#indiewebcamp 2013-09-24

2013-09-24 UTC
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@lightcoin San Francisco Personal Clouds Community Gathering this Wednesday @ 6PM PST -- https://personalclouds5.eventbrite.com/?ref=estwenivtefor001 #pcloud #p2p #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/382344603602407424)
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@RTp2p RT @lightcoin: San Francisco Personal Clouds Community Gathering this Wednesday @ 6PM PST -- https://personalclouds5.eventbrite.com/?ref=estwenivtefor001 #pcloud #p2p #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/382346815565467648)
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@jjmajava .@laurieloranta Siis erotuksena vuorovaikutus ensisjaisesti yhden kaupallisen alustan sisällä (Twitter, Faceook, G+ etc.) #indieweb FTW. (twitter.com/_/status/382399744577769473)
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@Jermolene @pixelpartner I watch the indiewebcamp stuff with great interest, and definitely plan to adopt as the basis for federating TW5 (twitter.com/_/status/382405052318879744)
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Jihaisse hello
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neuro` l i t a
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neuro` oops wrong chan sorry
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barnabywalters afternoon Jihaisse
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neuro` Hi Jihaisse
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Jihaisse lol neuro`
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Jihaisse nice fail ;)
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@omarojo IndieAuth https://indieauth.com @artbgz @moynard (twitter.com/_/status/382511431272652800)
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@jihaisse Plugin wordpress #indieweb : #indieAuth Links http://jihais.se/b/z2 (twitter.com/_/status/382518439350247426)
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Loqi [mention] http://jihais.se/2013/09/24/plugin-wordpress-indieweb-indieauth-links/ linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/indieauth-fr (pingback)
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Loqi [mention] http://www.marcus-povey.co.uk/2013/09/24/making-a-start-with-idno/ linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/POSSE (pingback)
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tantek.com edited /IndieMark (+63) "/* Level 1 */ start linkifying the key points of Level 1 to pages with how/why for each" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /Getting_Started (+25) "/* Personal Domain */ main" (view diff)
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tantek.com created /personal-domain (+1121) "simple stub for this building block topic" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /IndieAuth (+89) "/* What is IndieAuth? */ setup required for IndieMark level 1" (view diff)
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tantek.com created /personal_domain (+29) "r" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /posts (+345) "required for indiemark, simple how and why sections" (view diff)
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tantek.com created /search (+1807) "stub for indiemark level 1, with how and why sections" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /search (+88) "Search related sessions" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /search (+31) "visible, posts" (view diff)
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tantek.com created /identity (+29) "seems like a good place to start" (view diff)
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tantek.com created /authentication (+23) "how we do authentication" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /IndieMark (+12) "/* Level 1 */ link areas and note each for how to and why." (view diff)
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tantek IndieMark Level 1 should have all the feedback incorporated from the IndieWebCampUK 2013 IndieMark session
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tantek please take a look, especially if you're just starting your indieweb site, and give feedback: http://indiewebcamp.com/IndieMark#Level_1
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tantek.com edited /IndieMark (+12) "intro, to-do" (view diff)
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@pypi webmentiontools 0.3: Tools for http://t.co/EwHCjg1mY3. https://pypi.python.org/pypi/webmentiontools/0.3 (twitter.com/_/status/382609638719361024)
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@gasi IndieAuth: Sign in with your domain name https://indieauth.com/ (twitter.com/_/status/382610470391148544)
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bret cool, brian's node based microblog is coming along :) http://brianhendrickson.com/
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pdurbin san francisco is nice: https://plus.google.com/107770072576338242009/posts/HA7Nzb8DmzB
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bret.io edited /events/2013-09-15-pdx-indieauth-openid-hackathon (+117) "/* List of notable websites that consume OpenID */" (view diff)
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bret damn, look at how many events there have been so far in 2013
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tantek pdurbin - you should post that on your own site ;)
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tantek bret - indeed!
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tantek on both points
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tantek is brianhendrickson ever in IRC?
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bret im not sure
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bret his project has quite a few stargazers though!
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tantek and Bret - did you POSSE this comment to Will's post from your site to his? https://willnorris.com/2013/08/jailbreaking-the-internet#comment-65874 or did you just post it natively directly on his site?
