#indiewebcamp 2015-04-05

2015-04-05 UTC
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kylewm aaronpk: you'll be relieved to know I'm now getting the same error from kylewm.com
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kylewm eff startssl
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rhiaro aaronpk, kylewm: I'm getting the OCSP cert error for teacup, quill and kyelwm.com in firefox on Android, but not linux
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KartikPrabhu what is quill?
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Loqi Quill is a simple app for posting text notes to your website using micropub https://indiewebcamp.com/Quill
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KartikPrabhu woah I'm getting it for the wiki!
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zachdonovan what is micropub?
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Loqi Micropub is an open API standard that is used to create posts on one's own domain using third-party clients https://indiewebcamp.com/Micropub
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zachdonovan iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiinteresting
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kylewm aaronpk: does Quill have a way to provide an in-reply-to URL via query param?
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aaronpk That sounds like an easy pull request ;-)
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kylewm aaronpk: totally, just wanted to make sure it didn't already exist!
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kylewm (and that you didn't have a philosophical objection to it)
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aaronpk It might... I don't actually remember
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kylewm i'm 95% sure it doesn't looking at the code
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rhiaro Quill has in reply to
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rhiaro I used it
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rhiaro goes back to sleep
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kylewm wonders if Quill's name had anything to do with Guardians of the Galaxy
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kylewm smacks whomever chose the name "composer.lock"
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snarfed kylewm: deployed a bridgy change that switches to ignoring bad FB ids
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snarfed …*except* for you and me. hopefully if there are dupes, we'll see one or two
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kylewm interesting!
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snarfed (s/we/you/, since my account hasn't hit a bad id yet :P)
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kylewm out of curiosity why'd you enable them for us?
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snarfed to find a few dupes
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snarfed …which is actually silly since we can look for them across everyone, even if we still ignore them
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snarfed meh
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kylewm i'm a bad test case too since my backfeed was broken in the interim
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snarfed on your site's side?
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kylewm it was the problem with See Original thing
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kylewm the duplicates I would've gotten failed because it tried to send them to kylewm.com/<app-scoped id of some dude from harvard>/slug
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snarfed aww right
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kylewm aaronpk: sent you a PR for Quill! also here's what I was playing with -- opening it in a Firefox Social API popup like Known has https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/38780898/quill-firefox-service.png
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kylewm snarfed: thank you for fixing the assertion! excited to start getting event RSVPs again
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kylewm snarfed++
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Loqi snarfed has 98 karma
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kylewm I'm like 50% considering just hardcoding the munged facebook paths for /2014 and /2015
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kylewm e.g. https://kylewm.com/10101859667637941/12/i-m-amazed-how-much-available-on-netflix-streaming
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snarfed ahahahaha i like it
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snarfed brilliant
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kylewm added a couple of nginx redirects :p
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Loqi [bridgy] Ben Werdmüller RSVPed yes to https://indiewebcamp.com/events/2015-04-08-homebrew-website-club (https://www.facebook.com/647998125333311#10101051235173449)
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Loqi [bridgy] https://www.facebook.com/647998125333311#10101508925782433 was invited to https://indiewebcamp.com/events/2015-04-08-homebrew-website-club
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Loqi [bridgy] Kyle Mahan RSVPed yes to https://indiewebcamp.com/events/2015-04-08-homebrew-website-club (https://www.facebook.com/647998125333311#12802152)
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Loqi [bridgy] Katarzyna Babula RSVPed yes to https://indiewebcamp.com/events/2015-04-08-homebrew-website-club (https://www.facebook.com/647998125333311#10153539884612729)
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Loqi [bridgy] Florian M Unterkircher RSVPed no to https://indiewebcamp.com/events/2015-04-22-homebrew-website-club (https://www.facebook.com/807045706055031#10153172644509544)
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Loqi [bridgy] Kyle Mahan RSVPed yes to https://indiewebcamp.com/events/2015-04-22-homebrew-website-club (https://www.facebook.com/807045706055031#12802152)
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Loqi [bridgy] Kevin Marks RSVPed yes to https://indiewebcamp.com/events/2015-04-22-homebrew-website-club (https://www.facebook.com/807045706055031#10154060766865425)
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Loqi [bridgy] https://www.facebook.com/807045706055031#10101508925747503 was invited to https://indiewebcamp.com/events/2015-04-22-homebrew-website-club
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Loqi [bridgy] https://www.facebook.com/807045706055031#10101508925782433 was invited to https://indiewebcamp.com/events/2015-04-22-homebrew-website-club
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Loqi [bridgy] https://www.facebook.com/807045706055031#10153539884612729 was invited to https://indiewebcamp.com/events/2015-04-22-homebrew-website-club
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Loqi [bridgy] Ben Werdmüller RSVPed yes to https://indiewebcamp.com/events/2015-04-22-homebrew-website-club (https://www.facebook.com/807045706055031#10101051235173449)
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Loqi [bridgy] https://www.facebook.com/647998125333311#752883204006 was invited to https://indiewebcamp.com/events/2015-04-08-homebrew-website-club
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Loqi [bridgy] https://www.facebook.com/807045706055031#752883204006 was invited to https://indiewebcamp.com/events/2015-04-22-homebrew-website-club
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Loqi [bridgy] https://www.facebook.com/647998125333311#10101508925747503 was invited to https://indiewebcamp.com/events/2015-04-08-homebrew-website-club
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Loqi [bridgy] Kevin Marks RSVPed yes to https://indiewebcamp.com/events/2015-04-08-homebrew-website-club (https://www.facebook.com/647998125333311#10154060766865425)
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snarfed woooo catching up
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kylewm snarfed: getting some interesting backfeeds now
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snarfed yeah i'm fixing a bug
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snarfed :/
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snarfed kylewm: bad?
