#indiewebcamp 2014-12-24

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tantek what do you mean by active?
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GWG tantek: I wrote in all the types: Favorite, Like, Etc. I'll write in a button to turn each one off.
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tantek turn them off where?
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GWG tantek: On my site.
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GWG I wrote the code. No point in removing it. I'll just hide the selection option
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GWG tantek: Back to the favorite vs like vs bookmark vs reply vs whatever
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tantek by "on my site" do you mean you'll delete the content as well?
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tantek or just the UI?
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GWG Just the UI
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GWG If I am not using the designator, nothing will be associated with it
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GWG But, considering I have the code on Github, someone else may prefer Favorite to Like
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GWG So, why cut it entirely? Just hide it
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GWG I still have to decide which ones I'll be using.
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tantek.com edited /IndieMark (+120) "/* posting UI */ add micropub support for level 5 since people have built that, move theoretical level 5 to 6, bump 6 to 7 as possible futures" (view diff)
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tantek good evening indiewebcamp - almost ready with the 2015 commitments blog post
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tantek anyone around that could give it a quick review?
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KartikPrabhu tantek: sure
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tantek cool
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tantek KartikPrabhu: http://tantek.com/2014/357/b1/2015-indieweb-site-launch-commitment
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KartikPrabhu tantek: looks good. I like the hierarchy of commitments
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tantek great - that was my intent
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tantek to go from simpler to more aggressive
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tantek and cluster them sensibly too
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KartikPrabhu and I come first! :D
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tantek quite honorable to help someone else with their indieweb setup
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KartikPrabhu maybe "first" should be s comment type, like "this"
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tantek what is first?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "first" yet. Would you like to create it? https://indiewebcamp.com/wiki/index.php?action=edit&title=first
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tantek ok i'm shipping it
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@t What Is Your 2015-01-01 #IndieWeb Personal Site Launch Commitment? http://tantek.com/2014/357/b1/2015-indieweb-site-launch-commitment (twitter.com/_/status/547573374445436928)
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KartikPrabhu tantek: do you not send webmentions automatically?
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tantek no. https://indiewebcamp.com/Falcon#send_webmentions_for_posted_links
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KartikPrabhu aah cool
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tantek yeah - so much to build/launch. best I can do for most of it is keep track of it in my Working On and Itches lists
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KartikPrabhu yup
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tantek hoping that at least my incremental documentation may help others who are working on some of the same things
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KartikPrabhu yes. I like the HEAD first then GET idea. Should put that in Ronkyuu
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KartikPrabhu also, i sent a webmention to my post from yours, just to keep a record
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tantek cool
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@kevinmarks RT @t: What Is Your 2015-01-01 #IndieWeb Personal Site Launch Commitment? http://tantek.com/2014/357/b1/2015-indieweb-site-launch-commitment (twitter.com/_/status/547576578096369664)
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ben_thatmust Anyone know if you can directly mention a person on facebook through brid.gy
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@caseybecking Tantek Çelik: What Is Your 2015-01-01 #IndieWeb Personal Site Launch Commitment? - http://tantek.com/2014/357/b1/2015-indieweb-site-launch-commitment #mozilla #mozillians mozilla (twitter.com/_/status/547580485049012225)
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@planetmozilla Tantek Çelik: What Is Your 2015-01-01 #IndieWeb Personal Site Launch Commitment? http://tantek.com/2014/357/b1/2015-indieweb-site-launch-commitment (twitter.com/_/status/547580708169220096)
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kylewm ben_thatmust: person tagging doesn't really work through the FB API
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Loqi kylewm: ben_thatmustbeme left you a message 1 day, 6 hours ago: I may have to steal your /imageproxy bit with a checksum scheme to include external images
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kylewm neat :D
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KartikPrabhu this mixed-content warning seems to need an avatar chache! bleh
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@EdgarsLabRat [moz] Tantek Çelik: What Is Your 2015-01-01 #IndieWeb Personal Site Launch Commitment? http://tantek.com/2014/357/b1/2015-indieweb-site-launch-commitment?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter (twitter.com/_/status/547581585856274432)
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KartikPrabhu blah! utm params!
