#indiewebcamp 2014-09-06

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KevinMarks_ hm, also idempotence issues, sorry
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benwerd Who's behind theindieweb.com?
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Loqi [mention] https://david.shanske.com/articles/2014/04/29/design-obsession/ linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/Selfdogfood (webmention)
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aaronpk he popped in IRC a while ago
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aaronpk ryan020
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aaronpk on IRC
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KevinMarks__ It's like a manual indienews
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KevinMarks__ Which I keep forgetting about
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aaronpk I like the presentation
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aaronpk I want to update indienews to use your microsyntax for quotations
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aaronpk so it'd be easier to submit other people's stuff and it would be able to feature a blockquote as well
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aaronpk http://indiewebcamp.com/microsyntax#quotations
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KevinMarks__ Also supported by savepublishing.com
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KevinMarks__ I need to hack that to create fragmentions
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KevinMarks__ And to post to micropub
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aaronpk oh neat
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aaronpk wait does this find sentences that are <120 chars so you can find tweetable sentences?
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aaronpk that's nuts
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KevinMarks__ Clever. I use it quite a lot
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KevinMarks__ Though sometimes I will elide a quote from a longer sentence
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KevinMarks__ Hm, could the #indieweb hashtag be a trigger for indienews if there is a link in it?
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aaronpk probably yeah
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KevinMarks__ Or could I make the save publishing bookmarklet send a webmention too?
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aaronpk ideally it'd be hooked up via PuSH or something
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aaronpk like indienews could subscribe to your PuSH updates, and any posts tagged #indieweb would come in
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aaronpk so you'd just ping your hub when you publish something
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aaronpk which is kind of like a webmention
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aaronpk at least as easy as a webmention
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KevinMarks__ I use the #indieweb hashtag on twitter a lot both to throw things in here and to send them to pinboard
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KevinMarks__ Hm, wonder if this is a known feature idea - map hashtags to webmention urls
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KevinMarks__ There is a lot of hub thinking in the institutional known installations
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aaronpk probably if I updated indienews to be a PuSH consumer people might actually have a reason to start publishing to a hub
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KevinMarks__ Though you'd still have to subscribe to them, wouldn't you?
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aaronpk indienews would be the subscriber, and would essentially re-publish a stream
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gRegor` !tell snarfed Back in the land of 400s and 401s. :) https://www.brid.gy/log?start_time=1409971013&key=aglzfmJyaWQtZ3lyUAsSDVB1Ymxpc2hlZFBhZ2UiKWh0dHA6Ly9ncmVnb3Jsb3ZlLmNvbS9ub3Rlcy8yMDE0LzA5LzA1LzQvDAsSB1B1Ymxpc2gYgICAgIDkkQoM
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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gRegor` !tell I successfully cross-posted a couple earlier today, one was in-reply-to.
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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gRegor` Er
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gRegor` !tell snarfed I successfully cross-posted a couple earlier today, one was in-reply-to.
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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@joeld Interested in adding webmention support, but will probably just have them emailed to me to start with. (twitter.com/_/status/508088180579794944)
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aaronpk just realized tantek's instagram posts are going to his tumblr. hmm.
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aaronpk oh snap. Standard Markdown is now known as CommonMark
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aaronpk http://commonmark.org/
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GWG They named it after KevinMarks?
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GWG Sorry, first random silly thought that came to mind.
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aaronpk whoa just went to foursquare.com for the first time in a while (have been using Swarm a lot but not the website)
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aaronpk it too has converged on the facebook+twitter design
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GWG aaronpk: How do you feel about that?
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aaronpk it was quite jarring
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aaronpk wait what
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aaronpk it doesn't show my checkins, it shows the tips i've left
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GWG I don't want people to know how I tipped.
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aaronpk weiiiird
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aaronpk ha
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GWG Oversharing.
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KevinMarks__ Try m.foursquare.com
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KevinMarks__ Foursquare is now tips; swarm is friends
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KevinMarks__ Swarm is the return of dodgeball
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KevinMarks__ But the mobile site is the launch UI preserved
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snarfed gRegor`: sorry bridgy publish is giving you so much trouble :/
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snarfed i'll keep debugging
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Loqi snarfed: gRegor` left you a message 1 hour, 49 minutes ago: Back in the land of 400s and 401s. :) https://www.brid.gy/log?start_time=1409971013&key=aglzfmJyaWQtZ3lyUAsSDVB1Ymxpc2hlZFBhZ2UiKWh0dHA6Ly9ncmVnb3Jsb3ZlLmNvbS9ub3Rlcy8yMDE0LzA5LzA1LzQvDAsSB1B1Ymxpc2gYgICAgIDkkQoM
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Loqi snarfed: gRegor` left you a message 1 hour, 47 minutes ago: I successfully cross-posted a couple earlier today, one was in-reply-to.
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Loqi snarfed: gRegor` left you a message 1 hour, 47 minutes ago: I successfully cross-posted a couple earlier today, one was in-reply-to.
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gRegor` snarfed: You might check the contents of my page bridgy gets when I used bridgy publish. benwerd said my wm to him failed because my site had a PHP error, but I've not been able to duplicate it yet.
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snarfed gRegor`: thanks! but the 400s are a bridgy bug and the 401s come from twitter. i don't understand either yet. :/
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gRegor` Woo, I have a basic messaging queue working on shared hosting. Cron can spawn worker processes instead of needing to query the database now.
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snarfed gRegornobacktick++
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Loqi gRegornobacktick has 13 karma
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gRegor` I feel much better about an every minute cron doing that instead of hitting the database to see if there's anything
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kylewm that's pretty awesome, gRegor`! shared hosting lets you run cron tasks?
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gRegor` Dreamhost does, at least.
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gRegor` I think GoDaddy does, too.
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kylewm and that gives you on average 30 seconds to catch mistakes before you send out webmentions :P
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gRegor` It's pretty cool having a shell open on the server with the worker running, clicking "save" on a test page, and seeing the shell update immediately :)
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gRegor` Heh, good point. :)
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gRegor` Might be near instant, actually. The PHP semaphore is blocking and this code is just a while loop waiting for messages, no exit. The cron will just make sure a couple of them are running every minute.
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kylewm oh!
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gRegor` It's all kinda new to me, so we'll see. Fun times.
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kylewm is the message queue in the DB?
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gRegor` No, memory
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kylewm huh, whose memory?
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kylewm (not being glib, actually confused)
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gRegor` Server, shared memory
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gRegor` "This module provides wrappers for the System V IPC family of functions. It includes semaphores, shared memory and inter-process messaging (IPC)."
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gRegor` When I run `ipcs at the shell, it shows shared memory segments, semaphore arrays, and message queues. Mine is listed under the latter.
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gRegor` Don't know if that clears anything up :)
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kylewm pretty high tech stuff there, gRegor`
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gRegor` ::pushes up glasses:: just your basic quantum computing...
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gRegor` The code itself is quite simple, actually. I'm still surprised. http://www.ebrueggeman.com/blog/creating-a-message-queue-in-php
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snarfed system v, hoo boy
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snarfed old school posix
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snarfed hey gRegor`, looks like you got a 400 around 7:33, then re-signed up for bridgy (listen) at around 7:36, then got a 401?
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snarfed (er sorry, those are PST)
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gRegor` Yeah.
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gRegor` By 'signed up' . . . bridgy always has me authenticate when I visit.
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snarfed …really? now i'm confused
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gRegor` I thought that's how it's always worked, haha
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snarfed when you say "visit," what specifically are you doing?
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gRegor` I go to https://www.brid.gy/ and see "Get Started" and click on Twitter...
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snarfed ahahahaha
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snarfed funny, ok. yeah, that's like re-signing up from the beginning
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snarfed you can just go straight to your user page(s)
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gRegor` Ahh. Well i haven't visited very regularly since I got publish set up. :)
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snarfed :P np. just bookmark your user page, or use the 'Find your user page here' link on the front page
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gRegor` doesn't mind the big "Already signed up?" at the bottom. Hahaha
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gRegor` That doesn't explain the 400 though? Or the 401?
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snarfed it might help
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snarfed thanks
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gRegor` But I cross-posted twice today, then got a 400 on the third
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gRegor` Before re-signing up
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snarfed yeah, i'm still somewhat confused too
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gRegor` There aren't overarching user pages, right, just the individual service pages, like https://www.brid.gy/twitter/gRegorLove and https://www.brid.gy/facebook/27301982 ?
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snarfed gRegor`: right
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snarfed bridgy's not exactly a pillar of good UX
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snarfed eh
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gRegor` Heh, not a criticism. It makes sense.
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gRegor` I think I never questioned the "get started" buttons because indieauth doesn't hold on to my auth information either.
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snarfed https://github.com/snarfed/bridgy/issues/38
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snarfed np!
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snarfed gRegor`: if you go to https://twitter.com/settings/applications , does it say bridgy has read/write permissions, or just read?
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gRegor` read only. resetting.
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gRegor` So bridgy isn't always properly aware of the permissions it has, looks like?
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gRegor` Or at least not when a silly user keeps re-signing up after enabling publishing :)
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kylewm it sounds like when you "log in", it replaces your read-and-write key with the new read-only key
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snarfed gRegor`: thanks. i probably see how that happens. not sure if i can ask twitter which permissions a token has, but i *should* always know beforehand
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snarfed kylewm: for twitter yes, but that's probably an easy bridgy bug to fix
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kylewm cool
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gRegor` One would think that should be a basic feature of an API, but it is Twitter after all. :)
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snarfed this is the company that basically let an entire API (userstream) break and stay broken for months, and report it as such, and do nothing about it: https://dev.twitter.com/status
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kylewm ^ isn't that like the whole point of dogfooding
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kylewm so you don't do that
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gRegor` Wee, publishing works.