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kylewm snarfed: no i meant genuinely interesting :)
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kylewm the u-url for the colon-containing mentions seems bad
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kylewm see the two 'references' on here https://kylewm.com/2014/12/i-m-amazed-how-much-available-on-netflix-streaming
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kylewm bah, i guess because the facebook API doesn't give us a permalink for them
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kylewm and we have to construct one from the id?
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kylewm bbiab
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snarfed ugh, more deconstructing ids only to have them change format again in a year
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aaronpk kylewm: what's wrong with composer.lock?
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kylewm aaronpk: i just take issue with *.lock; i expect it to be a temporary file i guess
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kylewm like a temporary file that indicates that another file is write-locked
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kylewm it doesn't say "list of dependencies" to me :)
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@damienstolarz RT @kevinmarks: "@CommitStrip: CMS or Custom? http://www.commitstrip.com/en/2015/04/03/cms-or-custom/ http://t.co/jeVtPviW5A" #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/584590563657129985)
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@andkjaer Facebook Surveys Users on Their Experiences with Pages >> http://www.adweek.com/socialtimes/?p=617927&utm_content=buffer259f1&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer #SocialMedia Tip from David Cohen. #SelfPublish #IndieAuth… (twitter.com/_/status/584640893648535555)
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@NoizIvy RT @NZN: Personal Sovereign Design http://iiw.idcommons.net/Personal_Sovereign_Design #iiw #SovereignSourceAuthority #vrm #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/584701406185189377)
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@rhiaro I blogged about my all new micropub endpoint: Minimum Viable Micropub http://rhiaro.co.uk/2015/04/minimum-viable-micropub #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/584703127598850049)
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@CoderDojoVA RT @NZN: Personal Sovereign Design http://iiw.idcommons.net/Personal_Sovereign_Design #iiw #SovereignSourceAuthority #vrm #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/584705323979640833)
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Loqi Welcome, indie-visitor! Set your nickname by typing /nick yourname
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WilliamDhalgren hi!
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WilliamDhalgren um, an embarrasing q: does http://news.indiewebcamp.com/ produce any rss feed I can consume? it really should
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KartikPrabhu WilliamDhalgren: it is a wiki and so doesn't automatically produce an RSS feed
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KartikPrabhu also what is RSS?
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Loqi RSS typically loosely refers to a set of XML feed file formats of varying degrees of use for syndicating typically time-stamped content from web sites https://indiewebcamp.com/RSS
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WilliamDhalgren hm, are you sure - that news.* subdomain has a separate codebase from the wiki apparently, modeled after the hackernews experience - https://github.com/aaronpk/IndieNews
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KartikPrabhu hmm possibly. but afaik there is no RSS feed for indiewebcamp
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WilliamDhalgren yeah, no luck finding it here. no biggie, but it would make perfect sense i think :)
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KartikPrabhu maybe
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@elfpavlik #eh15 @fkooman presents https://indiecert.net and IT WORKS! #IndieWeb #easterhegg, time to test it with @nitrokey! https://twitter.com/elfpavlik/status/584721119145545729/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/584721119145545729)
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@elfpavlik #eh15 @fkooman (http://indiecert.net) invites to #IndieWeb Camp Düsseldorf, May 9&10th https://indiewebcamp.com/2015/Germany @ccc https://twitter.com/elfpavlik/status/584726313174458370/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/584726313174458370)
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@kojote RT @elfpavlik: #eh15 @fkooman (http://indiecert.net) invites to #IndieWeb Camp Düsseldorf, May 9&10th https://indiewebcamp.com/2015/Germany @ccc http:/… (twitter.com/_/status/584729150495334401)
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Loqi [bridgy] Nils Hitze retweeted a tweet https://indiewebcamp.com/2015/Germany (https://twitter.com/kojote/status/584729150495334401)
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kylewm WilliamDhalgren: you could try subscribing to it through barnaby's mf2 to atom proxy: https://waterpigs.co.uk/services/microformats-to-atom/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fnews.indiewebcamp.com%2F
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aaronpk !tell WilliamDhalgren I'd recommend following the "newest" URL with the mf2-to-atom proxy: https://waterpigs.co.uk/services/microformats-to-atom/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fnews.indiewebcamp.com%2Fnewest
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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snarfed kylewm++
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snarfed aaronpk__
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Loqi kylewm has 150 karma
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kylewm I was wondering about that... https://news.ycombinator.com/rss orders the entries the same way as the front page
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snarfed er aaronpk++
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snarfed i've also had moderate success with e.g. http://page2rss.com/
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snarfed but meh
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aaronpk oh nice
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aaronpk kylewm: I think I'm just gonna drop the whole upvoting thing from indienews and make it more like a planet
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aaronpk the voting only works if there are an unmanagable number of submissions and lots of people voting
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kylewm that makes sense
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aaronpk and i want to make it possible to submit with just a regular mention to the home page
