288)
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tantek Note the "/Social Web" - that should be "/ Social Web", and there's a return (cr) in the original that somehow Bridgy Publish removed, and thus errantly appended "Social" to the end of that IG URL
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snarfed tantek: apologies! agreed. whitespace handling, whee. sounds like the problem is in html2text or nearby
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snarfed mind filing?
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tantek will do!
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tantek figures I'd trip something my first try ;)
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tantek snarfed, kylewm done! https://github.com/snarfed/bridgy/issues/530
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tantek.com created /annotation-use-cases (+1125) "stub based on session and links to indieweb equivalents" (view diff)
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kevinmarks https://twitter.com/gigasquid/status/659160302198616064
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@gigasquid Me in a new codebase https://vine.co/v/e0BYUwAvZPF (twitter.com/_/status/659160302198616064)
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tantek.com edited /annotation-use-cases (+15) "date, linky" (view diff)
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tantek kevinmarks: was that meant for #indiechat?
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kevinmarks yes
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kevinmarks acegiak: is this a chicken checkin? http://acegiak.net/2015/10/28/16290/
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tantek.com edited /Events (+380) "TPAC2015 Social Web to recent events" (view diff)
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petermolnar I've found a solution for my photo vs article tell-apart issue from yesterday: I do set a article character limit to separate short/long, but in case it fall to photo identification, compare the text difference percentage between the post content and the photo description, coming from IPTC data; if it's within a certain range ( 'cause I do copy the IPTC data as post content by hand when posting a photo ), I can assume it's a photo post
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Loqi Welcome, indie-visitor! Set your nickname by typing /nick yourname
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snarfed TIL that modern unicode domain names are case insensitive just like old school ascii domain names
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snarfed so that's fun
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@LanceCoyote I should look into Gitweb or maybe Django-Git so I can self-host my repos. #IndieWeb (twitter.com/_/status/659388780705529857)
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michel_v n/w 4
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snarfed bingo!
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ben_thatmustbeme So, i got a new phone which meant having to set up mobilepub on my new phone, which i quickly realized is sort of broken for me
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ben_thatmustbeme so i have a new idea
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ben_thatmustbeme instead of doing indieauth on my phone, possibly indieauth on a website and generate a QR code to get data to the phone
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ben_thatmustbeme basically put the URL and auth key in the qr code
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aaronpk nice
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aaronpk is that easier because you don't have to fiddle with phone code as much to do it?
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aaronpk (after i launch my new site my next thing is probably gonna be making an ios micropub client)
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@amblin @benwerd Dreaming of this since, blogs->diaspora->https://t.co/MvIX8lkx5c->pump.io->indieweb->?? (twitter.com/_/status/659394436137418752)
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ben_thatmustbeme yeah, so on android at least, when launching a browser window inside an app, its totally insulated, so no saved passwords, you have to log in manually to whatever site you are using via typing in info on phone keyboard
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ben_thatmustbeme which is annoying
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aaronpk ah yeah, iOS 9 finally fixed that
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ben_thatmustbeme i mean its a tough line, i think it should be there for security
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aaronpk totally
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aaronpk the iOS 9 fix is pretty good
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ben_thatmustbeme and you can always launch a browser in a new window, but it wouldn't capture the URL then
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ben_thatmustbeme at least not without registering a new protocol to handle which gets way messier
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aaronpk are there good QR code libraries for android?