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gRegor` And should keep working. :)
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@alpower Enjoying some really good strong coffee - nice way to start the day before #indiewebcamp @ Small Batch… http://instagram.com/p/smFhb4i5sJ/ (twitter.com/_/status/508149543074922496)
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KevinMarks_ twitter used to be api first, apps second. then they changed
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@AndrewJohnMarks Brighton-bound from London Victoria for #indieweb. That's two firsts in one day. #indiewebnoob (twitter.com/_/status/508153647679950849)
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KevinMarks__ Andrewmarks++
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Loqi Andrewmarks has 1 karma
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neuro` Good morning
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KevinMarks__ Hipster spiders
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KevinMarks__ Check out @emmajlaw's Tweet: https://twitter.com/emmajlaw/status/508156222521245696
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@emmajlaw @AndrewJohnMarks is this where a bunch of hipster spiders get together and talk about how much they love Los Campesinos? (twitter.com/_/status/508156222521245696)
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@hecavanagh Stuck in bed so can't make first day of #IndieWebCamp :( Have fun everyone! Hope to try as Remote Participant later & make it irl tomorrow. (twitter.com/_/status/508162445819789312)
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@icco On the train to Brighton and @indiewebcampuk! Biggest question is where to get good coffee in Brighton before hand... (twitter.com/_/status/508164363778138112)
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@brianmario @icco @indiewebcampuk maybe @dannygreg or @lukehefson would know? (twitter.com/_/status/508165029762322432)
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Loqi [mention] https://brid-gy.appspot.com/like/twitter/benwerd/507256881035755520/3576561 linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/2014/UK (webmention)
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@simonperry Darn. Wish I'd seen this earlier. @IndieWebCampUK 2014 is on in Brighton today. Go if you can - It's the future http://indiewebcamp.com/2014/UK (twitter.com/_/status/508168057303613440)
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aaronpk oh man indiewebcamp uk is starting soon and i'm still awake on PDT
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aaronpk wonder if I can pull off another 3-hour night of sleep and wake up around the time it starts
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@alpower @onishiweb about to head to the clearleft offices for #indiewebcamp - where are you? (twitter.com/_/status/508168837737766913)
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aaronpk oh definitely too late for that
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@ShaneHudson Running slightly late for @IndieWebCampUK, anyone know a good place for coffee near it? (twitter.com/_/status/508169155020070912)
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tommorris.org edited /2014/UK/Schedule (-64) "changed 4-column to 3-column" (view diff)
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tommorris aaronpk: we start in about half an hour. :)
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aaronpk oh dear
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aaronpk i need a nap
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aaronpk also do you have plans for food and such? i have $$ I can contribute to food things
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KevinMarks_ what's the plan for streaming?
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aaronpk i thihnk tantek brought his logitech camera. will probably set up a talky.io url
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aaronpk oh man i wish i could stay up. i'm gonna try to get up in 3 hours thos.
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@BarnabyWalters Checked into 68 Middle St. for http://indiewebcamp.com/2014/UK day 1. There’s still time+space for last-m… https://waterpigs.co.uk/notes/4Xz8eH/ (twitter.com/_/status/508172582169100289)
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KevinMarks_ aaronpk: the brighton food festival is on, so you can send cash for people to go buy things maybe
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Loqi [mention] https://brid-gy.appspot.com/like/twitter/BarnabyWalters/508172582169100289/1432439216 linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/2014/UK (webmention)
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@jkphl On my way to the @clearleft offices for @IndieWebCampUK day 1 — my first one . Exciting day ahead :) (twitter.com/_/status/508174937123987456)
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hmans Regarding Ello... http://hmans.io/hne271
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waterpigs.co.uk edited /https (-101) "/* IndieMark Levels */ moved myself to Level 2" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /2014/UK (+43) "/* Participating */ no session proposals, we're live" (view diff)
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tantek.com created /2014/UK/Introductions (+57) "stub with need to clone" (view diff)
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barnabywalters_ good morning indiewebcamp!
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KevinMarks_ morning
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neuro` Good morning barnabywalters_, KevinMarks_
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Loqi Welcome, indie-visitor! Set your nickname by typing /nick yourname
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tommorris.org edited /2014/UK/Schedule (+83) "expanding room details" (view diff)
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KevinMarks_ do we have a stream?
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icco Not that I'm aware of, but tantek_ is up front fiddling with all kinds of technology.
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barnabywalters_ okay, remote participation is up at https://talky.io/indiewebcamp
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barnabywalters_ I see a KevinMarks!
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KevinMarks_ I'm in and muted
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barnabywalters_ cool, can you hear us okay?
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KevinMarks_ nice shirt, barnaby
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barnabywalters_ thanks :) — got it from briansuda
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KevinMarks_ I can hear a lot of people saying rhubarb rhubarb
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neuro` I can hear you barnabywalters_ but I'm muted it seems.
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barnabywalters_ neuro`: hello! Yep, I can see you fine but can’t hear you
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KevinMarks_ hi fred
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KevinMarks_ OK, I'm going to go get a drink of water brb
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tommorris.org edited /2014/UK/Introductions (+1677) "cloning with a few amends" (view diff)
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neuro` I wish IndiwWebCamp Brighton was not so close to the French back to school day :(
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KevinMarks_ hm, intermittent stream
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neuro` same here
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neuro` but I still see you
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KevinMarks_ barnaby, can you check the net conenction on the steram?
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tantek.com edited /2014/UK/Introductions (-1) "3 things for sessions" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /2014/UK/Introductions (+2) "3rd UK" (view diff)
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tommorris I am trying out a new map server, but the signup and UI is all in German. ;-)
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AndrewMarks All rather surreal seeing people waving at dad's face on a laptop.
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tommorris hey tantek
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ShaneHudson Quite a lag in the real time
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KevinMarks_ hi alex
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KevinMarks_ tantek is geeking out and I can't read his screen
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alexhartley Hi Kevin. Just seen your tweet.
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KevinMarks_ there is a video feed too
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KevinMarks_ https://talky.io/indiewebcamp
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KevinMarks_ is barnaby up now?
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tantek doing intros/demos
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tantek I just demonstrated /https Level 2 support on my site tantek.com
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tantek also showed that relmeauth.php is currently broken so I need help with that
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tantek demonstrated signing in with @t - using Twitter for sign-in to my own site
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tantek showed that the session cookie that is set is sent on Encrypted Connections Only
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KevinMarks_ tantek: can you move the laptop forward so the screen is more legible?
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tantek KevinMarks_: barnabywalters is the remote helper
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tantek Jeremy Keith is demonstrating adactio.com
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tantek noted he got webmentions working last year
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tantek since then he got notes posting working on his site
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tantek including POSSEing to Twitter
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tantek when he's logged into his own site
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tantek he goes to adactio.com/notes
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tantek it has a textarea at the top
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tantek because he's logged in
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tantek he posts a note there, which automatically POSSEs to Twitter
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tantek then using Bridgy, anyone who @-replies, or likes etc. shows up on his post original
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tantek also he has a "Choose File" button below his textarea
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tantek he can choose a picture
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tantek which posts it to his own site
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tantek storing photos on his own site
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tantek will see how hosting fees go
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tantek he stores various forms of the image
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tantek uses srcset to serve small.jpg medium.jpg or large.jpg
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tantek in the version of the image/photo post on his home page
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tantek POSSEs the photo to Twitter
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tantek also POSSEs it to Flickr
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tantek still hasn't moved his archives from Flickr to his own site
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tantek but nevermind the history, from now on, he hasn't given Flickr anything new
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tantek all the photos on Flickr since he implemented this are copies
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tantek Jeremy narrows the window
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tantek shows responsive design on his adactio.com/notes
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tantek that it works, e.g. for a phone display
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tantek wanted to POSSE to Instagram but no API to post there
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tantek there is ownyourgram, which does a PESOS
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KevinMarks_ barnabywalters: video went out of focus
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tantek Jeremy may try to get another instances of his updated software running
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tantek on his wife Jessica's site
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tantek tomorrow
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tantek up next: tommorris
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tantek tommorris.org
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tantek posts notes on there
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tantek primarily text based
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tantek occassionally photos and such
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tantek added recently: articles section: tommorris.org/articles
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tantek uses Mozilla Persona to sign-in
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tantek he's using Rails, using Omniauth
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tantek Persona was the only thing that didn't need an API Key!
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tantek because he's not starting an app, he's signing into a website!
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tantek aside: Jeremy said he may also work on adding https support at least level 2 to his admin page
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tantek when Tom is logged in
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tantek it just shows his posting interface at the top of his home page tommorris.org
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tantek with title, text content, check boxes for POSSE to Facebook and Twitter
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tantek also has a full posting interface
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tantek with tags, lat, long, location label, License popup
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tantek feature he's added recently
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tantek tommorris.org/places
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tantek using geodienste.lyrk.de for map tiles, which they also serve over https
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tantek each place he can associate with different things
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tantek each place has an edit link
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tantek each place has a lat long and an OpenStreetMap reference
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tantek clicking on that goes to the OpenStreetMap object for that place
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tantek also has a Add New Venue UI
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tantek would like to post photos on there at some point
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tantek because still currently using Flickr, and Wikimedia commons
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tantek also wants to work on image resizing
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tantek Jeremy offers to show his code for doing that.
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tantek Sam Machin
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tantek sammachin.com
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KevinMarks_ who's up?
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tantek rather than posting things, working on owning his own communications
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tantek last year showed WebRTC to make a call
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tantek the idea is that we can replace all forms of phones with URLs
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tantek you call me by going to my page
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tantek your contacts become your bookmarks
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tantek goes to sammachin.github.io/talk/
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tantek front end code is running on github
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tantek a lot of backend infrastructure you have to do to get working
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tantek so he's doing that as a separate open source setup
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tantek for the backend infrastructure
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tantek and separate static HTML+CSS to do the call stuff
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tantek "Voicemail is shit. Everyone hates it." -sammachin
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KevinMarks_ who's up?