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kylewm KartikPrabhu: I'm redirecting foreign images through an instance of https://github.com/agschwender/pilbox/ running on the same server
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kylewm it doesn't do any caching on its own; but it was relatively easy to configure nginx to do it
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kylewm as easy as any nginx configuration is (not that easy)
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KartikPrabhu so do you store avatars on your server?
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kylewm not anymore
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KartikPrabhu then how do you get aorund mixed content-type warnings?
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kylewm I mean, they are stored in nginx's cache
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KartikPrabhu oh ok gotcha
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KartikPrabhu but that cache does not contain really old avatars does it?
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kylewm nope
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kylewm design choice on my part
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KartikPrabhu yes. so if someone views a post with an old avatar, it will be dynamically generated from the source image and saved to cache and then displayed?
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kylewm yep
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kylewm and if old images disappear, I'm SOL
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KartikPrabhu SOL?
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kylewm hehe
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@bear RT @planetmozilla: Tantek Çelik: What Is Your 2015-01-01 #IndieWeb Personal Site Launch Commitment? http://tantek.com/2014/357/b1/2015-indieweb-site-launch-commitment (twitter.com/_/status/547582888947232768)
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kylewm out of luck
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KartikPrabhu ahh ok
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KartikPrabhu I wonder if images can be stored as base64 data strings and if it is better?
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KartikPrabhu at least for small images like avatars
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kylewm found out from thedod that that's how Twister does it
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kylewm https://dubiousdod.org/indie/2014/12/tor
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kylewm (check the avatar urls in that post)
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KartikPrabhu interesting...
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KartikPrabhu kylewm: an analysis: http://davidbcalhoun.com/2011/when-to-base64-encode-images-and-when-not-to/
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kylewm very thorough!
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@jensimmons RT @t: What Is Your 2015-01-01 #IndieWeb Personal Site Launch Commitment? http://tantek.com/2014/357/b1/2015-indieweb-site-launch-commitment (twitter.com/_/status/547601751126585344)
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GWG You people make me wish I was a better programmer
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@carywood I can't make a deadline of 1/1 but I am SO PRO THIS #IndieWeb. I hope to launch in January. Will need help, but ALL IN! @t @jensimmons (twitter.com/_/status/547603346987974656)
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@Transition RT @t: What Is Your 2015-01-01 #IndieWeb Personal Site Launch Commitment? http://tantek.com/2014/357/b1/2015-indieweb-site-launch-commitment (twitter.com/_/status/547604548466909184)
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@blognoon What Is Your 2015-01-01 #IndieWeb Personal Site Launch Commitment? - Tantek http://t.co/G3cE1zowMS, see more http://tweetedtimes.com/#!/RWW/semantic-web (twitter.com/_/status/547623319265357824)
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@TT_SemWeb What Is Your 2015-01-01 #IndieWeb Personal Site Launch Commitment? - Tantek http://t.co/kVSDIablWe, see more http://tweetedtimes.com/topic/RWW/semantic-web?s=tnp (twitter.com/_/status/547623320267792385)
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snarfed1 ben_thatmustbeme: re tagging people on fb via bridgy publish, feel free to follow https://github.com/snarfed/bridgy/issues/318 , or even send a PR!
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snarfed kylewm: huh, now i'm curious. https://developers.facebook.com/docs/graph-api/reference/v2.2/user/feed#publish says the API supports people tagging. have you tried it and it doesn't?