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aaronpk the trick is still how to make it so I can submit someone else's post
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aaronpk maybe if you syndicated a "like" or "bookmark" post to indienews it would display the liked/bookmarked post "submitted by" the author of the like
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aaronpk that actually seems like a pretty good solution now that i think about it
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snarfed piles on the "kylewm is my copilot" bandwagon…
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snarfed so fb may or may not be sending the same object with different ids, but new id formats are clearly the future either way
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snarfed so i guess we need to fix whatever broke the references you saw, kylewm
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snarfed whee
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kylewm snarfed: I'm really irritated that the API doesn't give us the comment permalink
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snarfed totally :/
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snarfed hmm i think it gives us the *post* permalink though right?
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snarfed so can we just tack on ?comment_id=… ?
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kylewm checking... (my internet is super busted today)
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snarfed np!
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snarfed i'm working on https://github.com/snarfed/bridgy/issues/355 so we won't collide
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kylewm snarfed: ok so the blob from their api looks like this https://gist.github.com/kylewm/3becfff4637456da5f33
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snarfed ok so it's only in the actions part
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snarfed which is meh
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snarfed ok i guess
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kylewm so like, I'm just going to try to remove every call to string.split('_') in au/facbook
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snarfed what could go wrong?! :P
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kylewm this code would be funny if it wasn't so sad
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snarfed it can be both!
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snarfed please god let it be both :P
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kylewm hehe
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snarfed oh hey kylewm, unrelated, the fb hwc event end date is wrong (thurs, should be wed): https://www.facebook.com/events/647998125333311/
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kylewm oops, ty
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@elfpavlik @netlabsorg I don't understand your question. https://indiecert.net/ pretty much just implements http://indiewebcamp.com/indieauth with client certs (twitter.com/_/status/584784795428847616)
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aaronpk whoa, i didn't realize webID was unable to be used with nginx https://twitter.com/elfpavlik/status/584749096914780160
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@elfpavlik @netlabsorg with #WebID+TLS relying party needs to implement much more stuff and not sure if it even works with @nginx :( @fkooman @nitrokey (twitter.com/_/status/584749096914780160)
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kylewm snarfed: i hit and dead end and sort of stalled out looking at the comment id stuff.
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kylewm will come back to it another time
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snarfed kylewm: np
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snarfed totally understandable
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snarfed thanks!
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snarfed you're welcome to post an in progress patch to the issue and describe where you got stuck too
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snarfed only if you want
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kylewm ok i may do that
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kylewm i didn't get very far... the problem is getting the URL when all you have is the comment object
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kylewm they don't give you much to work with in that case
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snarfed ah right
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kylewm which is why we were destructuring ids to begin with
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snarfed kylewm: it looks like the new ids have a superset of the info in the old ids, right?
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snarfed so there's some reason it's not as simple as just updating our id parsing?
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kylewm snarfed: yeah I guess that's fine, was hoping we'd actually be able to treat them as opaque strings
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@kevinmarks RT @rhiaro: I blogged about my all new micropub endpoint: Minimum Viable Micropub http://rhiaro.co.uk/2015/04/minimum-viable-micropub #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/584828670390312960)
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@mshook RT @rhiaro: I blogged about my all new micropub endpoint: Minimum Viable Micropub http://rhiaro.co.uk/2015/04/minimum-viable-micropub #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/584839522212564992)
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aaronpk quiet day
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GWG aaronpk: How do we remedy that?
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aaronpk write some blog posts?
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aaronpk ship some code?
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aaronpk unfortunately can't do either of those today
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@rhiaro It's what you've all been waiting for! My blog posts now available as RDF! http://rhiaro.co.uk/2015/04/blog-post-content (and plain markdown) #indieweb #linkedData (twitter.com/_/status/584857465499623424)
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rhiaro aaronpk: I just did both of those :D ^^
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rhiaro so now there's a way to get plain markdown source of my blog posts, potentially for editing with a micropub client
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rhiaro (also rdf YAY)
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Loqi woot
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aaronpk rhiaro++
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Loqi rhiaro has 47 karma
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