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tantek up next Nat Welch AKA icco
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tantek had the inverse problem
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tantek had a bunch of sites that did webmentions and such
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tantek got rid of his entire hosting system
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tantek on the train ride over here
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tantek started version 2.0
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tantek old sites: pseudoweb.net (long form, markdown), sadnet.com (for people to tweet at him, site about when he was sad about thing)
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tantek … tumble.io scraped pinboard links
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tantek next version is /natnatnat
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tantek as of four hours ago
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tantek next up is voxpelli_
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tantek at last year's IndieWebCamp
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tantek got tired of hosting his own server
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tantek everytime he wanted to do something
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tantek it was hard because he had to update Linux
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tantek so he's switched to github pages for everything
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tantek last year's IWC UK, worked on server for embedding webmentions on static pages
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tantek uses Jekyll on github pages
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tantek voxpelli.com
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tantek add a form at the bottom of each post like Jeremy for people to send their webmentions
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tantek it's embedded with JS
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tantek it pulls down the webmentions and displays them inline
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tantek the other service is a Heroku app
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tantek webmention.herokuapp.com
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tantek you just sign in with github
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tantek you add a basic rel=webmention link (it gives you the <link> code to copy / paste to your posts)
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tantek and it also gives you the <script> to embed
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tantek in addition wrote a tool to test webmentions
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tantek including XSS tests
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tantek tool is called "webmention-testpinger"
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tantek also included in his webmention endpoint
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tantek it runs everytime automatically with every deployment
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tantek and runs the tests and makes sure they all pass
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tantek his herokuapp uses Glenn's microformats2js parser to retrieve the actual content of mentions
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tantek up next Glenn Jones
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tantek last year showed that he writes the articles on his blog are in HTML
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tantek in a folder
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tantek syncs automatically to his server
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tantek but these days mostly uses his phone
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tantek writing texts, taking pictures, checkins
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tantek went to build a completely new system
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tantek transmat.io
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tantek shows transmat.io/glnnjones
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tantek s/glnnjones/glennjones
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tantek shows transmat.io/glennjones
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Loqi tantek meant to say: s/glennjones/glennjones
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tantek goes to transmat.io/glennjones/add
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tantek shows a Post UI with textarea
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tantek uses ContentEditable area
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tantek it's one of the worst pieces of the standard to work with
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tantek automatically links URLs, @-names, hashtags
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tantek optional photo, checkin, reply
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tantek and public/private lock toggle
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tantek clicking the reply option shows a "in-reply-to" URL field
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tantek currently the auto-linking of @-names and #-tags links to twitter profiles and hashtag searches
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tantek added UI to "Push to" (POSSE) to other sites, e.g. Twitter
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tantek UI to *set up* POSSE, which is then automatic
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tantek everything in the system, if you put /json at the end, gives the JSON microformats for it
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tantek the JSON is always just generated by parsing the HTML of the page that is generated
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tantek shows a "store at" UI for archiving/backing up his transmat posts
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tantek e.g. as static files on his local laptop
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tantek all this HTML has the microformats markup of the original
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tantek and a special manifest with offline CSS file
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tantek over the last year has been building it up experimentally
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tantek shows how bridgy is connected to his permalinks too
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tantek showing favorites and replies
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tantek shows ANOTHER feature
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tantek "Reclaim your Tweets"
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tantek you upload a Twitter zip file archive
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tantek Loads all your old tweets into Transmat
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tantek Glenn has imported all his old tweets to his own sites
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tantek including interactions with each tweet like favorites, retweets, and replies
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tantek Transmat is all built on Node.js
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tantek as he goes through the tweets, he imports the account information for everyone he's interacted with
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tantek transmat.io/glennjones/people
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tantek goal is to eventually do autocomplete with that info while typing
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tantek has started adding places also
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tantek transmat.io/glennjones/places
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tantek can edit a place
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tantek with a geofence
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tantek lat long radius
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tantek has a near.html page for figuring out which of *his* Places are nere where he is now
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tantek up next
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tantek Shane Hudson
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tantek last time he was here was trying to use WordPress using webmention
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tantek gave up and wrote his own CMS
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tantek and gave up again and started to use Craft
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tantek has not pushed it live yet
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tantek www.shanehudson.net still uses WordPress
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tantek last night built a geolocation thing (plugin?) for his Craft CMS
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tommorris http://buildwithcraft.com/
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tantek it automatically finds his geo
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tantek provides UI to enter heading, body, tags, mentioned URLs
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tantek has got webmentions working
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tantek somebody wrote a plugin for sending, so he wrote a plugin for receiving them
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tantek in order to switch to Craft, needs to move interactions on his WordPress posts to his Craft CMS
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tantek next up
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tantek Andrew Marks
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tantek has a Known install setup
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tantek at andrewmarks.media
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tantek has a soundcloud page - he makes music
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tantek also has a film blog on WordPress
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tantek quickly shows Known
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tantek shows posting photo
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tommorris I'm waiting for AndrewMarks to say "nice blogspot, dad, do you POSSE it to MySpace?" ;-)
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KevinMarks_ feels trolled
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tantek shows location checkin
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tantek quickly locates 68 Middle street
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ShaneHudson The craft version of my site is at http://www.shanehudson.co.uk/shanehudson.new/ btw, has webmentions and fragmentions etc
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tantek exploring IndieWeb stuff
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tantek up next
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tantek Tim
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tantek retout.co.uk
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tantek Debian developer has discovered IndieWeb 2 weeks ago
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tantek shows his home page
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tantek backend in Node
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tantek has posts
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tantek using pump.io - set it up on his website the other weekend
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tantek shows that he has A+ SSL
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tantek up next
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tantek Rosa
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ShaneHudson Just noticed that my CSS doesn't work over https... should fix that!
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tantek has been working as web developer for 7 months!
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tantek static site, blog is linked to WordPress
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tantek techfoxuk.wordpress.com
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tantek with rails has built a basic outline and deployed to Heroku
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tantek will be working on that this weekend
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KevinMarks_ oh now
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tantek up next
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tantek barnabywalters:
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KevinMarks_ barnaby dropped the stream :(
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KevinMarks_ got a screen too
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tantek Barnaby Walters
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tantek waterpigs.co.uk
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tantek now demoing shrewdness.waterpigs.co.uk
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tantek wanted to build a reader
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tantek fed up with looking at 20 different sites
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tantek didn't want to write a reader
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tantek rather, didn't want to have to visit twitter to read people's stuff
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tantek first got distracted and built open source yahoo pipes called "intertubes"
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tantek then got back to his use-case
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tommorris It's Yahoo! Pipes but without the sunsetting feature.
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neuro` Wow, awesome barnabywalters_
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tantek built Shrewdness - essentially a Tweetdeck clone
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neuro` impressive
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tantek you can subscribe to a bunch of URLs
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tantek e.g. twitter-style firehose feed of everyone he follows on twitter
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tantek this doesn't touches the twitter API at all
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tantek it only parses microformats2
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tantek and still gets twitter info
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tantek via a twitter to microformats2 proxy converter
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tantek second column is his mentions
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tantek all webmentions to his site show up there
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tantek third column is search
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tantek using elastic search on the backend
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tantek can't figure out what it means by relevant, so just uses ordered by date
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tantek demonstrates multiple searches
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tantek creating a new search column
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tantek barnabywalters site supports micropub
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tantek it's a way of having your website having an API that client apps can post to
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tantek with this you can use other people's client software
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tantek to post to your site
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tantek this enables "Reply" buttons in shrewdness
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tantek connected to his site waterpigs.co.uk
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tantek posted a reply from within shrewdness
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tantek and shows that the reply has been posted on waterpigs.co.uk
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tantek subscribed to over 60 feeds in shrewdness
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tantek all based on microformats2
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tantek no need to support RSS or Atom
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KevinMarks_ my goal is to make a feed to microformats2 adaptor site so barnaby can just use that
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tantek up next
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tantek Al Power
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tantek alpower.com
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tantek loves playing with CMSs
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tantek classic tinkerer
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tantek also photographer
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tantek trying out kirby and perch
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KevinMarks_ who's up?
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tantek next up
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tantek @jkphl
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tantek jkphl.is
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tantek has implemented webmentions receiving on his site
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tantek posting articles now
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tantek would like to post photos, notes etc.
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tommorris tantek: TYPO3
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tantek Typo3
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tantek popular open source CMS in central Europe
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tantek would like to put some of these functionalities into Typo3 extensions
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tantek wrote an Indieweb plugin for Typo3
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tommorris a CMS session might be interesting: I've been using Django CMS at work, some people like Wordpress, some people are into Drupal - might be an idea to discuss the architecture of CMSes and how we can get it easier for CMS users to get involved in indieweb
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tantek next up
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tommorris Django-CMS is quite interesting because Django is actually a proper framework, and you can say that specific bits are handled by web app controllers and then delegate
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tantek @calum_ryan
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tantek calumryan.com
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tantek has another site culturebook.co.uk
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tantek shows demo.culturebook.co.uk
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tantek based on Modux(sp?)
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ShaneHudson CSS now working on SSL, and bought a cert for .net
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KevinMarks_ indienews
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KevinMarks_ my notes are up at http://www.kevinmarks.com/indiewebcampUK20140906.html
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KevinMarks_ there is a bookmarklet to reply on known
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ben_thatmustbeme hey KevinMarks_ wasn't planing on being here, just got up
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KevinMarks_ hi there
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KevinMarks_ you missed demos
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KevinMarks_ now debating sessions
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KevinMarks_ also, mute so I can hear them
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ben_thatmustbeme muted, better?
