#indiewebcamp 2015-02-08

2015-02-08 UTC
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@bookprescom Fiksu: App Downloads Hit Record High in December 2014 >> http://www.adweek.com/socialtimes/?p=613506&utm_content=buffer99f7f&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer #SocialMedia Tip from Brandy Shaul. #SelfPublish #IndieAuth… (twitter.com/_/status/564227244571512834)
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Loqi [mention] https://aaronparecki.com/webmention linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/vouch (webmention)
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aaronpk what
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aaronpk who's doing that
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@ODNTTheSeries W/out 4th/final season Muscles STUCK n Ohio w/parents 4EVER! Bring him home @ https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/old-dogs-new-tricks-4th-final-season #LGBT #Indieweb https://twitter.com/ODNTTheSeries/status/564244168948477952/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/564244168948477952)
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@LeonAcord RT @ODNTTheSeries: W/out 4th/final season Muscles STUCK n Ohio w/parents 4EVER! Bring him home @ https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/old-dogs-new-tricks-4th-final-season #LGBT #Indieweb htt… (twitter.com/_/status/564244238712320000)
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aaronpk wat
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@hexsphere RT @ODNTTheSeries: W/out 4th/final season Muscles STUCK n Ohio w/parents 4EVER! Bring him home @ https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/old-dogs-new-tricks-4th-final-season #LGBT #Indieweb htt… (twitter.com/_/status/564244251798552576)
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GWG Slow weekend again
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GWG I'm worried.
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kylewm voxpelli: sorry I broke woodwind earlier. it was erroring on all h-feeds, not just yours. i don't know if that's better or worse :p
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kylewm GWG: why are you worried?
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GWG kylewm: I submitted one of my WordPress plugins for the official repository. I'm awaiting review.
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kylewm oh :)
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GWG I've never had anyone judge my code before except me. Well, maybe pfefferle.
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GWG I'm not counting computer programming courses in school. I wasn't emotionally invested in them
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kylewm oh wow is someone really reviewing wordpress plugins that closely?
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GWG kylewm: https://pippinsplugins.com/tips-getting-plugin-approved-wordpress-org/
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GWG kylewm: They say they do
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kylewm wow, impressive
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kylewm good luck!
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GWG kylewm: I'm hoping for either an approval or a soft rejection(fix this and you are in).
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GWG I don't even want to make any more changes till I hear something.
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GWG In the meantime, I've created a sample theme using my starter theme work I'm calling Indieweb Classic or Classic for Indieweb
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GWG https://tiny.n9n.us/ - Does this look fairly typical blog style?
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millette GWG, look fine to me, but no blog titles?
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GWG millette: Only on articles, not on notes
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KartikPrabhu !tell snarfed: can Bridgy Publish not add @-mentions to Twitter POSSE if one already exists in the original? example: https://twitter.com/kartik_prabhu/status/564326241797300225 vs https://kartikprabhu.com/notes/craigmod-lingering-feeling-outsider
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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KartikPrabhu cc: kylewm ^^
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kylewm heh, I have the same bug in redwind
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kylewm checking for @craigmod case-sensitive
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kylewm I'll check it out, thanks for reporting KartikPrabhu
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KartikPrabhu kylewm: twitter@names are case-insensitive right?
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KartikPrabhu oh does bridgy dedup if it was lowercase?
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kylewm yeah it doesn't add an @-name if it's already in the string
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KartikPrabhu aah I see.
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KartikPrabhu I was capitalising in hopes of future-nicknames cache implementation
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KartikPrabhu kylewm: woodwind looks great! one Q, what does it use SQL for?
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kylewm thanks! it stores all the users/feeds/entries in a database
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KartikPrabhu i'd like to use it but store things in a file :P maybe I'll make a fork thingie and see how it goes
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kylewm sure :) emmak's implementation might be more your cup of tea
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KartikPrabhu ahh cool. will look at it
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kylewm KartikPrabhu: are you interested in no-db because it's easier to maintain/backup/etc.?
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kylewm i didn't think longevity was as much of a concern with a reader
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KartikPrabhu kylewm: yeah possibly. also I want to move everything to a no-db
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KartikPrabhu i'll try my site first and then tinker with readers
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kylewm i just stumbled on this accidentally, but you can sort of get an idea what her file storage mechanism is from it http://notenoughneon.com/feeds/
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KartikPrabhu neat thanks
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KartikPrabhu kylewm: btw woodwind might want to support p-summary, u-featured and maybe feed-discovery using rel-feed
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kylewm interesting, to just show the summary and maybe a featured image instead of the full article content?
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KartikPrabhu kylewm: no I was thinking more when it shows a list of posts from a h-feed
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KartikPrabhu for instance: https://kartikprabhu.com/
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kylewm interesting idea
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kylewm I do also need to have a way to view only posts from a particular feed
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KartikPrabhu aah also that :)
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KartikPrabhu aynbe also a u-tag type clustering would be nice. Feedly categorizes feeds as a whole, which is not nice as people post different things on the same site
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KartikPrabhu kylewm: sorry I am dumping all my reader-itches onto you :P
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kylewm KartikPrabhu: it's interesting, im not much of a feed power user... never made use of categories/folders/etc.