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kylewm snarfed: yeah, I tried it quite a bit
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kylewm not since the switch to 2.2
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kylewm https://indiewebcamp.com/POSSE_to_Facebook#Mention_Tagging
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kylewm trials documented here ^
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kylewm so I guess you can tag people as long as you are posting a "check-in"
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snarfed thanks for documenting
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Loqi Welcome, indie-visitor! Set your nickname by typing /nick yourname
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@semanticbot What Is Your 2015-01-01 IndieWeb Personal Site Launch Commitment? - Tantek , see more http://tantek.com/2014/357/b1/2015-indieweb-site-launch-commitment (twitter.com/_/status/547636298551685121)
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@cstanhope Inspired by all the #IndieWeb 2015-01-01 commitments. I'm committing to get to IndieMark Level 1. https://indiewebcamp.com/indiemark#Level_1 (twitter.com/_/status/547647066634080256)
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@nerkles RT @carywood: I can't make a deadline of 1/1 but I am SO PRO THIS #IndieWeb. I hope to launch in January. Will need help, but ALL IN! @t @j… (twitter.com/_/status/547652481476349953)
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KartikPrabhu tantek++ this commitment thing seems to have struck a chord!
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KartikPrabhu tantek: should the pilgrim protocol be activated only for 401s or also for 404s ? What is some site/post is down temporarily and I get a webmention from it (possibly by some one malicious?)
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@KimberleyTew RT @t: What Is Your 2015-01-01 #IndieWeb Personal Site Launch Commitment? http://tantek.com/2014/357/b1/2015-indieweb-site-launch-commitment (twitter.com/_/status/547673694529937409)
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@pierreozoux RT @elfpavlik: via @openizer https://yunohost.org "Keep calm and host yourself" @yunohost #IndieWeb @IndieHosters @SocialWebWG @unhosted… (twitter.com/_/status/547695355069231105)
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@IndieHosters RT @elfpavlik: via @openizer https://yunohost.org "Keep calm and host yourself" @yunohost #IndieWeb @IndieHosters @SocialWebWG @unhosted… (twitter.com/_/status/547695355635462144)
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GWG Good morning, all
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ben_thatmust morning
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GWG Morning, ben_thatmust
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eliemichel I have a question about known
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eliemichel Is it easy to implement the syndication toward my old homebrew blog engine?
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eliemichel ben_thatmust: ^ (if you are the 'ben' from known)
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GWG He isn't.
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eliemichel GWG: ok, I though he was…
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eliemichel So does anybody here know about known?
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eliemichel oh wait, is there come #known active channel?
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GWG Not sure
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ben_thatmust eliemichel, that ben goes by "benwerd" in here. that NOT the same as the benward thats in here now
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ben_thatmust have you tried to get a hold of someone via https://withknown.com/contact/
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eliemichel thx
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eliemichel I'll try the /contact ;)
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@mapkyca I think my #indieweb commitment for 2015 might be to find a way of importing and self hosting my photos (currently on flickr). (twitter.com/_/status/547780356301398018)
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@mapkyca Might be a case of a customised @withknown install - use the photo tool + skin to expose flickr's custom metadata #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/547780817616134144)
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GWG Hmm...I wouldn't mind hosting my photos. But I don't really like Gallery, which is the only software I know for that
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ben.thatmustbe.me edited /checkin (+181) "Adding myself to checkin examples" (view diff)
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@benwerd @mapkyca I think a micropub script could be a great answer here. #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/547787305738436608)
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ben.thatmustbe.me edited /2015-01-01-commitments (+78) "note my completetion" (view diff)
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ben.thatmustbe.me edited /User:Ben.thatmustbe.me (-22) "mark checkins done in todo list" (view diff)
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ben.thatmustbe.me edited /User:Ben.thatmustbe.me (+11) "/* Postly */ formating" (view diff)
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ben.thatmustbe.me edited /Postly (+10) "/* Current Features */ add checkins to post-types supported" (view diff)
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ben_thatmust completed my 2015 goal
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GWG ben_thatmustbeme++
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Loqi ben_thatmustbeme has 35 karma
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GWG ben_thatmust: Does this mean you need a new goal, or you set the bar low?
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bear ben_thatmustbeme++
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Loqi ben_thatmustbeme has 36 karma
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ben_thatmust i set the bar low as i don't know how much time i will have after this
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ben_thatmust not stopping me from moving on to my next project though
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ben_thatmust although i want to get person tagging working, I have another idea i am going to work on
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GWG Oh?