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KevinMarks_ yes, thanks
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KevinMarks_ or markdown
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neuro` ben_thatmustbeme: are you the third video participant?
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ben_thatmustbeme yes, i am
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KevinMarks_ organisations
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KevinMarks_ sounds intersting to me
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ben_thatmustbeme sounds good
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KevinMarks_ though I may fall asleep soon
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KevinMarks_ as it is nearly 5am here
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KevinMarks_ I spy a frozen andrew
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neuro` KevinMarks_: you should sleep a bit and come back later when you're rested
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ben_thatmustbeme ahh, we are getting passed around.. i feel cheap :P
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tommorris https://etherpad.mozilla.org/indiewebcamp-cms
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KevinMarks_ see http://microformats.org/wiki/xfn-brainstorming#Simple_Groups_and_Members for thinking about rel="us"
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KevinMarks_ also http://microformats.org/wiki/group-brainstorming
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ben_thatmustbeme same here, have a sleeping wife
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tommorris.org edited /2014/UK/Schedule (+62) "adding CMS" (view diff)
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KevinMarks_ twitter has this working in effect - we have an @microformats etc account
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KevinMarks_ there is the office and he person obama and whitehouse
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KevinMarks_ so it comes back to having feeds that cohere
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tommorris so, take fn and replace with org. ;-)
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tantek the main etherpad for today is at etherpad.mozilla.org/indiewebcamp - please add your etherpads there
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tantek tommorris: ^^^
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KevinMarks_ i imagine hadley's various hats having their own accounts
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ben_thatmustbeme for people to follow you all you'd really need is microformats markup on a stream. it could have multiple authors.
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KevinMarks_ there is a challenge with eg kcltheatre.com - you want to eb abel to post as the org, but also as andrewmarks.kcltheatre.com
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KevinMarks_ you don't want to use rel-me for this - we had this problem with peopel using rel-me for membership and then being assumed to be the same person by crawlers
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KevinMarks_ subdomains are a well-developed solution for this
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ben_thatmustbeme these are producers, not consumers still, so i don't think indieauth really factors in to it. You have have the .com/ be the stream of everyone and .com/author1 and .com/author2, etc have a stream for each of those.
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KevinMarks_ known uses subfolders too eg http://known.kevinmarks.com/profile/kylewm http://known.kevinmarks.com/profile/kevinmarks
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KevinMarks_ I think subdomains are better for isolating users
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KevinMarks_ as then you can use them for indieauth
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KevinMarks_ think of how blogspot.com or wordpress.com work
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ben_thatmustbeme i believe you can use folders for indieauth as well. or at least indieauth.com works with subfolders.
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KevinMarks_ right, but domain isolation is better for xss etc
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ben_thatmustbeme hmm, posse from a aggregate stream?
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KevinMarks_ you may need multipel posse paths
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KevinMarks_ Known does per-user posse binding
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KevinMarks_ but there may be a case for org-level posse to an org account too
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KevinMarks_ it is a problem wiht FB and twitter now
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KevinMarks_ too easy to accidentally tweet as your org
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KevinMarks_ eg http://www.businessinsider.com/kim-kardashian-app-epa-water-twitter-account-2014-7
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tantek KevinMarks_: I'm not sure anyone in that group is looking at IRC
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KevinMarks_ we did ask them to
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tantek I got BrianSuda to start a Etherpad
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tantek KevinMarks are you on https://etherpad.mozilla.org/indiewebcamp ?
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tantek you want the -no-individual etherpad
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tantek start writing stuff up in there and hopefully BrianSuda (in that session) will see it
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KevinMarks_ I think I'm going to crash, it's 5am here
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KevinMarks_ night night
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ben_thatmustbeme rel=member and rel=me? perhaps
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ben_thatmustbeme good night KevinMarks_
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Loqi don't let the bed bugs bite
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KevinMarks_ take notes for known people
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ben_thatmustbeme just trying to take notes as best i can in the etherpad
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ben_thatmustbeme would be better if someone there were doing this as i can't hear everything of people behind the laptop
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ben_thatmustbeme neuro`, are you the other video user?
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neuro` ben_thatmustbeme: I am
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ben_thatmustbeme your microphone is on i think. I can hear typing. i thought it might be you
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neuro` I thought it was you too, I'm mute
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neuro` Maybe someone next to the streaming latop
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ben_thatmustbeme must be. I do the cough test
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neuro` Did you hear me ?
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ben_thatmustbeme yes
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hadleybeeman KevinMarks_: I like the idea of my hats having their own presence on the web. less work for me :)
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neuro` Oh, I'm sorry
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ben_thatmustbeme quite alright
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neuro` I turned off the microfone, should be better
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Loqi hadleybeeman: tantek left you a message on 8/21 at 10:51am: I went ahead and added you to the sign-up for IndieWebCampUK since you said you could and would make it for Saturday (noted in sign-up). Let's get your IndieAuth setup so you can edit your entry! http://indiewebify.me/validate-rel-me/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fhadleybeeman.net%2F
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neuro` ben_thatmustbeme: I can still hear someone typing
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ben_thatmustbeme cough test
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neuro` cough heard
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ben_thatmustbeme can you hear me talking
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ben_thatmustbeme i unplugged the mic
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neuro` no
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neuro` it's OK now
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GWG lurks and works on his website
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tommorris https://etherpad.mozilla.org/indiewebcamp-location
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hadleybeeman Gentle reminder to everyone near a white board: PLEASE CHECK YOU AREN'T USING PERMANENT MARKERS
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hadleybeeman Also: http://m.wikihow.com/Remove-Permanent-Marker-from-a-White-Board
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icco backlog discussion: https://etherpad.mozilla.org/indiewebcamp-indiebacklog
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tantek__ reminder to add your etherpads to the main etherpad
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tantek__ indiecomms: https://etherpad.mozilla.org/indiewebcamp-indiecomms
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barnabywalters_ is the remote participation set up again successfully?
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neuro` barnabywalters_: seems not
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barnabywalters_ neuro`: okay, I’ll see if I can sort you out
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ben_thatmustbeme has started back at work on the house, so i will not be around much from here on out
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barnabywalters_ options are: indiecomms, export/import of silo data or location
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barnabywalters_ I’m in location, let me know if you want to move
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neuro` barnabywalters_: I can see you now
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barnabywalters_ okay, remote participation now back up @ https://talky.io/indiewebcamp in the location session: https://etherpad.mozilla.org/indiewebcamp-location
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barnabywalters_ neuro`: yay!
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neuro` barnabywalters_ thank you!
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barnabywalters_ neuro`: np :)
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Loqi yay!
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barnabywalters_ okay, there’s basically just one session on now, on security
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barnabywalters_ tantek’s still chatting about webactions too
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waterpigs.co.uk edited /2014/UK/Schedule (+11) "/* Saturday 2014-09-06 */ BRACKETS" (view diff)
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waterpigs.co.uk edited /2014/UK/Schedule (+4) "/* Saturday 2014-09-06 */ MOAR BRACKETSS" (view diff)
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ShaneHudson I've got shanehudson.net set up on HTTPS now :) Rating of C though
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bret is there any video today?
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bret ShaneHudson++
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bret nice work :)\
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Loqi ShaneHudson has 3 karma
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barnabywalters_ anyone interested in remote participation for the next sessions? either photos or transmat with Glenn
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barnabywalters_ turned it off for the mo as it was draining my battery
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waterpigs.co.uk edited /2014/UK/Schedule (+69) "/* Saturday 2014-09-06 */ added photos session" (view diff)
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voxpelli_ Regarding SSL, there are alternative ways to configuring servers – things like https://addons.heroku.com/ssl, Cloudflare and such which sits between the server and the browser – avoids coffee shop hacking by script kiddies and such
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bret barnabywalters_ what is the talky url?
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barnabywalters_ was https://talky.io/indiewebcamp
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barnabywalters_ let me know if you want to join, I’ll grab a power cord
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bret yeah barnabywalters that would be great :) ty
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bret barnabywalters++
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Loqi barnabywalters has 62 karma
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barnabywalters_ okay, which session?
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bret transmatt!
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bret :)
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barnabywalters_ okay, heading that way
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bret node ftw :)
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ShaneHudson Typical, knocked my server offline
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ShaneHudson (well, apache)
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bret servers--
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Loqi servers has -1 karma
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bret ty barnabywalters
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ShaneHudson Seems to be due to adding SSL certs together "RSA server certificate CommonName (CN) `COMODO RSA Certification Authority' does NOT match server name!?"
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icco OH: "There's a lot of overlap between the Indie web crowd and the selfie crowd" :p
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bret lol
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barnabywalters_ lol bret’s notification popped up :)
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bret is transmat powering glenjones.net i presume then?
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bret is transmat using a db? or flat files? or hybrid approach? sorry if I missed that earlier
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tantek woohoo! principles translated to Korean!
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tantek that is , /principles
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tantek reminder: add your session etherpads to https://etherpad.mozilla.org/indiewebcamp
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channy.creation.net edited /Main_Page-ko (+0) "/* 블로그와 분산 웹의 미래 */" (view diff)
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bret is the trasnmat code available to peek at?
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bret really cool glenn!
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tantek bret - could you capture things in the etherpad for transmat?
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bret I'll do my best. audio is a little rough
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tantek The #indiephotos etherpad: https://etherpad.mozilla.org/indiewebcamp-indiephotos
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bret started https://etherpad.mozilla.org/indiewebcamp-transmat
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barnabywalters_ thanks bret!
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bret barnabywalters, can you ask if transmat will support common mark?