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ben_thatmustbeme oh yes
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aaronpk i haven't checked what it would take to add a QR code scanner to an iOS app
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ben_thatmustbeme i need to double check, but it might be a simple plug in to phonegap to add it
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aaronpk ah phonegap
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ben_thatmustbeme http://www.sitepoint.com/scanning-qr-code-cordova/
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ben_thatmustbeme quite straight forward
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ben_thatmustbeme at least at first glance
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aaronpk fun
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aaronpk you know... that seems like something possibly worth adding to indieauth.com
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aaronpk redirect_uri=qrcode
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ben_thatmustbeme hmmm
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aaronpk instead of redirecting to an http endpoint, it just displays the QR code
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ben_thatmustbeme ideallly it should still get the app's URL though
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aaronpk this is also similar to the out-of-band oauth you see on apple TV when signing in to a cable service provider
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aaronpk it's usually done with a 6-digit code, which frankly might be way easier
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ben_thatmustbeme hmm, have to think exactly how that would work
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ben_thatmustbeme yeah, may be better to do that
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ben_thatmustbeme would make for a lot of possibility for embedded devices and for cosole stuff that really has a hard time doing indieauth itself
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aaronpk benefit of the qr code is the code can encode the auth server to use, whereas the 6-digit code would need to hard-code the auth server
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ben_thatmustbeme i think the only way someone did it for CLI was to launch a web service that could catch some specific URL etc
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ben_thatmustbeme aaronpk: why? assuming i put in my URL first
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ben_thatmustbeme i know the auth server
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aaronpk oh I thought you were starting on the desktop
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ben_thatmustbeme well, either should work i suppose
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ben_thatmustbeme you are right, in that case
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ben_thatmustbeme i'm getting too many ideas now
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aaronpk i don't like writing code for phones so i prefer to offload as much to the desktop as possible ;)
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aaronpk but that's just me
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ben_thatmustbeme thats why i went with cordova... its just writing JS and html5
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ben_thatmustbeme :D
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ben_thatmustbeme what if my app had its own site
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aaronpk yeah that'd be fine. that's the "hard coding" i was talking about
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ben_thatmustbeme want to log in ? enter your URL or do it at myapp.example.com
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ben_thatmustbeme yeah, so it hard codes the companion site, not like an auth server
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ben_thatmustbeme i think thats fine
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aaronpk yeah
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aaronpk i also just think it'd be cool to be able to make a mobile app that doesn't require a server component
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kylewm is https://indiewebcamp.com/post-type-discovery#Algorithm intended to only apply to h-entry objects? like an h-event would be orthogonal?
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aaronpk that's a great question
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@EndyaAintShit Working on a webseries yall go check out the teaser for the pilot 👉 https://www.youtube.com/ 👈 #BlackArt #IndieArt #IndieFilm #IndieWeb (twitter.com/_/status/659403203344076800)
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kylewm it would also be useful to know if an h-card represents a person or location
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aaronpk i was thinking about that
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aaronpk and then i kept thinknig about it
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aaronpk and then i was thinking why does it actually matter
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kylewm :)
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aaronpk when it comes down to it, it turns out computers don't need to know/model the full depth of types of objects in order for the information to still be useful to people reading it
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kylewm yeah you're right I think. it's useful for me to know if something is an event, but i don't much care if an h-card is a person/location/corporation/etc.
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aaronpk the difference between an event and an h-card is important because the software will display them totally differently
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aaronpk but that's not really a distinction based on the type of the object so much as based on what properties it has
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@RikMende Wondering how would play out with #indieweb #tsuco or if it would at all not become just .. http://www.rmendes.net/2015/wondering-how-would-play-out-with-indieweb-tsuco-or-if (twitter.com/_/status/659419134023725056)
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kevinmarks a person vs location heuristic is does name=org
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[shaners] I’m adding Pages to Homesteading now. Pages almost identical to Articles. Just not in the timestream. Duh. We all know and agree on that. (I think.)
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aaronpk i decided to not even have a distinction between pages and articles
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[shaners] My question for y’all is do you think that Pages should have an `in-reply-to` field on them? [ ] yes [ ] no [ ] it’s complicated [ ] _______
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aaronpk my answer is stop thinking about explicit post types
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@RikMende not sure why but POSSEing with @withknown seems to be "broken" ie: http://www.rmendes.net/2015/updated-my-withknown-indieweb-trying-to-figure-out-inconsistency-when #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/659427119437598720)
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[shaners] Pages and posts get different URL structures.
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aaronpk basically i now have a "post" object, which can have either text/plain or text/html content type, and can have a bunch of properties like in-reply-to. i can also set a custom URL for any post
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[shaners] Post: /yyyy/mm/dd/slug vs Page: /slug
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aaronpk all posts can appear in any feeds, feeds are not restricted to an artificial post type
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[shaners] My `/resume` is a good example
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aaronpk now my posts can have a custom slug like /resume and then all of a sudden it *looks* like a page
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aaronpk i even support multiple slashes in the slug, so you can do /projects/foo
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[shaners] True. But I don’t want my `/resume` or `/about-me` or `/contact` showing up in any feed.
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aaronpk then don't put them in the feed
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aaronpk deciding what goes into feeds does not need to be tied to the post type
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[shaners] If they’re Articles, they go to the feed.
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@RikMende @znmeb @semil you can still use @withknown to POSSE your content to these silo networks https://indiewebcamp.com/POSSE (twitter.com/_/status/659428061914468352)
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[shaners] So, back to my actual question. Do you think Pages (like resume, about, contact, etc) should have an `in-reply-to` field?
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aaronpk yes, by proxy of pages not being their own post type ;)
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[shaners] Shush your face! :stuck_out_tongue:
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[shaners] In p3k with your custom slugs on Posts, do you have a bit that can say “don’t show this post in the feed”?