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ben_thatmust yeah, but its still early stages, no hints :P
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ben_thatmust also, it seems i need to fix commenting on my own posts, that definitely did not work correctly
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GWG I'm still refining my context stuff
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GWG I really want to make it easy to respond to things
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GWG It isn't there yet
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GWG ben_thatmust:
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GWG Do you find your posting UI easy to post?
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snarfed GWG: re photos, i assume you mean on WP?
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snarfed i've used nextgen gallery and the built in media albums, both are good
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snarfed and there are *tons* of other plugins
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GWG snarfed: I've heard there is some sort of problem with NextGen of late. I forget what
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GWG snarfed: But I keep a lot of my images privte
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GWG I don't share a lot of pictures.
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GWG I have pictures dating back to the 19th century
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snarfed sure. they all let you put albums inside posts, which you can make private
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snarfed i haven't heard that FUD about a nextgen gallery problem. it changed ownership a while ago - maybe that - but it's still fine and maintained
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GWG snarfed: I hadn't looked into it personally. But I trusted the source. I would look into it if I was adding
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snarfed GWG: sure. just weighing in since you said photos were an itch for you
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GWG snarfed: Yes. But I'm very itchy
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GWG snarfed: The biggest one is how long it takes me to produce a note of any type, POSSE and all. But I've been focusing on building the infrastructure.
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GWG I had this hybrid model, and I replaced it with a single method
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GWG snarfed: Can I pick your brain about that?
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snarfed GWG: sure
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GWG I made a major change to the taxonomy plugin I had, and decided to rewrite it to act more like post formats
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GWG Do you use post formats?
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snarfed GWG: nope
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snarfed always seemed like very little value, at least for me
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clintpatty is anyone here self-hosting on Intel Galileo?
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GWG snarfed: The majority of people don't, so it won't affect most people.
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snarfed GWG: so this change will improve your posting UI? or is it mostly a refactoring?
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GWG snarfed: I was using two post formats plus post kinds(types is a restricted word)
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GWG It's one less setting for me to use.
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snarfed so…more a UI improvement than a refactoring….?
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GWG Both, actually
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snarfed ok
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GWG It allowed me to simplify the code as well
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snarfed sounds good
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GWG But, basically, there is a box next to the content box as to whether it is a reply, bookmark, favorite, like, photo, RSVP, etc.
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GWG So, the next step is to add a settings page to disable the ones I'm not using right now.
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snarfed why?
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GWG snarfed: Because I can't decide if I like something, favorite it, bookmark it, etc.
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snarfed and hiding checkboxes will help you decide?!
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GWG snarfed: Fewer choices
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snarfed ko
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GWG Who am I knocking out?
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snarfed :P
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GWG But, it sets up for the next part.
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GWG There's a feature of WordPress that was rejected for admission to core called Post Formats UI.
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GWG It hid/displayed the UI elements relevant to the format
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ben_thatmust GWG: easy for what kind of post
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tantek KartikPrabhu: delayed response - yes you should only delete for 410, not 404 - I stand corrected (unless Twitter is returning a 410? is it? it should for deleted tweets, accounts, and tweets from deleted accounts)
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ben_thatmust posting a note i find it easy. if i use /new/note, checkins /new/checkin isn't bad
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tantek ben_thatmust: do you use /new for brevity? rather than a verb like /create ?
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ben_thatmust doesn't really matter to me, and new is shorter yes
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tantek ben_thatmust: perhaps add a small note about that decision to /URL_design ?
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snarfed GWG: at a high level, that work sounds good to me since it's improving your user-visible UI. (if i had any overall advice for you, it'd be to refactor less and worry about breaking backward compatibility less. this is all experimental stuff with tiny user bases - often just 1 - so iterating fast on actual features is the most useful thing to do.)
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tantek it's good to collect such microdecisions, especially when you have reasoning behind it
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ben_thatmust /create is actually used where it posts to for the actual create action
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tantek even more good details to add to /URL_design
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tantek snarfed++ "iterating fast on actual features is the most useful thing to do"
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GWG ben_thatmust: All of them?
