#indiewebcamp 2015-06-27

2015-06-27 UTC
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KartikPrabhu someone with a /nicknames-cache should implement an actual hovercard
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KartikPrabhu does anyone other than aaronpk and tantek have next/previous links on their post permalink pages?
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tantek FB hovercard has: header-image, profile-image, name, most recent event, became friends with recently, and then a series of three buttons: friends/addfriend/friendrequested, follow/following, message
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tantek what is navigation?
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Loqi Navigation refers to the UI, UX and markup allowing people to move around a website https://indiewebcamp.com/navigation
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KartikPrabhu I want to use more examples for my article rather than single out aaronpk :)
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KevinMarks_ they vary the events and things
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tantek KartikPrabhu: perhaps add aaronpk here? https://indiewebcamp.com/navigation#IndieWeb_Examples
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KartikPrabhu kylewm: your feed pages have an "older" link but not "newer" link?
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kylewm KartikPrabhu: yeah it's always been that way
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KartikPrabhu kylewm: any reason or just not implemented?
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kylewm hmm, just not something i've ever wanted
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KartikPrabhu I see
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kylewm actually i guess i had older and newer when i was using page=1, page=2, instead of before-timestamp
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KartikPrabhu tantek: will add aaronpk when I take screenshots of his page
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KartikPrabhu tantek: do you know any examples off-hand that violate your "dictum" http://tantek.com/2011/102/t2/navigation-arrows-back-past-forward-future-ui-pattern ?
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tantek I think Flickr used to? they've gone through so many web UI iterations though
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kylewm oh god, flickrs used to alternate too .. they went one way on the stream and the other way in sets
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KartikPrabhu kylewm: I am going to complain about that ^ a lot in this article :P
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kylewm quietly flips the direction of his Older arrow
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KartikPrabhu damn it screenshots quickly
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KartikPrabhu too late :'(
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tantek hmm - looks like dribbble.com
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tantek self-referential https://dribbble.com/shots/147165-2011-101-Falcon-previous-next-arrow-buttons
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tantek KartikPrabhu: see the "More by Tantek Çelik" right column
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tantek if you look closely at the dates, you'll see they flipped the back/forth with past/future
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tantek as in the left <- side goes "newer", and the right -> side goes "older"
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tantek !tell KartikPrabhu re: examples off-hand that violate dictum "Navigation arrows: always back to the past and forward to the future. Back to the Future is a movie, not a UI pattern." see: http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2015-06-26/line/1435365383179
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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KartikPrabhu loqi messages?
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Loqi KartikPrabhu: tantek left you a message 19 minutes ago: re: examples off-hand that violate dictum "Navigation arrows: always back to the past and forward to the future. Back to the Future is a movie, not a UI pattern." see: http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2015-06-26/line/1435365383179 http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2015-06-26/line/1435365550497
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Loqi grins profusely
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kylewm tantek_: I experimented with making a Firefox Share provider for Quill a while back, but it didn't seem to really offer anything over a bookmarklet
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kylewm i.e. a bookmarklet that window.location = 'http://quill.p3k.io/new/?reply=' + window.location
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kylewm !tell tantek i made a quill provider for Firefox a while ago but didn't find it very useful. it's here if you want to try it: https://kylewm.com/test/quill-firefox/
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell him that when I see him next
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KevinMarks_ getting a cert error from safari for https://tantek.com/photo.jpg - says it si self-signed
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kylewm tantek's https certificate is self-signed
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KevinMarks_ don't remember seeing that before
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KevinMarks_ hm. Is there a CSS way to scale type size to fit width?
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KartikPrabhu width of a container?
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KartikPrabhu no
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KartikPrabhu but if your container width is declared in viewport widths, you can declare font-size in viewport widths too
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KevinMarks_ right, but that sets the height of the font
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KevinMarks_ I want to adjust the font size so a single line of text fits
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KevinMarks_ I can do it in js
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KartikPrabhu there is never a width of the font measure. font-size is always x-height
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KevinMarks_ I mean width of the string eg "Kevin Marks"
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KartikPrabhu hmm nope. the only way to scale the width of a phrase is to scale its font-size
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KartikPrabhu js solution: http://fittextjs.com/
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KevinMarks_ adjust the font-sis so it fits the width of a contaner
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KevinMarks_ is there an SVG solution?
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KartikPrabhu you mean embed an SVG and put the text in there?
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KartikPrabhu might be possible
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KartikPrabhu KevinMarks_ SVG works uploading demo for you now
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KevinMarks_ hm http://dabblet.com/gist/5231222
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KartikPrabhu https://kartikprabhu.com/static/demo/svg-text-fit.html
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KartikPrabhu svg container is fluid of width 90vw . resize browser to see scaling text
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KevinMarks_ doesn't scale in safari
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KevinMarks_ not quite what I meant
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KartikPrabhu "not what I meant" in the sense?