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aaronpk yeah, basically there's a property on each post that says what feeds it should go into
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[shaners] Do you manually set that for each post everytime?
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aaronpk nope, i have some filters that set them based on what is in the post
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[shaners] Ok
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[shaners] So, with the case of your /resume pseudo-article as page, what in that post would keep it out of the feed?
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aaronpk haven't thought through the UI for creating "pages" yet, but worst case it gets auto-added and then I remove it
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[shaners] Ok
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[shaners] I want to avoid that
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aaronpk oh, well one thing that could trigger it to not appear in the feed is the fact that i'd be setting the custom slug when writing the page
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[shaners] You can can my explicit post types when you pry them from my cold dead hands! :stuck_out_tongue:
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[shaners] Is that always true?
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aaronpk [shaners]: you say that now, but my bets are in 2 years you'll end up rewriting again to remove explicit post types
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aaronpk it's always true for me since i don't publish articles with an absolute slug
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[shaners] if custom slug, then keep outta feed ?
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aaronpk yeah i think that makes sense
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[shaners] aaronpk: Wanna make a long bet? Loser buys winner dinner?
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singpolyma "basically there's a property on each post that says what feeds it should go into" -- like a post type? ;)
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aaronpk singpolyma: no
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aaronpk since i publish posts into multiple feeds
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aaronpk if I publish a post that has a walking route, it goes into both the 'transport' and 'health' feeds
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[shaners] Sounds like a tag to me.
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aaronpk yeah kinda like a tag
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[shaners] Well, two tags.
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kevinmarks so how is that different form category/tag
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kevinmarks heh
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[shaners] In HS land, there are effectively three feeds:
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aaronpk it's very similar to tags interally, but different presentation and different UI for setting them
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[shaners] - composite (homepage) feed
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[shaners] - post type specific feed (/photos, /notes, etc)
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[shaners] - tag feeds (also composite) (/tags/health, /tags/food, etc)
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[shaners] Each post is responsible for its presentation and UI (reading and writing)
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aaronpk yeah i have that as well, except my top-level feeds like /photos are not based on an explicit type
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aaronpk basically that is one of the major limitations of my current site that is driving this whole rebuild
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[shaners] what goes into /photos for you that’s not a Photo post?
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aaronpk it's more the other way. a "reply" post might go into /photos if it has a photo
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aaronpk also not all posts that have photos will go into /photos
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[shaners] anything can be a “reply"
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aaronpk so you must not have an explicit "reply" post type
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[shaners] Correct
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aaronpk the point stands though. I want to be able to be choosier about what goes into feeds beyond just what post type they are
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[shaners] No doubt.
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[shaners] Sounds like you and I have opposite directions of doing this.
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[shaners] For you, as I understand it, Posts are Publishers to N feeds.
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[shaners] For me, Feeds are Subscribers to N posts.
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[shaners] Does that sound accurate ish?
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aaronpk i suppose so
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[shaners] ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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[shaners] I mean, at the end of the day, we’re each building our own things and don’t have to agree on All Of The Things™.
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aaronpk i am just trying to save you a headache down the road ;)
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[shaners] That’s sweet of you.
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kylewm actually I'm kind of surprised that you (aaronpk) are the big proponent of implicit types, it seems like you have the most to gain from explicit with all the different metrics and stuff you track
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aaronpk i'm all for explicitly attaching things to posts, but that's different from post types
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kylewm sure, composition over inheritance
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aaronpk yep
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aaronpk also makes my rendering easier
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kylewm so an article can have a biking route in it, do you just render that like an inline image?
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aaronpk yeah basically it would appear underneath the article content
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aaronpk but i don't really have an explicit concept of articles anyway
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aaronpk i have posts that have a name and html content
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[shaners] Sounds more WordPress and less Tumblr to me.
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[shaners] And I like Tumblr’s model better.
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aaronpk 2 years until shaners: how's that explicit post typing working out for you?
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Loqi I added a countdown scheduled for 10/28 11:26am (#5731)
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kevinmarks http://idlewords.com/images/web_pyramid.jpg
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[shaners] To be clear, aaronpk, I’ve had explicit post typing since May 2010. And I’m still happy with it. It might just be a matter of preference.
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[shaners] And mental models
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[shaners] aaronpk: long bet for dinner?
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aaronpk heh sure
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[shaners] aaronpk: In two years, if I’ve rebuilt, am rebuilding, or want to rebuild HS to remove explicit post types, I will buy you dinner. If not, you’ll buy me dinner. Deal?