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ben_thatmust GWG, reply's are obviously not great unless someone uses indie-config or something
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ben_thatmust but other that that, I don't have a problem with my posting UI
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tantek seeing a few more IndieWeb 2015-01-01 commitments
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ben_thatmust it could be prettier, but it works
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tantek I'm interpreting this as 2015-01-31: https://twitter.com/carywood/status/547603346987974656
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@carywood I can't make a deadline of 1/1 but I am SO PRO THIS #IndieWeb. I hope to launch in January. Will need help, but ALL IN! @t @jensimmons (twitter.com/_/status/547603346987974656)
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tantek this is solid: https://twitter.com/cstanhope/status/547647066634080256
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@cstanhope Inspired by all the #IndieWeb 2015-01-01 commitments. I'm committing to get to IndieMark Level 1. https://indiewebcamp.com/indiemark#Level_1 (twitter.com/_/status/547647066634080256)
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GWG snarfed: The only aspect of backward compatibility I don't want to break is the data structure I'm storing things in.
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GWG I made one change to it.
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tantek should we interpret "for 2015" as 2015-01-01 or 2015-12-31? e.g. https://twitter.com/mapkyca/status/547780356301398018
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@mapkyca I think my #indieweb commitment for 2015 might be to find a way of importing and self hosting my photos (currently on flickr). (twitter.com/_/status/547780356301398018)
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GWG I switched it from 3 variables to an array, so I could add things to it.
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GWG That's how I killed acegiak's site.
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GWG I still hold myself responsible for that.
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tantek he didn't have a backup?
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GWG tantek: I told him 4 times to backup because I was playing with the data.
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GWG I warned him because I knew it was a big change
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tantek GWG, then you were plenty up front. No need to blame yourself.
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GWG He's migrated to a solution of his own.
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tantek Which is fine too.
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tantek backups are everyone's own responsibility
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GWG tantek: Either way, there's no need to change the data structure now that it is expandable.
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GWG That's why I changed it. For myself. So I wouldn't have to reprocess old posts
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GWG That's why adding authorship was easy(well, not displaying it, but storing it)
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tantek GWG - the key is to decouple the in-code datastructure from the in-storage data structure so that you can change one without affecting/breaking the other.
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tantek in-code datastructure <-> storage API <-> in-storage data structure (AKA file format or database schema)
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snarfed GWG: and tantek is right that you gave plenty of warning. young, immature code is *expected* to break. it's ok. try not to let that fear drive your priorities or designs.
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GWG tantek: I did that. But not in the first version. I learned.
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kylewm curious about whether twitter serves 410, does anybody know a url of a deleted account? i can only find suspended...
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tantek GWG - that's ok too. It actually does make sense to hardcode things just to ship something, and then abstract later, only as needed.
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tantek kylewm: the account that had replied to KartikPrabhu's post, but he deleted the comment.
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GWG tantek: As for the acegiak thing, even he understands, I think. I just still feel bad about it.
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kylewm 404 :(
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aaronpk !tell anomalily here's info on the "See Original" link I was talking about https://indiewebcamp.com/POSSE_to_Facebook#See_Original https://developers.facebook.com/docs/graph-api/reference/v2.2/user/feed#publish
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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ben_thatmust not really seeing a good section to add that to. I will add my notes on it later
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ben_thatmust for /URL_design that is
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aaronpk i'm not finding info on POSSEing "likes" to facebook here https://indiewebcamp.com/POSSE_to_Facebook
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aaronpk who is doing that?
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aaronpk bridgy does that right?