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KevinMarks_ playing with it in http://dabblet.com/gist/75e7de4baf3da184c6ef
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KevinMarks_ my head hurts
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KevinMarks_ maybe trying to combine flexbox and svg scaling was a bit ambitious
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KevinMarks_ seems like all these shiny new css things ahve booby traps if you are used to using semantic tags instead of div's for everything
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KevinMarks_ it would help if I remembered to put . in front of the class names in CSS
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@voxpelli @tarr11 Still having problems with WebMentions and markup? I created https://webmention.herokuapp.com/ and I’ll happily help you getting it set up (twitter.com/_/status/614755319143645184)
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davidpea.ch edited /User:Davidpea.ch (+99) "Added new indieweb post link" (view diff)
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davidpea.ch edited /Google_Play_Music (+117) "/* David Peach */" (view diff)
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davidpea.ch edited /User:Davidpea.ch (+107) "/* Itches */" (view diff)
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@FromTheWastes Bioflash Short Stories by @nrburnette – What are they?... https://fromthewastes11811.wordpress.com/2014/11/01/bioflash-short-stories-by-n-r-burnette-what-are-they/ #amreading #amwriting #indieauth # https://twitter.com/FromTheWastes/status/614765252912238592/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/614765252912238592)
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dym.cx edited /User:Dym.cx (+50) "+ link to relMe-s" (view diff)
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Loqi [bridgy] Jill Burrows replied '@gRegorLove I'll only make it to any social awesomeness on Saturday night and all Sunday, thanks for reminding me to book my flight...' to a tweet that linked to https://indiewebcamp.com/2015/Guest_List (https://twitter.com/jburrows/status/614856839293857792)
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@tarr11 @voxpelli :+1: Would love to have a way to have it auto listen for new replies instead of pinging a webmention server (twitter.com/_/status/614874197102166016)
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kylewm wat
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aaronpk hmm
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Loqi aaronpk: tantek left you a message on 6/26 at 4:11pm: I think I figurd out (with a lot of help from mixedpuppy / Shane Caraveo) how a micropub proxy could be built for Firefox Share - please see and review: https://indiewebcamp.com/Firefox_Share#Micropub_share_provider http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2015-06-26/line/1435360269285
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aaronpk i can't even figure out what that confusion is about
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aaronpk oh hey Known is listed on https://activations.cdn.mozilla.net/en-US/
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aaronpk really mozilla? "cdn" in the domain name?
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ben_thatmustbeme aaronpk: so i was thinking about the whole token exchange process
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Loqi ben_thatmustbeme: tantek left you a message on 6/26 at 4:11pm: I think I figurd out (with a lot of help from mixedpuppy / Shane Caraveo) how a micropub proxy could be built for Firefox Share - please see and review: https://indiewebcamp.com/Firefox_Share#Micropub_share_provider http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2015-06-26/line/1435360269285
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ben_thatmustbeme If site A already has a token that site B will accept, is it fine to just send a token directly to B that A will accept
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ben_thatmustbeme assuming the request includes the bearer token to auth
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ben_thatmustbeme also a question for anyone out there really
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tantek something you can do on your own website, but you can't do on your Facebook, Twitter, or other silos (maybe on Tumblr or Blogger with some hacking?) http://tantek.com/2015/178/t1/lovewins-css3-pride-rainbow-background
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Loqi tantek: kylewm left you a message on 6/26 at 6:07pm: i made a quill provider for Firefox a while ago but didn't find it very useful. it's here if you want to try it: https://kylewm.com/test/quill-firefox/ http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2015-06-26/line/1435367272211
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tantek kylewm++ that's great! we should totally get that into Firefox Activations Directory
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Loqi kylewm has 184 karma
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aaronpk tantek++ that is amazing
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Loqi tantek has 209 karma
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aaronpk tantek: your rainbow bkg looks great on my site :)
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tantek yeah!
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aaronpk it seems to behave differently on mobile chrome than desktop chrome
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tantek I think webkit too - like they don't support the background:fixed part of it
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tantek background-attachment:fixed
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tantek mobile webkit that is
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aaronpk same with safari mobile vs desktop
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tantek tried the -webkit- version also - didn't make any difference so unprefixed standard CSS only it is!
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tantek aaronpk: mobile chrome on iOS uses mobile webkit btw - not blink. try testing on an Android
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aaronpk oh right
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tantek checks latest FirefoxOS ;)
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tantek it's beautiful on FirefoxOS - my goodness
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@kevinmarks Let's also take this lesson for tech companies and dev stacks #indieweb https://twitter.com/mgsiegler/status/614926062640693248 (twitter.com/_/status/614927046838358016)
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snarfed woo, uploaded oauth-dropins to pypi
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snarfed https://pypi.python.org/pypi/oauth-dropins
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snarfed soon a-u too! (after it's renamed)
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GWG Does anyone adjust the timezone of their posts relative to their location at the time of posting?
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aaronpk yes, all of my posts do that
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aaronpk my URLs are also based on the local time
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GWG aaronpk: I think I would have to build the feature. I don't think WordPress supports it
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Loqi slack/snarfed: GWG: you've searched?
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GWG There is no option or plugin to store timezone data on a per post basis that I see. I need to look at the data structure.
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GWG snarfed: The post type stores in local and GMT time. Would need a plugin that would store and override and filter the display.
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snarfed right, i get the use case
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snarfed go for it!
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snarfed https://core.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/18146#comment:21