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aaronpk deal
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@veganstraightedge #indieweb #longbet with @aaronpk: In 2 years, will @HomesteadingIO have explicit post types? - No: I buy dinner. - Yes: He buys dinner. (twitter.com/_/status/659437923310399492)
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[shaners] Now the world knows too. :smile:
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@aaronpk RT @veganstraightedge: #indieweb #longbet with @aaronpk: In 2 years, will @HomesteadingIO have explicit post types? - No: I buy dinner. … (twitter.com/_/status/659438065069395968)
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aaronpk and it's on my site now too http://aaronparecki.com/notes/2015/10/28/1/
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[shaners] Dang. My laptop battery just died. I'll have to update my site when I get to Atlanta in an hour or so.
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[shaners] Which is the main reason I'm re/building HS proper. So I can post for real. Not this wacky set of scripts that I have to do now.
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kevinmarks I think I just invented the tweetpollstorm https://twitter.com/kevinmarks/status/659438606386237440
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@kevinmarks Lets see if we can add some nuance here. Twitter is (twitter.com/_/status/659438606386237440)
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kevinmarks also, hashtags in poll answers aren't indexed
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kylewm twitters what you make of it, twitters what you make of it, ba-by
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@RikMende @shifted this might Interest you too https://snarfed.org/easy-indieweb-interactions-on-android but not sure if working @withknown (twitter.com/_/status/659455412937367552)
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singpolyma has there been talk about an indie-action or similar for 'follow' ?
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voxpelli singpolyma: yes, I know at least one has implemented it
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voxpelli basically it would follow the same style as the rest, just with "follow" as the key instead
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kylewm what is follow?
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Loqi follow is a common button in silo UIs (like Twitter) that adds updates from that profile (typically a person) to the stream shown in an integrated reader, and sometimes creates a follow post either in the follower's stream ("… followed …" or "… is following …") thus visible to their followers, and/or in the notifications of the user being followed ("… followed you") https://indiewebcamp.com/follow
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kylewm singpolyma^
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kevinmarks hm, can I map that to woodwind's subscribe?
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singpolyma ok, neat. I'm still very dubious about indie-action markup, but that looks maybe useful
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kylewm kevinmarks: sure, you should be able to indie-config follow: "https://reader.kylewm.com/subscribe?origin={url}"
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kevinmarks who's got the follow markup though?
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voxpelli kevinmarks: https://unicyclic.com/mal/
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voxpelli although he has a different indie-config setup than most, where he caches the result of the indie-config in his site's localhost or something rather than loading it live
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kevinmarks well, it worked
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kylewm whoa
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kylewm mblaney++
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Loqi mblaney has 8 karma
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voxpelli mblaney++
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Loqi mblaney has 9 karma
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voxpelli kylewm: seen his suggestion for indie-config action status lookups?
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kylewm no
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voxpelli So one can show that an action has already been taken – should also be live on his site
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voxpelli kylewm: http://indiewebcamp.com/indie-config#Status_Option
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kylewm awesome, i NEED micropub to be able to do this too
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singpolyma is there a reason micropub supports both form-encoded and json, but not html?
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aaronpk like submitting an HTML page with microformats?
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singpolyma aaronpk: yes
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aaronpk it started out with just form-encoded because that's way simpler to accept on the server side
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singpolyma for sure. I get why that one is there
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singpolyma simpler to make, too, if you just build an html form that points somewhere
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aaronpk yeah
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aaronpk in what situation would it be easier to submit an HTML body than the other options?
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singpolyma aaronpk: well, I have to generate the HTML anyway if I'm going to display it to the user at all
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singpolyma I'm mostly curious when the JSON version is easier... since I never have that unless I make it specifically for micropub
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aaronpk frankly I think the JSON version is only easier when looking at request bodies written out
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aaronpk any web framework can json encode or form-encode a hash/dictionary just as easily
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singpolyma yeah
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aaronpk deeply nested form-encoded objects look ugly written out, but me
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aaronpk h
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aaronpk IIRC there is one structure form-encoded can't represent, but can't remember what exactly
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aaronpk also ironic is the fact that you can't upload files with JSON posts, so if you are going to post a photo or video, you need to use form encoding anyway
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singpolyma unless you wanted to accept data-uri fields or similar
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kevinmarks which is what Quill did
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kevinmarks actual data uri in the html of the content
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kylewm how do you nest form encoding at all?
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aaronpk foo[bar]=2
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kylewm ah
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aaronpk foo[bar][foo][]=6
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aaronpk there are examples on micropub.net
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aaronpk singpolyma: kevinmarks: yea there are any number of ways you *can* get files into JSON post requests, but none are standard the way multipart encoding is
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aaronpk you could even do regular multipart encoding and just have one of the parts be the JSON post body
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kevinmarks that is not exactly form encoding, but it's a convention
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kevinmarks or has it been standardised?