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bret ;)
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tantek GROUP PHOTO TIME
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bret dont forget the transmat room ;)
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bret thanks barnabywalters++
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barnabywalters_ okay, group photo time now, talky will be back in a bit
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bret i have my sound muted we got a phone call
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barnabywalters_ okay, we’re all in a session together then I’ll split off and talk about micropub and clients
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bret oh neato
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bret ill hop back in when we are done with the call
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barnabywalters_ cool, benwerd’s here too
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bret weee
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snarfed hi all, happy iwc uk!
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snarfed aaronpk: do you (help) administer caseorganic.com? looks like it's down :/
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bret snarfed. quick https://talky.io/indiewebcamp
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snarfed bret: right! maybe eventually
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bret :p
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tantek in webaction session: https://etherpad.mozilla.org/indiewebcamp-webactions
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snarfed barnabywalters_: or anyone else at iwc uk: please ask jkphl to hop on irc when he gets the chance, i'd love to ask him a favor
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icco snarfed, I don't see him around, he may have bounced...
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tommorris.org uploaded /Special:Log/upload "uploaded "[[File:IWC UK 2014 group photo.jpg]]""
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snarfed icco: thx, np. (hi btw!)
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icco waves
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tommorris Enjoy: http://indiewebcamp.com/File:IWC_UK_2014_group_photo.jpg :)
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aaronpk snarfed: my server is down :( looks like it crashed
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aaronpk i've really gotta finish moving off that server. ugh.
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barnabywalters_ snarfed: will do
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snarfed aaronpk: oh no, boo. sorry :(
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aaronpk wow shit it crashed hardcore
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bret booom
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benwerd tantek et al: the thing about lightweight interactions is that, while you definitely need to do user research, they allow people to respond and act on content without having to necessarily formulate a reply. Creates an audience / community connection without requiring too much from the community.
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benwerd It's all about whether you care about who your audience is, and what they're interested in
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@domenicoperri "@kevinmarks: #indieweb @t: if you go to https://indiewebcamp.com/irc/ you can see what we're saying; https://talky.io/indiewebcamp you can hear us" (twitter.com/_/status/508294002459033600)
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snarfed added http://www.freedom.io/ to https://etherpad.mozilla.org/indiewebcamp-indiebacklog
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aaronpk server is back
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aaronpk oh yeah don't forget about our own etherpad! http://etherpad.indiewebcamp.com/
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tommorris ooh.
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@domenicoperri "@benwerd: UK friends who care about the web: I highly recommend #IndieWebCamp UK, Sep 6-7 in Brighton. http://t.co/AMzrf5rCcA" (twitter.com/_/status/508294476499271680)
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snarfed yay aaronpk glad it's back
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@tommorris IndieWebCamp 2014 UK: the Web strikes back! https://tommorris.org/posts/9087 (twitter.com/_/status/508291302610321409)
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@benwerd Enjoying watching #indiewebcamp remotely via WebRTC in my browser. Yo dawg, I heard you like web standards. (twitter.com/_/status/508290497358471168)
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@eventifierapp @indiewebcampuk #indieweb #indiewebcamp is being archived here, have a look: http://eventifier.com/event/indieweb14/?utm_content=buffer25856&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer CC @fdevillamil @xtof_fr @glennjones Ty. (twitter.com/_/status/508276458096447489)
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@MyCozyCloud RT @fdevillamil: I just published a @docker image to test @getpublify without installing it. #indiewebcamp. http://t37.net/a-docker-image-to-test-publify-without-installing-it.html (twitter.com/_/status/508274240916033536)
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@ya_f RT @fdevillamil: I just published a @docker image to test @getpublify without installing it. #indiewebcamp. http://t37.net/a-docker-image-to-test-publify-without-installing-it.html (twitter.com/_/status/508269516489777152)
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@fdevillamil I just published a @docker image to test @getpublify without installing it. #indiewebcamp. http://t37.net/a-docker-image-to-test-publify-without-installing-it.html (twitter.com/_/status/508268289651638273)
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@jonnybarnes Hoping everyone’s having a good time at #indiewebcamp UK. (https://jonnybarnes.uk/notes/2z) (twitter.com/_/status/508246079700480000)
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@lukehefson @brianmario @icco @IndieWebCampUK @dannygreg Try @taylorstbtown or @theredroaster (twitter.com/_/status/508230732213682177)
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@JockelLohkamp super interesting projects @ #GETDBerlin with @GOTOber @MailpileTeam @leihbar @Gatesense_IoT @RIOT_OS @TriforkDE @agoracollective #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/508220580550967296)
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@icco #indiewebcampuk http://www.flickr.com/photo.gne?short=oNJYGP (twitter.com/_/status/508216109879668736)
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@kevinmarks My notes from the opening demos of #IndieWebCamp UK are on my own site at http://www.kevinmarks.com/indiewebcampUK20140906.html #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/508213117780652032)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @t: I need to add a time-based version so if I'm asleep it will turn off facetime, for example (twitter.com/_/status/508209780972744704)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @t: the other part of this is communicating how you want to be contacted to people in a way that looks like apps (twitter.com/_/status/508209661162426368)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @t: this is all built in html+css, no javascript, so it is faster than native applications (twitter.com/_/status/508209541821911042)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @t: if you go to http://tantek.com/contact.html you can click through to contact me directly (twitter.com/_/status/508209362708357120)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @t: so I've been thinking about how to make the person first and the contact secondly see http://tantek.com/2014/120/b1/markup-people-focused-mobile-communication (twitter.com/_/status/508209171741696000)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @t: by adding an icon to your homepage, your friends can add your face to their homescreens and get to you clickly (twitter.com/_/status/508208874554281984)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @t: I need a volunteer who has an iPad, as I want to show Icon use. (twitter.com/_/status/508208516247474176)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @calum_ryan: I want to use my front end designs with an indieweb-based backend (twitter.com/_/status/508207839517474816)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @calum_ryan: my site is http://calumryan.com I've been building a way for tour guides to access at http://culturebook.co.uk (twitter.com/_/status/508207745883852801)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @jkphl: I want to add photo and note posting and implement these in typo3 too (twitter.com/_/status/508207263341756416)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @jkphl: I have implemented webmentions on my site http://jkphl.is using TYPO3, a popular CMS in eastern europe (twitter.com/_/status/508207175932841984)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @alpower: I want to make photo uploading really easy - trying out kirby and perch (twitter.com/_/status/508206373960941568)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @alpower: If i'd spent as much time creating content as tinkering with CMS's I'd have a multi-thousand page blog (twitter.com/_/status/508206232973217792)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @BarnabyWalters: if you log in to shrewdness with your site using indieauth you can post to it in reply by micropub (twitter.com/_/status/508205713294774272)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @BarnabyWalters: you can also reply to things - I support http://indiewebcamp.com/micropub so you can post replies on your own site (twitter.com/_/status/508205303234850817)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @BarnabyWalters: I also have a search column that works via elasticsearch on whatever it has seen already (twitter.com/_/status/508205020517376000)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @BarnabyWalters: I get twitter info via a twitter to microformats 2 proxy converter too (twitter.com/_/status/508204848236756992)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @BarnabyWalters: but then I made http://shrewdness.waterpigs.co.uk/ which looks like tweetdeck but only parses microformats 2 (twitter.com/_/status/508204717348904960)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @BarnabyWalters: I got distracted by building intertubes based on yahoo pipes which is a reader construction kit (twitter.com/_/status/508204443947794432)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @BarnabyWalters: I'm Barnaby Walters at http://waterpigs.co.uk and I've been building a reader since last year (twitter.com/_/status/508204322833055745)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @Rosaemerald: I am building my own site in rails on heroku and plan to make it more indieweb compatible (twitter.com/_/status/508203620425564160)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @Rosaemerald: I have been a web developer for 7 months, I have a static site with wordpress for blogging at http://www.techfox.co.uk (twitter.com/_/status/508203461540728832)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb Tim Retout: I discovered indieweb 2 weeks ago and have pump.io hosed on my website now (twitter.com/_/status/508203215611908096)
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@manvendramaan RT @kevinmarks: #indieweb @glennjones: I have my own near.html page that shows me the places I have been to before to snap to common ones (twitter.com/_/status/508202889320214528)
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@kevinmarks Hi Andrew, good to see you using @withknown at #indiewebcamp UK (twitter.com/_/status/508202628723920896)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @AndrewJohnMarks: I also have a site at http://www.kcltheatre.com/ on Known and I'm working out how to use this for actors too (twitter.com/_/status/508202364168187904)
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@comzeradd RT @kevinmarks: #indieweb @t: if you go to https://indiewebcamp.com/irc/ you can see what we're saying; https://talky.io/indiewebcamp you can hear us (twitter.com/_/status/508202353867358208)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @AndrewJohnMarks: I can checkin here using Known and get an openstreetmap link http://www.andrewmarks.media/2014/checked-into-68-middle-street (twitter.com/_/status/508202039466131456)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @AndrewJohnMarks: I can post a photo of my dad and it will webmention him if I link it (twitter.com/_/status/508201796569800704)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @AndrewJohnMarks: I have my own site at http://www.andrewmarks.media/ running on Known - I use soundcloud and wordpress mainly (twitter.com/_/status/508201596598362112)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @AndrewJohnMarks: I'm Andrew Marks- my dad is on that computer there -wave to him (twitter.com/_/status/508201401659305984)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @ShaneHudson: somebody already wrote webmention sending for craft; I added reciving them (twitter.com/_/status/508201264736256001)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @ShaneHudson: craft is at http://buildwithcraft.com - I added a geolocation plugin to craft (twitter.com/_/status/508201177285009409)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @ShaneHudson: my site http://www.ShaneHudson.net is running wordpress; I tried to write my own CMS, also tried Craft (twitter.com/_/status/508200979406131200)
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@OhhSocialMedia RT @kevinmarks: #indieweb @glennjones: the twitter archive doesn't give you all the context info you need, so I scrape twitter to fix that (twitter.com/_/status/508200202470432769)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @glennjones: I have my own near.html page that shows me the places I have been to before to snap to common ones (twitter.com/_/status/508200080579366912)