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KartikPrabhu kylewm: btw having a Twitter-chat with Craig Mod about your post: https://twitter.com/kartik_prabhu/status/564328934108459008
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@kartik_prabhu @craigmod the outsider thing also seeps into reading experiences for instance: https://kylewm.com/2014/08/american-gods-one-of-my-least-favorite (https://kartikprabhu.com/notes/outsider-reading-experience) (twitter.com/_/status/564328934108459008)
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kylewm as such, i think woodwind is likely to stay pretty rudimentary (unless other people want to fancy it up)
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KartikPrabhu kylewm: of course scratch your own itches
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KartikPrabhu kylewm: also full conversation here: https://twitter.com/kartik_prabhu/status/564316935001628672
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@kartik_prabhu @craigmod in http://craigmod.com/sputnik/the_other/ reminds me of first setting foot in Chicago, and years earlier, in Berlin. (twitter.com/_/status/564316935001628672)
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kylewm heh, that's cool. just don't tell Neil Gaiman I think he is a bad writer
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KartikPrabhu kylewm: I am sure he knows how to deal with criticism :P
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KartikPrabhu plus you made up for it after my comment
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JarOfGreen Twitter login working? I get "An unknown error occurred with this provider."
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JarOfGreen Got github to work
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JarOfGreen if I want to add myself as interested on that page, how do I get a short form for my username like Amy and Harry have?
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JarOfGreen Added a text link, maybe someone will correct it later or my email is on my page .....
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GWG Good morning
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prtksxna Morning GWG! How is the review process going?
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@jarofgreen @LockhartL @prettysimple @lelil @davidgrindlay You should chat to @rhiaro about http://indiewebcamp.com/2015/Edinburgh (twitter.com/_/status/564390326698143745)
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GWG prtksxna: No update
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GWG Sorry for the delay. Had to navigate around a captive portal
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prtksxna Oh! Is it a transparent process though?
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GWG prtksxna: They will get back to me within a week
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prtksxna Cool
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GWG Okay. Finally found something to reliably route around the firewall
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GWG prtksxna: Have you tried the latest version of the plugin
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@achorism IndieWeb Facebook 댓글 연동 http://achor.net/board/diary/1588 어제, 2/7 토요일 한국에서 처음으로 열린 IndieWeb Homebrew Website Club 오프라인 모임에 다녀온 후 Fa... (twitter.com/_/status/564437481290870786)
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@4nduril Hm, ob heute wohl #indieweb Tag ist? Ich glaub ich setz mich gleich mal an die Tasten. (twitter.com/_/status/564438244524580865)
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prtksxna GWG: No, I haven't had a chance to do so yet.
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prtksxna GWG: Been busy with travel and some family stuff…
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KevinMarks_ Some great use case research http://www.hover.com/blog/10-things-that-used-to-be-on-every-website-that-you-totally-forgot-about/
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GWG prtksxna: No rush. Just curious.
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@ODNTTheSeries FINAL Season! Make it happen! https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/old-dogs-new-tricks-4th-final-season #indie #indieweb #LGBT Pick how @ODNTTheSeries ends! #webseries http://www.odnt.tv (twitter.com/_/status/564470664799596544)
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@LeonAcord RT @ODNTTheSeries: FINAL Season! Make it happen! https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/old-dogs-new-tricks-4th-final-season #indie #indieweb #LGBT Pick how @ODNTTheSeries ends! #webseries ht… (twitter.com/_/status/564470734664105984)
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GWG There has to be a way to filter those.
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@martinlindner sonntag = putz- & podcasttag. 2x TheWebAhead gehört, u.a. mit Jeremy @adactio Keith. jetzt finster zur #indieweb-unabhängigkeit entschlossen (twitter.com/_/status/564480646626942976)
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@kevinmarks “[silos] control not only the ball but the field, and the umpires, and the stadium…” - @mathewi https://gigaom.com/2015/02/05/are-media-companies-building-another-house-of-cards-on-snapchat/ #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/564484912380522496)
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@4nduril Ich can now officially use my domain for web sign-in. #indieweb Oh, and h-card also. (twitter.com/_/status/564486807979835393)
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KevinMarks__ Today in site deaths, site suicides Check out @ashishP's Tweet: https://twitter.com/ashishP/status/563764681576554496?s=09
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@ashishP We just shut the desktop site down @nowthisnews to truly be socially distributed media company. Follow us wherever: https://twitter.com/ashishP/status/563764681576554496/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/563764681576554496)
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bret omg, ran into about 4 dead github pages sites
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bret lacking the updated dns settings
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GWG What's the difference between a site death and a site suicide again?
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KevinMarks well, a site shutting down because it's been taken over or run out of money is one thing, but wilfully closing your website to focus on silos is another to
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GWG KevinMarks: So, Google Reader for example...death or suicide?
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KevinMarks hm. death by neglect?
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GWG I meant the point at which they killed it.
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GWG Is that site murder?
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millette can someone give me a hand? I am RSVPing to Wednesday's event in Montreal (trying to organize the first)
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millette I used {{Robin.millette}} to sign, but I get a Template:Robin.millette in return instead of a user page. Meanwhile, I created a (basically empty) userpage for myself, in case that would fix it, but no.
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millette So there's something I'm not getting right.
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kylewm hi millette, you'd need to create http://indiewebcamp.com/Template:Robin.millette
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kylewm or you can just use [[User:Robin.millette.info|Robin.millette]] directly
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kylewm but {{ ... }} is a template expansion
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millette and somehow, I should make template redirect to my user page..?
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millette oh, I see what's happening
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millette kylewm++ for his wiki help
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Loqi kylewm has 113 karma
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millette sorry for all the noise, at least now I have some time in front of me to delve back into microformats (I missed the whole mf2 thing!) and iwc.
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