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aaronpk multipart encoding?
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kevinmarks ?foo[bar][foo][]=6
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kevinmarks etc
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aaronpk oh yeah that's not technically form encoding but is pretty well supported
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kevinmarks http://www.w3.org/TR/html-json-forms/ hm
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aaronpk whoa when did this happen "Beware. This specification is no longer in active maintenance and the HTML Working Group does not intend to maintain it further."
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kevinmarks don't know - ask tantek as he's at w3c
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aaronpk !tell tantek do you know what happened to HTML JSON forms? http://www.w3.org/TR/html-json-forms/ "Beware. This specification is no longer in active maintenance and the HTML Working Group does not intend to maintain it further."
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell him that when I see him next
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singpolyma that would have been neat
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singpolyma just like <form> supporting method="PUT" would be neat.... why can't we have nice things?
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davidpeach hello all
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snarfed hi!
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davidpeach think im gonna start trying to capture my day to day metrics
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davidpeach i like the idea of it
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snarfed hey all! a couple PSAs for bridgy users...
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snarfed first, retrying responses is much improved. it retries *all* URLs, works harder to find candidate URLs (including syndication URLs), and you can page through old responses so you can retry them
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snarfed second, for finding your user page: along with remembering your accounts when you log into them, it now also lets you type your username, full name, or domain instead of user id in the URL (for silos where it needed that before)
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aaronpk \o/
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snarfed e.g. https://brid.gy/facebook/RyanBarrett , https://brid.gy/googleplus/snarfed.org now work
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aaronpk snarfed++
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Loqi snarfed has 154 karma
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snarfed enjoy!
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aaronpk bridgy++
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Loqi bridgy has 30 karma
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snarfed yeah aaronpk your recent retry request was definitely some of the inspiration
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aaronpk that sounds like it'd make a great changelog entry and submitted to indienews!
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snarfed hmm!
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@FemometerInc Empower yourself and take control at http://www.femometer.com/ #OwnYourData #Femometer https://twitter.com/FemometerInc/status/659487074240692224/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/659487074240692224)
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aaronpk if you have a github tag or PR I can submit it as a bookmark!
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snarfed if you want, sure! it's a handful though. the four commits attached to https://github.com/snarfed/bridgy/issues/524, plus 189a47a869d1b94f5f0c9bd64afbae97aa2487dc
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snarfed up to you :P
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aaronpk ha i was hoping for something more like https://github.com/indieweb/php-mf2/releases/tag/v0.2.12
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snarfed oh and be4a3d7c560e8515b569bc9b4872d5408982acd4
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snarfed heh
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snarfed yeah no tags in bridgy, sorry
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snarfed don't worry about it
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snarfed service vs library
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Loqi [indienews] New post: http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2015-10-28#t1446068865447 (from http://aaronparecki.com/bookmarks/2015/10/28/1/bridgy-indieweb) http://news.indiewebcamp.com/en/indiewebcamp.com/irc/2015-10-28#t1446068865447
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snarfed ah now i need to do css to make the retry buttons line up
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snarfed ugh
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aaronpk heh the fragment URL breaks indienews
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snarfed heh jinx
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davidpeach @aaronpk hi. how do you do about taking data on what you eat/drink etc? Im thinking about doing similar thing
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aaronpk davidpeach: I use https://teacup.p3k.io as well as the companion Pebble app
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gRegorLove https://googleonlinesecurity.blogspot.com/2015/10/sustaining-digital-certificate-security.html
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aaronpk it's basically shortcuts for free-form text entry
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gRegorLove "Symantec performed another audit and, on October 12th, announced that they had found an additional 164 certificates over 76 domains and 2,458 certificates issued for domains that were never registered."
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davidpeach thanks @arronpk
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davidpeach thanks @aaronpk
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gRegorLove snarfed++ nice improvements
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snarfed thanks gRegorLove!
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snarfed oops, just realized one of my bridgy user page URL examples was broken. it's https://brid.gy/facebook/Ryan%20Barrett (needs the encoded space)
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davidpeach Do any ppl passively graba 'checkin'? like when posting a note / article etc, just grab the geo behind the scenes?
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davidpeach instead of manually doing an explicit checkin
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aaronpk all of my content is tagged with the location (lat/lng/city) but not venue
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aaronpk I don't consider those checkins, just tagging
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davidpeach cool. I've just re-implemented latlng saving for every post i post now.
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aaronpk nice
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aaronpk I also use the location to set the timezone for my posts to the local timezone
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davidpeach thats cool
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