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GWG I think Bridgy does
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snarfed yes it does
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tantek ben_thatmust: (new) section "Brainstorming", subsection "Ben Roberts", then just copy/paste about /new vs. /create
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aaronpk snarfed: I can't find API docs on facebook for how to do that
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snarfed https://www.brid.gy/about#like
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tantek nice
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aaronpk facebook api says you have to use the like button and the API doesn't support it
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snarfed aaronpk: huh. maybe they removed it in api v2.x? seems unlikely
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snarfed here's my code: https://github.com/snarfed/activitystreams-unofficial/blob/master/facebook.py#L396 . just a POST to /[id]/likes
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aaronpk nope it has said it doesn't support it since 1.0 https://developers.facebook.com/docs/graph-api/reference/v1.0/user/likes
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snarfed no params beyond oauth token
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GWG They are removing XMPP in 2, I think
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aaronpk oh funny
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snarfed that's for pages, not posts
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snarfed here: https://developers.facebook.com/docs/graph-api/reference/v1.0/object/likes#publish
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aaronpk if you go look at a different part of the docs it says it's possible https://developers.facebook.com/docs/graph-api/reference/v2.2/object/likes
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aaronpk i didn't realize I was looking at the pages part of the API docs
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snarfed yup. that's the one
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aaronpk FB API is weird
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snarfed whee complexity
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tantek snarfed I read about#like - questions, does Bridgy support POSSEing a like as fave to Twitter? likes to Instagram?
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snarfed tantek: twitter yes, IG no since it has no write API
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aaronpk IG does support liking via the api
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tantek snarfed - not even for liking?!? wow.
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aaronpk it has a special oauth scope and everythign
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aaronpk I have a physical "like" button for IG now, part of http://goinstacube.com/
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snarfed ah, sorry, right, it has a private write API
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snarfed https://indiewebcamp.com/Instagram#API
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snarfed wait, nm, IG's like API evidently works now. i said so myself. my memory is worthless :P
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tantek snarfed, feature request filed: https://github.com/snarfed/bridgy/issues/326
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snarfed tantek: thanks!
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tantek if that's already supported, apologies, and turn it into a documentation feature request ;)
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snarfed nope, not supported yet
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tantek if there's already Bridgy documentation about that feature, then turn it into a documentation request to link from https://www.brid.gy/about#like to the documentation ;)
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tantek snarfed, thanks, added documentation request to the issue also :)
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tantek snarfed, I assume no Bridgy Publish support of likes to Foursquare/Swarm checkins either then?
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snarfed tantek: nope, largely since i don't use them
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snarfed i think there's an issue for it
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tantek ok I'll file it while it's in mind
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tantek will search first
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snarfed nm, i don't see an issue. feel free!
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tantek added: https://github.com/snarfed/bridgy/issues/327
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tantek is trying to think of what else he likes.
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snarfed g+, at least for me, but no +1 api there either :/
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aaronpk tantek: spampk just favorited your tweet :)
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tantek wat
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aaronpk (i'm working on POSSEing likes)
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tantek not testpk?
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aaronpk not as catchy
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tantek snarfed, I don't remember that last time I posted any interactions to G+ - might have been earlier this year?
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aaronparecki.com edited /POSSE_to_Facebook (+659) "/* See Original */ add PHP example code" (view diff)
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aaronpk oh man this turned into a bigger project
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aaronpk thinking about adding publishing likes into Quill kind of like bridgy publish
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tantek nice!
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GWG tantek: How is your commitment going?
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tantek I'm working on a previous commitment - a batch of edits to CSS3-UI
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KevinMarks_ If you want some deleted tweets to check, http://epeus.blogspot.com/2012/04/draw-something-ceo-grace-and-high.html has a couple
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aaronpk !tell snarfed you had to explicitly request "publish_actions" approval from facebook in order to publish likes for people, right?
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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KevinMarks here's some web standards advocacy you may have forgotten: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Shu6_lO1PW8&t=74m27s
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gRegor` For kicks, https://isitchristmas.com and open the console in developer tools for secret chat options.
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aaronpk wow so many rabbit holes
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aaronpk i have to create a privacy policy page in order for facebook to let me post likes
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aaronpk and the app has to go through a review proces
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aaronpk holy hell this is more work than I wanted to do right now
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KevinMarks I used a privacy policy generator site as paypal wanted one
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aaronpk ha good idea
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KevinMarks https://www.freeprivacypolicy.com
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KevinMarks it's powered by TrustGuard®
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snarfed aaronpk: i think i was grandfathered in for publish_actions
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snarfed or maybe it doesn't require the review
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Loqi snarfed: aaronpk left you a message 14 minutes ago: you had to explicitly request "publish_actions" approval from facebook in order to publish likes for people, right?