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@javascriptd RT @kevinmarks: #indieweb @voxpelli: I have javascript that embeds webmentions using http://webmention.herokuapp.com to show them on a static site (twitter.com/_/status/508199882226941952)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @glennjones: see https://transmat.io/glennjones/places for what I have found from my tweets, but I snap to fences in places I know (twitter.com/_/status/508199796088115200)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @glennjones: I generate an hCard for each person including twitter, name and website, and have started adding places too (twitter.com/_/status/508199579934674944)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @glennjones: transmat.io is all built on node.js - it imports account info for each person I interact with so I have context (twitter.com/_/status/508199434010640385)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @glennjones: the twitter archive doesn't give you all the context info you need, so I scrape twitter to fix that (twitter.com/_/status/508199078224617473)
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@OhhSocialMedia RT @kevinmarks: #indieweb @glennjones: I added a UI to set up POSSE so it will then post to other sites like Twitter as well (twitter.com/_/status/508199019609587713)
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@twtomcat RT @kevinmarks: #indieweb @sammachin: you go to my URL to call me, and I decide how you connect depending on where I am (twitter.com/_/status/508198860167335938)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @glennjones: I have a "reclaim your tweets" feature where you download the zipfile from twitter and it adds only the new ones (twitter.com/_/status/508198838390116352)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @glennjones: I've built this up experimentally, but am considering running this as a service like brid.gy (twitter.com/_/status/508198553806598145)
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@fdevillamil Building a @getpublify @Docker image so anyone can test it at home without installing everything. #indiewebcamp (twitter.com/_/status/508198401394343936)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @glennjones: All the HTML is stored locally so even if transmat.io goes down I could staticly host it somewhere else (twitter.com/_/status/508198360827056128)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @glennjones: everything on the site, if you add /json to a UR,L will parse the microformats of the page and make JSON form it (twitter.com/_/status/508198011525017600)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @glennjones: I added a UI to set up POSSE so it will then post to other sites like Twitter as well (twitter.com/_/status/508197845027930112)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @glennjones: contenteditable is very hard to work with. I have to link URLs, @'s and #'s myself to make it usable (twitter.com/_/status/508197680837713920)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @glennjones: if you look at https://transmat.io/glennjones you can see what I have posted (twitter.com/_/status/508196921949704192)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @glennjones: I built a new system transmat.io that is broken into sections that make sense on a phone (twitter.com/_/status/508196673164562434)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @glennjones: last year I showed my posts written in HTML in a folder, but now I use my phone to take pictures and checkin (twitter.com/_/status/508196504247762944)
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@icco RT @amcewen: Even more so than usual, @kevinmarks is worth following today - he's live-tweeting lots of good stuff about #indieweb from #in… (twitter.com/_/status/508196141306228737)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @voxpelli: I also wrote a tool to test webmentions + make sure you aren't allowing script injections called webmention-testpinger (twitter.com/_/status/508195784383164416)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @voxpelli: you add a rel=webmention link to point to this and some javascript to copy to your page embed the webmentions (twitter.com/_/status/508195454652514304)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @voxpelli: I have javascript that embeds webmentions using http://webmention.herokuapp.com to show them on a static site (twitter.com/_/status/508195242751717378)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @voxpelli: I got tired of hosting my own server so I move to Jekyll on github pages for everything at http://voxpelli.com (twitter.com/_/status/508194880493862912)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @icco: my old sites were http://pseudoweb.net (long form) http://sadnet.com to be tweeted at and now at /natnatnat (twitter.com/_/status/508194582794735617)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @icco: I have a bunch of different sites that did webmentions and such, and it got annoying, so on the train ride I changed it (twitter.com/_/status/508194076999831552)
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@amcewen RT @kevinmarks: #indieweb @t: if you go to https://indiewebcamp.com/irc/ you can see what we're saying; https://talky.io/indiewebcamp you can hear us (twitter.com/_/status/508193991326588928)
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@amcewen Even more so than usual, @kevinmarks is worth following today - he's live-tweeting lots of good stuff about #indieweb from #indiewebcamp (twitter.com/_/status/508193967838490624)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @sammachin: If you log into my site with indieauth, I can show you more ways to contact me, based on how I know you (twitter.com/_/status/508193719611174913)
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@fdevillamil RT @kevinmarks: #indieweb @sammachin: you go to my URL to call me, and I decide how you connect depending on where I am (twitter.com/_/status/508193449435475968)
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@fdevillamil RT @kevinmarks: #indieweb @sammachin: voicemail is shit - everyone hates it, so give better alternatives (twitter.com/_/status/508193417411960832)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @sammachin: voicemail is shit - everyone hates it, so give better alternatives (twitter.com/_/status/508193220560699392)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @sammachin: you go to my URL to call me, and I decide how you connect depending on where I am (twitter.com/_/status/508192933116661760)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @sammachin: you can call me by going to my page - http://sammachin.github.io/talk/ is frontend; a lot of backend I am running (twitter.com/_/status/508192727222480896)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @sammachin: the idea is that we can replace all forms of contact - phone, chat, whatever with URLs (twitter.com/_/status/508192396015042560)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @sammachin: the problem is that I don't own my phone number, but i can connect to it over WebRTC (twitter.com/_/status/508192264875962368)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @sammachin: at indiewebcmap last year I showed a really early hack of owning my own communications (twitter.com/_/status/508192107518255104)
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@rbonini RT @kevinmarks: #indieweb @adactio: I would like to also POSSE to Instagram but there is no API call to post to instagram except from their… (twitter.com/_/status/508192057148846081)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @tommorris: I use https://geodienste.lyrk.de/ for map tiles that serve over https, and use OpenStreetMap place objects with lat long (twitter.com/_/status/508191730605490176)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @tommorris: the feature I have added recently is location http://tommorris.org/places - which has London AND Brighton (twitter.com/_/status/508191226365886465)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @tommorris: when I'm logged in it just shows my posting interface at the top of the page, with title, content, POSSE boxes+license (twitter.com/_/status/508190994194391040)
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@fdevillamil RT @kevinmarks: #indieweb @tommorris: I use Mozilla Persona to sign in as it didn't need me to pretend to be an app to sign in (twitter.com/_/status/508190582406414336)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @tommorris: I use Mozilla Persona to sign in as it didn't need me to pretend to be an app to sign in (twitter.com/_/status/508190446229549057)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @tommorris: this is my site, https://tommorris.org/ , which is not as responsive as it could be; it's primarily text-based (twitter.com/_/status/508190261969965057)
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@fdevillamil RT @kevinmarks: #indieweb @adactio: I would like to also POSSE to Instagram but there is no API call to post to instagram except from their… (twitter.com/_/status/508189475517001730)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @adactio: I would like to also POSSE to Instagram but there is no API call to post to instagram except from their app (twitter.com/_/status/508189404267945984)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @adactio: this saves the monolithic task of posting to multiple places, but I haven't brought my old pix back from flickr yet (twitter.com/_/status/508189072183939072)
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@michielbdejong Twitpic is shutting down. http://blog.twitpic.com/2014/09/twitpic-is-shutting-down/ They say you can download your data, but what will happen to the URLs? #indieweb #sitedeath (twitter.com/_/status/508189039326146560)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @adactio: I post photos to my own site, but send copies to twitter so there is a backup there and to flickr too (twitter.com/_/status/508188899735535616)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @adactio: I added photo posting, which I upload to my site and make various sizes for different screens viewing it (twitter.com/_/status/508188760014483456)
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@xtof_fr @kirilind @dumeny @fdevillamil invitation brunch #indiewebcamp demain dimanche 11h00 (paris 18) #selfdogfood #webmention cc #d14n #RSVP (twitter.com/_/status/508188759515750400)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @adactio: I am using brid.gy to propagate to twitter and get comments back on my own posts (twitter.com/_/status/508188320120070145)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @adactio: after webmentions I got notes working and copying to twitter via POSSE (twitter.com/_/status/508187967232290816)
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aaronpk hello tweets
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icco dat irc flood
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aaronpk i think the tweet search is running on the server that was down all night :(
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snarfed welcome back webmention.io
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snarfed aaronpk: yeah by
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aaronpk aw man too bad these are not appearing in context
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snarfed aaronpk: …er, by my logs, looks like about 8h ago
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aaronpk gah
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aaronpk worst possible time
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tommorris holy backlog, batman
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bret the tweet stream of shame Loqi
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Loqi who, me?
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aaronpk loqi you and I are going to have a serious talk
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aaronpk I lost the live stream
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aaronpk benwerd: bret: you guys lose the live stream too?
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benwerd Well, we've lost Brighton, but howdy, aaronpk, bret
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bret ya
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aaronpk sadface
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benwerd Suppose I could get some work done. I'm going to leave the browser window up just in case they come back.
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aaronpk has the talky on another monitor
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aaronpk too bad, I really wanted to hear barnaby
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benwerd nods
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aaronpk runs to get coffee
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bret hey ben :)
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benwerd Yay!
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Loqi woot
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bret https://github.com/bcomnes/gitpub can be used as a reference app in node
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bret its simple enough to understand
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bret bye! have fun
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tommorris has SSL enabled.
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snarfed tommorris++
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Loqi tommorris has 41 karma
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voxpelli_ tantek: http://techcrunch.com/2014/07/21/facebook-save-feature/
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tantek voxpelli_: add to https://etherpad.mozilla.org/indiewebcamp-webactions ! thanks!
