#indiewebcamp 2015-02-28

2015-02-28 UTC
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kylewm I'm so disappointed that pubsubhubbub.appspot.com doesn't seem to work
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kylewm it does look from this like it tries to handle arbitrary content https://code.google.com/p/pubsubhubbub/source/browse/hub/main.py#2526
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kylewm to be clear, it doesn't seem to work with HTML resources, it's fine for RSS/Atom
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kylewm subscription details https://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com/subscription-details?hub.callback=http%3A%2F%2Freader.kylewm.com%2F_notify%2F70&hub.topic=https%3A%2F%2Fwaterpigs.co.uk%2F&hub.secret=
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kylewm and publish details https://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com/topic-details?hub.url=https%3A%2F%2Fwaterpigs.co.uk%2F
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kylewm (worst diagnostic information ever)
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channy.creation.net edited /WordPress-ko () "(-814)" (view diff)
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channy.creation.net edited /WordPress-ko (+8) "/* See Also */" (view diff)
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GWG Wordpress in Korean. Great
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Loqi [mention] http://channy.creation.net linked to https://indiewebcamp.com/Main_Page-ko (webmention)
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Loqi slack/npdoty: is this just a mirror of the IRC channel?
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snarfed it's a bridge
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@pypi_updates went 0.0.1: Tools for implementing a webmention enpoint. https://pypi.python.org/pypi/went/0.0.1 (twitter.com/_/status/571497519617847296)
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@pypi_updates went 0.0.2: Tools for implementing a webmention enpoint. https://pypi.python.org/pypi/went/0.0.2 (twitter.com/_/status/571501042132762624)
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@artwisanggeni #python went 0.0.2: Tools for implementing a webmention enpoint. https://pypi.python.org/pypi/went/0.0.2 (twitter.com/_/status/571501406525370368)
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KartikPrabhu hey no twitter backlash on dissing both RSS and Atom. I must not be famous enough
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tantek it's a friday night.
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tantek and on that note, good night!
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Loqi laila tov!
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Loqi slack/kevinmarks: Also, I was being nice about rss
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KartikPrabhu1 kevinmarks: nice to RSS or nice to me dissing rss?
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KartikPrabhu1 \nick KartikPrabhu
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Loqi [bridgy] https://www.facebook.com/747180078729089#961503190557250 was invited to http://indiewebcamp.com/Main_Page-ko
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aaronpk b 20
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aaronpk IRC server config files make me want to cry
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@yesori IndeWebCamp 한국 사이트 http://indiewebcamp.com/Main_Page-ko (twitter.com/_/status/571535681366982656)
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KevinMarks__ KartikPrabhu: I made unmung support the no-js outlining: http://www.unmung.com/feed?feed=http%3A%2F%2Fwerd.io%2F%3F_t%3Drss
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KevinMarks__ might be a good fit for marginalia too
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KartikPrabhu hmm will take a look
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KevinMarks__ <details><summary> is the trick
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KevinMarks__ supported by chrome+safari and mobile versions
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KartikPrabhu hmmm interesting. I am currently in no mood to deal with XML stuff
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KevinMarks__ the "nice to RSS" part is just unmung; the markup is very simple
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KevinMarks__ https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTML/Element/details#Browser_compatibility
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KartikPrabhu in fact thinking of making a mung-er to convert h-feed to Atom so people can still use their reader things for my site
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KevinMarks__ there is at least one already
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KartikPrabhu i know barnabywalters made one in PHP
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@Josh_8524 RT @lehawes: Hearing greater support for activitystrea.ms than I expected at #osfw3c, at least among architects and developers. That's good… (twitter.com/_/status/571620261377794048)
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@elfpavlik RT @lehawes: Hearing greater support for activitystrea.ms than I expected at #osfw3c, at least among architects and developers. That's good… (twitter.com/_/status/571627910618058752)
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@pypi_updates went 0.0.3: Tools for implementing a webmention enpoint. https://pypi.python.org/pypi/went/0.0.3 (twitter.com/_/status/571678964386807808)
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@pypi_updates went 0.0.4: Tools for implementing a webmention enpoint. https://pypi.python.org/pypi/went/0.0.4 (twitter.com/_/status/571681477638926336)
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@pypi_updates went 0.0.5: Tools for implementing a webmention enpoint. https://pypi.python.org/pypi/went/0.0.5 (twitter.com/_/status/571682233364455424)
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@artwisanggeni #python went 0.0.5: Tools for implementing a webmention enpoint. https://pypi.python.org/pypi/went/0.0.5 (twitter.com/_/status/571683329944113152)
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@Data88Geek RT @artwisanggeni: #python went 0.0.5: Tools for implementing a webmention enpoint. https://pypi.python.org/pypi/went/0.0.5 (twitter.com/_/status/571683760015601665)
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GWG Having trouble figuring out how to build the functions to support multi-replies.
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kylewm snarfed: getting a weird error trying to run bridgy locally. (Source type 'twitter' not found.) I think it has to do with the metaclass stuff?
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kylewm still haven't gotten used to python modules that do stuff on import, without a specific init call
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@raretrack My #FlickrPro a/c is due for renewal. Considering #ownyourdata #indieweb alternatives. E.g. is anything available for @withknown #Known ? (twitter.com/_/status/571709761097363456)
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aaronpk gooooooood morning
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GWG Morning
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kylewm.com edited /PubSubHubbub (+91) "/* How To */ note redundancy with [[How_to_publish_and_consume_PubSubHubbub]]." (view diff)
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aaronpk kylewm: want to just remove all the 0.4 stuff from that page and link to the new how to page instead?