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aaronpk publish actions does now I thin
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aaronpk k
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snarfed huh, ok
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snarfed try using it just to be sure
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snarfed the only one i needed the big review process for was rsvp_event
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aaronpk they've done ap retty good job of walking me through everything
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snarfed yeah. the humans involved are iffy though
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aaronpk heh
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snarfed to be fair, this is an unusual use case
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snarfed we went back and forth a few times and they finally said, take a screencast. which i did: https://www.brid.gy/about#like
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aaronpk even just for posting status updates from an app tho
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aaronpk oh wow you did?
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snarfed reluctantly :P
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aaronpk oh boy what did I just sign myself up for
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KevinMarks the privacy policy thing si a good move in some ways - you can be prosecuted in california if you don't have one
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aaronpk yeah it's true
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snarfed i know it doesn't need to be said…but you could just polyfill the annoying api part for now with bridgy publish (as long as you send wms) and circle back later :P
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aaronpk probably other countries too
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aaronpk well I was trying to do this right
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snarfed oh sure, i get that
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aaronpk at least I can get an access token for my own account in the mean time
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snarfed it'd just let you get running end to end faster, ie do your data model, UI, etc instead
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aaronpk i think i'll be fine cause at least I can get this going with my own account. the only thing it won't work for is if other people try to use it
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snarfed i think they might let you do everything w/your own account, so you can at least test
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snarfed heh jinx
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snarfed hey kylewm, you around?
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ben_thatmust GWG: what was the question about posting UI about anyway?
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KartikPrabhu Loqi playback?
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Loqi who, me?
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@opera_dp Tantek: What Is Your 2015-01-01 #IndieWeb Personal Site Launch Commitment? #opera http://dragplus.com/notfound?&utm_source=site&utm_medium=web&utm_campaign=go&utm_term=notfound (twitter.com/_/status/547881929626755072)
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aaronpk i don't understand why the URLs Loqi follows sometimes end up at invalid things
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aaronpk maybe he's not pretending to be human enough
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KartikPrabhu tantek: restored that comment from Twitter for testig purposes. It seems Twitter gives a 404 and so the Pilgrim Protocol does not work!
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KartikPrabhu that is what I was concerned about. I don't want to delete comments due to 404
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KartikPrabhu wondering why the first 3 likes here: https://www.brid.gy/twitter/kartik_prabhu#responses did not show up in my Twitter notifications? Too old a tweet?
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KartikPrabhu or did bridgy just find older favs?
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tantek KartikPrabhu: yes that's right. we should add that as an issue to /Twitter#Issues - they need to return 410 for deleted tweets, deleted accounts, and tweets of deleted accounts
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tantek and then perhaps we can start discussion silo-specific exceptions to the Pilgrim Protocol - that is - perhaps we can use page content to detect when e.g. a twitter.com 404 is actually a deletion.
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@davidpeach1 My IndieWeb Commitment 2015-01-01 : Get retweeting and favourites / likes working from site, posseing them to Twitter. (twitter.com/_/status/547892600569864192)
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aaronpk wow!
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aaronpk if my own likes were working right now I would like that
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tantek davidpeach++ way to one-up ;) favorites AND retweets
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Loqi davidpeach has 5 karma
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KartikPrabhu ooo just found my 2014 indieweb resolution: https://kartikprabhu.com/article/first-note and I did complete it :D
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GWG KartikPrabhu++
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Loqi KartikPrabhu has 85 karma
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GWG ben_thatmust: About earlier...the hardest part of posting content is how many steps it takes me
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aaronpk holy crap are there really no good php twitter libraries out there?
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aaronpk i feel like the internet is conspiring against me finishing this today
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GWG aaronpk: If you find any...
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aaronpk currently attempting https://github.com/ruudk/twitteroauth
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aaronpk ugh. the examples there don't actually work after the changes he made
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