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icco tommorris, fyi 'The page at 'https://tommorris.org/' was loaded over HTTPS, but displayed insecure content from 'http://f.cl.ly/items/2c1C1q3G2s17421P411g/Screen%20Shot%202014-08-20%20at%2006.44.01.png': this content should also be loaded over HTTPS.'
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tommorris icco: yeah, I need to sort out the HTTP content.
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snarfed tommorris: eh i say don't stress to much about mixed mode warnings, esp on old pages. inevitable when you port a site with lots of old content
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snarfed plenty of my old pages have the same problem. meh
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kylewm plenty of my new pages have the same problem :/
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icco true, it always causes my ocd to twitch is all :p
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snarfed ooh also, tommorris working on his site reminds me to renew my nudge about his webmention handler :P
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tommorris snarfed: tomorrow. ;-)
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snarfed yay!
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Loqi yay!
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snarfed is adding heuristics to scrape disqus site id from each different tumblr theme, since they all do it differently :(
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@Rosaemerald having a great day at @indiewebcamp, lots of project ideas to try and build in to my app tomorrow (twitter.com/_/status/508302481479061505)
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tantek looks like we're wrapping up here at IndieWebCampUK for the day
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tantek likely to be active online in the evening though
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GWG tantek: Anything new on communications?
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tantek yes
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GWG tantek: Good, will have to read up
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aaronpk hopes to catch up on logs
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tantek GWG - see the etherpad for the lates
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@mendibot IndieWebCamp 2014 UK the Web strikes back! https://tommorris.org/posts/9087 (twitter.com/_/status/508304310225358848)
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aaronpk wow that's an awesome photo
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@benwerd RT @tommorris: IndieWebCamp 2014 UK: the Web strikes back! https://tommorris.org/posts/9087 (twitter.com/_/status/508304670981632000)
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@jennie I'm going to be doing a free indieweb workshop for game devs in October. Talking privacy, security, content ownership and maintainability. (twitter.com/_/status/508307323723345920)
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@henryfaber RT @jennie: I'm going to be doing a free indieweb workshop for game devs in October. Talking privacy, security, content ownership and maint… (twitter.com/_/status/508308377613500416)
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@davidsgallant RT @jennie: I'm going to be doing a free indieweb workshop for game devs in October. Talking privacy, security, content ownership and maint… (twitter.com/_/status/508308614034235392)
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aaronpk oh man looking at the logs, my server went to sleep at about the same time i did
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KartikPrabhu hi Loqi!
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@fdevillamil RT @benwerd: Enjoying watching #indiewebcamp remotely via WebRTC in my browser. Yo dawg, I heard you like web standards. (twitter.com/_/status/508310526410391552)
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aaronpk KevinMarks: thanks for the super awesome notes at http://www.kevinmarks.com/indiewebcampUK20140906.html
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@adactio Having a post-IndieWebCamp pint at the Hop Poles. https://twitter.com/adactio/status/508312761424961538/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/508312761424961538)
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@rapella IndieWebCamp 2014 UK: the Web strikes back - and it's 92.3076923 male! https://tommorris.org/posts/9087 ht @tommorris (twitter.com/_/status/508314199471431680)
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@govillage RT @adactio: Having a post-IndieWebCamp pint at the Hop Poles. https://twitter.com/adactio/status/508312761424961538/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/508314519697776640)
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@icco RT @tommorris: IndieWebCamp 2014 UK: the Web strikes back! https://tommorris.org/posts/9087 (twitter.com/_/status/508317916098736129)
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@benwerd So wrapped up in #indiewebcamp UK, preparing @withknown for ..., & @mattervc demo day that I forgot about #DoctorWho! Never happened before. (twitter.com/_/status/508320923389157377)
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@MaryTrigiani RT @kevinmarks: My notes from the opening demos of #IndieWebCamp UK are on my own site at http://www.kevinmarks.com/indiewebcampUK20140906.html #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/508323644297076737)
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@kloptbaze 2014 #UK - IndieWebCamp http://indiewebcamp.com/ (twitter.com/_/status/508323885205712896)
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aaronpk heh
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aaronpk I failed to actually do the math and plan ahead
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neuro` KartikPrabhu: you're not the only one, don't worry :)
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KartikPrabhu yeah... maybe will catch hack day
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@jkphl RT @adactio: Having a post-IndieWebCamp pint at the Hop Poles. https://twitter.com/adactio/status/508312761424961538/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/508331420981673984)
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@yatil @lukasbestle @ubernauten Ich hoffe ja auf baldigste Unterstützung von IndieAuth (eilt nicht :-D) (twitter.com/_/status/508332759186960384)
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aaronpk debating moving all my simple php and static sites to my dreamhost account to remove a lot of the admin overhead of switching servers
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pdurbin not sure how that helps but ok
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aaronpk well anything running on dreamhost I haven't had to touch in years. whereas I have to constantly update my VPS, either OS updates, or switching to a new VPS because I can't actually do in-place updates
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aaronpk so if I cut down the amount of stuff on my VPS it's easier to do that
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aaronpk this is my current theory.
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aaronpk of course the sites that can be run on dreamhost are often the easiest ones to move when I need to
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pdurbin oh oh. vps vs. shared hosting. ok
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aaronpk oh yeah sorry
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aaronpk that wasn't clear
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pdurbin yeah, get someone else to patch that os ;)
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GWG aaronpk, how many sites do you have?
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aaronpk um
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KevinMarks I am looking at moving my static stuff to Google/Amazon
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aaronpk i don't want to talk about it
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snarfed aaronpk++ for "moving up the stack means less sysadmin work"
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Loqi aaronpk has 556 karma
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snarfed paases ftw!
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KevinMarks At least you have sites. I have all these domains I never made the sites for
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snarfed lol true
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aaronpk I love my VPSs, don't get me wrong :)
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@kevinmarks RT @benwerd: Enjoying watching #indiewebcamp remotely via WebRTC in my browser. Yo dawg, I heard you like web standards. (twitter.com/_/status/508337364129681408)
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snarfed better you then me then
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snarfed only admins a single whole machine, my laptop - no servers - and is happy about it
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aaronpk not even a home server?
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snarfed aaronpk: *especially* not that. apple time machine as a nas, sure, but hard to call that a server
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GWG What is the best, cheapest and fastest way to serve static files?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "the best, cheapest and fastest way to serve static files" yet. Would you like to create it? http://indiewebcamp.com/wiki/index.php?action=edit&title=the+best%2C+cheapest+and+fastest+way+to+serve+static+files
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GWG I keep forgetting about that.
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techlifeweb hmmm I fear Wordpress 4 broke indieweb plugins :/
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snarfed techlifeweb: yup it did, at least mine. i replied on https://github.com/pfefferle/wordpress-indieweb-press-this/issues/3
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snarfed GWG: http://indiewebcamp.com/web_hosting#Static_domain_hosting ?
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@coderdojoli RT @NZN: 1+1=3 for Happy Networks http://www.moxytongue.com/2014/06/generative-networks.html Own Your Own Data Mod: http://www.exceptionalplay.com/products/kidoyo-book (copy @ end) #MakerEd #vrm #indieweb… (twitter.com/_/status/508339166388977664)
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GWG Did it break the webmentions one?
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GWG I got one yesterday, but that was from myself
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@alanpearceuk Finally got around to marking up my site with microformats2 (h-entry and h-card). Moving towards #indieweb :) (twitter.com/_/status/508339480835928064)
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techlifeweb I 'liked' KevinMarks noted from this morning and and first I thought it didn't show up. Not I see it has but listed and Unknown and from 8 hours ago... Hmm it was maybe 30 mins ago and not sure why Unknown.
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GWG I am back working on my WordPress stuff. I took a breather for a bit.
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GWG I just almost had an idea.
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GWG I say that because it seems strange
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techlifeweb what was it?
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bret GWG, not sure about best, but certainly cheap and reliable: github pages! just push html to any gh-pages branch in a repo
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bret (gh-pages is free)
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bret there is also neocities
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aaronpk hm waht is my new linode going to be called?
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GWG What is your usual naming scheme?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "your usual naming scheme" yet. Would you like to create it? http://indiewebcamp.com/wiki/index.php?action=edit&title=your+usual+naming+scheme
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KartikPrabhu lol Loai
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KartikPrabhu Loqi*
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aaronpk lol
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GWG Note it didn't do it to aaronpk.
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aaronpk moves this to #indiechat
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KartikPrabhu GWG: note typo by aaronpk
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aaronpk also started with "hm" instead of "what"
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GWG Will remember that what is restricted
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GWG Or try to
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KevinMarks Also fairly easy is static hosting on appengine
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KevinMarks Or the kind of node stub the on Heroku I use for kevinmarks.com
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GWG So many choices
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KevinMarks If you say "What's" rather than "what is" loqi knows you want people to answer
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Loqi woot!
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KevinMarks If it's audio or video and you can cc it, archive.org will host and let you hotlink
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KevinMarks Then there's s3 (which is a pain to config)
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KevinMarks And Google cloud, which is easier
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techlifeweb archive.org works pretty well. I used it once when I had a video too long for Youtube
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GWG KevinMarks, m6 concerns with S3 is bandwidth. But they keep lowering the price
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GWG I have never priced Google
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aaronpk actually dreamhost is great for static(ish) websites too. and they don't charge for bandwidth or storage so it's pretty much guaranteed $10/mo
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KevinMarks They hand out free coupons at hackathons a lot for Amazon
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aaronpk or i think $100/yr if you pre pay
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GWG I run primarily off of Linode for production stiff, and two cheap VPSes for testing and personal projects
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GWG I have a 256mb VPS in Jacksonville for $12 a year.
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GWG Perfect for breaking things
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gRegor-mobile I forgot how timelines work. Skimming the logs, looks like it was a good IWC UK day
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gRegor-mobile *timezones
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gRegor-mobile aaronpk
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gRegor-mobile ugh. Me no likey typing on mobile
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gRegor-mobile Aaronpk: I think I got a basic message queue working in my dreamhost shared account. Uses SysV message queues.