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Loqi slack/snarfed: kylewm: re that bridgy error, ugh sorry. may well be the new metaclass stuff. you could try reverting that commit to see if that fixes it
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Loqi slack/kylewm: snarfed: i imported all the sources into app.py and it worked
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cphyc Hi
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Loqi cphyc: tantek left you a message on 2/21 at 6:52pm: you asked is there a way to update Known, see https://indiewebcamp.com/Known#Upgrade
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Loqi slack/snarfed: kylewm thanks! and sorry for the mess :p
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cphyc I am trying to publish on a Facebook page using Known but I get the error "(#200) The user hasn't authorized the application to perform this action"
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@kevinmarks @zspencer @tef @timocratic @SlackHQ you can bridge slack to irc - indieweb does that http://slack.indiewebcamp.com (twitter.com/_/status/571728122669768705)
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@aaronpk @zspencer @kevinmarks @timocratic @SlackHQ @tef no actually the #indiewebcamp IRC on freenode is bridged to the Slack room! (twitter.com/_/status/571729079273046018)
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cphyc I reported the bug at https://github.com/idno/Facebook/issues/20, is their any improvement since then ?
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@derhess wallabag https://www.wallabag.org/ is nice tool for saving and #archive your web research efforts #science #research #web_reference #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/571729257816301568)
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@kevinmarks @aaronpk @zspencer @timocratic @SlackHQ @tef yes, and Aaron's archives are nicer than slack's http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2015-02-28 (twitter.com/_/status/571729551325192192)
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Loqi [bridgy] You replied '@kevinmarks @zspencer that also provides an interesting path to learning technical tools after easy start too @aaronpk @SlackHQ @tef' to a tweet http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2015-02-28 (https://twitter.com/timocratic/status/571730085830508544)
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aaronpk "You"?
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KevinMarks It's his twitter name.
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KevinMarks Hm, thinking about this details/summary thing. If I put an iframe in details, will it defer loading until expanded?
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KevinMarks If so there's a neat way to do a card like UI with no js
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GWG KevinMarks: What do you need a card like UI for?
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KevinMarks For a /reader or for /link-preview stuff
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GWG Oh.
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KevinMarks Did you see the unmung.com change?
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GWG I was thinking of trying that with that modal I was playing with.
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GWG KevinMarks: No. Must have missed it
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KevinMarks Try it with a feed or articles rather than notes
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KevinMarks I still need to work out the note case better
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KevinMarks The name=content=summary case
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KevinMarks So this looks OK http://www.unmung.com/feed?feed=http%3A%2F%2Fepeus.blogspot.com%2Fatom.xml
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GWG Looks nice
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KevinMarks But this looks odd: http://www.unmung.com/feed?feed=http%3A%2F%2Fwerd.io%2Fcontent%2Fall%3F_t%3Drss
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KevinMarks Because the notes expand unhelpfully
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GWG What's the end game?
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KevinMarks Also, the link and the expander are a bit to easy to misclick
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KevinMarks Taking Tantek's no js (progressive enhancenemt) view on board in UI building
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GWG I've adopted a no JS or minor JS philosophy because I don't want to learn JS
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@derhess The UBOS project is a great answer of the #indieweb community for #raspberrypi user http://ubos.net/ (also for #IoT apps) #owncloud (twitter.com/_/status/571740509682700288)
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GWG I keep getting sidetracked.
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GWG snarfed: When do you reach the point of too many filters/hooks?
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Loqi slack/snarfed: GWG: if you have to ask, you're probably already there :P
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GWG snarfed: Looking at Semantic Linkbacks and trying to see if I can change behavior without asking for his code to change. I can't.
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GWG The line used to generate the pretty excerpt uses the name of the post format. I want to use the post kind.
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GWG I looked at his filters and they are missing a parameter.
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GWG I just am trying to reduce complexity.
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kylewm.com edited /PubSubHubbub (+17) "/* Advertise PuSH Hub and Topic */" (view diff)
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kylewm.com edited /PubSubHubbub (+1) "/* Notify Your PuSH Hub When Your Feed Updates */" (view diff)
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kylewm.com edited /PubSubHubbub (-11) "/* Advertise PuSH Hub and Topic */ Superfeedr *does not* support link elements in HTML (yet)" (view diff)
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kylewm.com edited /PubSubHubbub (+388) "/* Hubs */ strong recommendation to avoid the apparently abandoned Google hub" (view diff)
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kylewm.com edited /PubSubHubbub (+265) "/* Issues */" (view diff)
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kylewm.com edited /PubSubHubbub (+94) "/* Issues */ note julien's unsigned comments" (view diff)
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kylewm.com edited /PubSubHubbub (+4) "/* Issues */" (view diff)
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kylewm.com edited /PubSubHubbub (+68) "/* Advertise PuSH Hub and Topic */ link to tweet where Julien suggested they may support link elements in html" (view diff)
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@kopfzeiler Warum Content-Silos wie süße, ungesunde Snacks sind. Von @davewiner http://reader.liveblog.co/davewiner?id=1425149270000 #indieweb https://twitter.com/kopfzeiler/status/571796497949323264/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/571796497949323264)
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