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aaronpk wow really?
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gRegor-mobile Yep. The bulk of the time getting it set up was with dh support. SysV is compiled in their PHP but the extension wasn't loaded. Easy to add to the phprc
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gRegor-mobile I've not set up wm sending with it yet, but have sent messages successfully.
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aaronpk that's awesome
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gRegor-mobile Will document once it's all set up
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aaronpk I thought dreamhost didn't allow long-running processes though
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gRegor-mobile They reserve the right to kill them and seems they don't allow daemons, but I can run a cron to make sure a few workers are running every minute.
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aaronpk oh interesting
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aaronpk that's actually essentially how I used to run my IRC bots. I had a cron script called "babysitter.sh" which would check if the bot is running and start it if not
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voxpelli_ KevinMarks: Regarding static page hosts – I'm thinking of moving my static site to http://www.divshot.com/ from GitHub Pages, looks like an interesting service
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gRegor-mobile Check the log from late last night for a link to the post I followed
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gRegor-mobile I'm actually not sure it constitutes a daemon, just a shell script that loops waiting for messages
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gRegor-mobile Guess we'll see how it works in practice
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neuro` voxpelli_: you have S3 too, works pretty well
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aaronpk GWG: since you asked, could you distill all these hosting recommendations onto the wiki? :D
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gRegor-mobile Alright, it's too nice outside. Have a good day, IWC!
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GWG When I get home. I am down the street nursing a soda and reading my tt-rss feed. Few minutes.
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voxpelli_ neuro`: I like the idea of something simpler, like a Heroku for static sites, and Divshot seems to match that
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neuro` voxpelli_: not sure why S3 is complicated
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neuro` I even mounted my s3 bucket as a local file system and rsync my static web site locally
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aaronpk neuro`: you should make a note of that here! http://indiewebcamp.com/S3
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Loqi [mention] http://bot.moldseo.info/ping/blogs.php?pg=159435 linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/2013/UK (pingback)
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aaronpk what how did that spam pingback get through
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aaronpk oh god
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GWG aaronpk, I mentioned lowendbox.com on there.
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voxpelli_ neuro`: Perhaps not complicated, but not as simple – eg. I have no idea how to setup https or proper http redirects on S3
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aaronpk i'm guessing the first request to that URL contains HTML that has a link to the wiki, and subsequent requests send the 301 header to the weird spam site
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neuro` BTW, I'm still working a bit on Publify, if some people here want to give it a try, I've released a full featured Docker image for IndieWebcamp UK 2014 http://t37.net/a-docker-image-to-test-publify-without-installing-it.html
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neuro` if some of you use Docker
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aaronpk nice!
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aaronpk the tumblr ios app has a great interface for switching which account you want to post to
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aaronpk when you click "new post" at the top of the posting interface you can switch the account it goes to
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bret are going to be videos of dconstruct
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aaronpk much less overhead than twitter's model of switching the context of the entire app
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bret s/are going/are there going
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Loqi bret meant to say: are there going to be videos of dconstruct
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aaronpk I really want a tool that will take an entire mediawiki site and turn it into simple flat html files with all the proper links and stuff
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bret aaronpk, what is the best way to bulk download all my data off webmention.io?
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@calum_ryan Star crowd of folks and discussion @IndieWebCampUK today. Now to decide what to create/hack tomorrow #BDF14 (twitter.com/_/status/508357799215382529)
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aaronpk bret: probably this https://github.com/aaronpk/webmention.io#find-all-links-to-your-domain
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aaronpk it supports paging
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bret ah cool... does that need an api key if my stuff is set to public?
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bret ill just mess around with it
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bret ignore me
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bret lazywebbing right now
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KevinMarks_ amazon config is a bastard mix of xml and json that you have to paste in random fields that don't validate, or apis that are equally convoluted
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KevinMarks_ I have set things up with them but it always involves reading a 12 stage setup process again each time
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bret this is cute: [M↓] the md logo in unicode
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@HongPong RT @benwerd: Enjoying watching #indiewebcamp remotely via WebRTC in my browser. Yo dawg, I heard you like web standards. (twitter.com/_/status/508368131245367296)
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@HongPong RT @eventifierapp: @indiewebcampuk #indieweb #indiewebcamp is being archived here, have a look: http://eventifier.com/event/indieweb14/?utm_content=buffer25856&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer CC @fdevillamil @xto… (twitter.com/_/status/508368411861065728)
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@HongPong RT @kevinmarks: My notes from the opening demos of #IndieWebCamp UK are on my own site at http://www.kevinmarks.com/indiewebcampUK20140906.html #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/508368481838845952)
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@calum_ryan Noticeable no-shows on the Guest List at #indiewebcamp today @aral? (twitter.com/_/status/508369421300400129)
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snarfed ben_thatmustbeme: i think i fixed the publish 403 bug you hit. want to try again? just plug http://ben.thatmustbe.me/photo/2014/9/5/5 into https://www.brid.gy/twitter/dissolve333
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Loqi Welcome, indie-visitor! Set your nickname by typing /nick yourname
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@invispide videos about the indieweb - IndieWebCamp http://indiewebcamp.com/videos_about_the_indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/508377027406487552)
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@invispide IndieWebCamp 2014 a Success! - Amber Case http://caseorganic.com/articles/2014/07/19/2/indiewebcamp-2014-a-success (twitter.com/_/status/508377714869669888)
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@invispide IndieWebCamp 2014 #UK the Web strikes back! - Tom Morrishttps://tommorris.org/tag/indiewebcamp (twitter.com/_/status/508378073679798272)
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aaronpk neat, didn't realize the wordpress export feature actually exports an RSS file
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tantek what is invispide?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "invispide" yet. Would you like to create it? http://indiewebcamp.com/wiki/index.php?action=edit&title=invispide
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@invispide IndieWebCamp 2014 #UK the Web strikes back! - Tom Morris https://tommorris.org/tag/indiewebcamp (twitter.com/_/status/508379234679914496)
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@jkphl Very much enjoyed the first @IndieWebCampUK day! More unsure than ever what to work on tomorrow though :/ https://twitter.com/jkphl/status/508380205749391360/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/508380205749391360)
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@alpower @jkphl @indiewebcampuk indeed! think SSL, and microformats for me being fairly new to this! (twitter.com/_/status/508381063031582720)
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tantek what happened to the Berlin 2014 photos?
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@schnarfed @jkphl @IndieWebCampUK awesome, glad you enjoyed it! wish i was there. ooh and i bet you know what i’d vote you… (https://snarfed.org/2014-09-06_joschi-kuphal-%e5%90%89-on-twitter-very-much-enjoyed-the-first-indiewebcampuk-day-more-unsure-than-ever-what-to-work-on-tomorrow-though) (twitter.com/_/status/508382187373080576)
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@schnarfed @jkphl @IndieWebCampUK awesome, glad you enjoyed it! wish i was there. ooh and i bet you know what i'd vote you work on tomorrow. :P (twitter.com/_/status/508382446002262016)
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@jkphl @schnarfed Hah, good point! :D Thanks for reminding me! (Although there might be more "severe" tasks to work on during @IndieWebCampUK ...) (twitter.com/_/status/508383305272934400)
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jden IWC folks, I find myself in PDX this week
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aaronpk waves at jden
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kylewm snarfed: lol
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kylewm at your tweet
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snarfed heh
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kylewm pay heed lest you be put on the WEBMENTION_BLACKLIST of shame!
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snarfed see the error line here? been like that for months. i give you one guess why. :P https://snarfed.org/jkphl.png
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snarfed fortunately it doesn't matter, just funny
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snarfed kylewm: heh actually not even that, his IP is now in the DoS blacklist
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snarfed gets rejected by google's dosserver, doesn't even make it to app engine, much less bridgy
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kylewm oh that's right, tommorris is in the webmention blacklist of shame :P
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snarfed ah yes
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snarfed i also nudged him. quite the nag today
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kylewm if he fixes it you should send him the updated screenshot to demo :)
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snarfed heh yes
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@elfpavlik @mamund my UseCase for @SocialWebWG +invite to @HydraCG @LDPWG @indiewebcamp http://schema.org activitystrea.ms https://www.w3.org/wiki/Socialwg/Check-In_Use_Case (twitter.com/_/status/508388773248659456)
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tantek hmm - might want to check out /checkin
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tantek.com edited /NYC (+495) "change from redirect to a summary of NYC, including past organizers" (view diff)
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tantek.com created /New_York_City (+17) "Redirected page to [[NYC]]" (view diff)
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ben_thatmustbeme snarfed, That worked!
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tantek.com created /New_York (+17) "r" (view diff)
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tantek in honor of all the recently heated Markdown discussions, I've continued to update my thoughts on it: http://tantek.com/w/Markdown
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ben_thatmustbeme !tell snarfed it worked but didn't keep the shorturl in the tweet
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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snarfed ben_thatmustbeme: did you plug in the short url? or the long one?
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Loqi snarfed: ben_thatmustbeme left you a message 14 minutes ago: it worked but didn't keep the shorturl in the tweet
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snarfed looks like you gave it the long one…? next time try the short url. it should use the exact url you give it
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@domenicoperri RT @invispide: IndieWebCamp 2014 a Success! - Amber Case http://caseorganic.com/articles/2014/07/19/2/indiewebcamp-2014-a-success (twitter.com/_/status/508400527890481152)
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@domenicoperri #usermedia #IndieWebCamp / "@invispide: IndieWebCamp 2014 #UK the Web strikes back! - Tom Morris http://t.co/va9VdcUuH7" (twitter.com/_/status/508401394173616128)