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bret i sure did
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bret im not sure why its not linking back
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tantek you did that with webmention? I didn't know Will's blog received webmentions
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tantek or did you custom POSSE it from your side?
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bret yeah, he is using the wordpress plugin i belive
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tantek what's the permalink to that comment as a reply on your own site?
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aaronpk <link rel="http://webmention.org/" href="https://willnorris.com/wordpress/?webmention=endpoint" />
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bret https://willnorris.com/2013/06/testing-indieweb-comments
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tantek ah, perhaps an issue for the plugin then
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tantek if it's failing to link to the original reply permalink on the author's site
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tantek g2g bbiab
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bret doh
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bret !tell tantek its located here: http://bret.io/2013/08/14/t1/
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell him that when I see him next
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bret im not sure why its failing… it could have been due to messed up markup at the time
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bret it looks like its working for others
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Loqi tantek: bret left you a message 10 minutes ago: its located here: http://bret.io/2013/08/14/t1/
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bret.io edited /Events (+517) "/* Recent */ Added a hack session that never made it to the wiki" (view diff)
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bret I wonder if its because I dont have a rel permalink or something
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tantek you shouldn't need one
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tantek my guess is that the WP plugin doesn't respect the original reply permalink
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tantek and instead links to the local copy of the permalink
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bret ohhhh
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bret my u-url in my h-card goes to my homepage maybe?
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tantek but that's correct - as it should
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bret oh, ok good
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bret tantek it works for other folks, it seems: https://willnorris.com/2013/06/testing-indieweb-comments
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tantek you don't need to explicitly say the URL of your reply because that's the *target* in the webmention!
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bret thats true
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tantek no it's not working for anyone
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aaronpk source*
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tantek s/*target*/*source*
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tantek thanks aaronpk
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tantek the datetime should link to the original
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bret tantek check out the link below ben werdmuler's name
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bret that links back to the original
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tantek not for me
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bret huh, really?
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tantek Ben Werdmuller's name itself links to his reply permalink - but that's wrong. his name should link to his home page
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tantek the date underneath his name " June 23, 2013 at 2:37 pm " links to https://willnorris.com/2013/06/testing-indieweb-comments#comment-65632
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bret yeah, ok so we are seeing the same thing
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tantek so which wordpress plugin is this?
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tantek does it have a wiki page on indiewebcamp.com?
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tantek does it have a name?
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bret i think http://notizblog.org/author/matthias-pfefferle/
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tantek he named it afterhimself?
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tantek bret - that's a person not a plugin
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bret sorry, im being confusing
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bret https://github.com/pfefferle/wordpress-indieweb
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bret thats the plugin
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bret *i think*
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aaronpk here is an example of one of my rare instances where I customize the POSSE'd tweet text beyond what my script shortens it to automatically: http://aaronparecki.com/notes/2013/09/24/1/
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pdurbin tantek: meh. maybe some day
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tantek pdurbin - how far along are you towards IndieMark Level 1? http://indiewebcamp.com/indiemark#Level_1
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tantek aaronpk - how's your handling of webmentions that target your permashortlinks coming along?
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aaronpk :(
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pdurbin tantek: buh. some of that
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tantek I figured I'd ask because what you linked to uses your permashortlink
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tantek https://twitter.com/aaronpk/status/382649181497597952
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@aaronpk @panic @cabel We're seeing some weirdness with rendering HTML views! Compare: http://aaronparecki.com/notes/2013/09/24/1/
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aaronpk it's still mostly auto-posse'd
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tantek whoa - how odd - in the display in the web view on Twitter it shows the permashortlink
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tantek but Loqi expanded it to the permalink here?!?
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aaronpk loqi un-shortens links before hitting IRC
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Loqi yeah!
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bret high five Loqi!
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tantek pdurbin some = 0.2, 0.4, 0.6?
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tantek there's points there so you can explicitly say what IndieMark level you've achieved so far, even if partial
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aaronpk https://github.com/aaronpk/p3k/issues
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pdurbin tantek: that sounds like work :)
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tantek do you disagree with any of the requirements? I mean - it's supposed to *help* you become more indieweb ;)
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pdurbin hmm, no, they all seem like good things
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tantek cool. was just wondering if it helped you self-evaluate how far long you were or not. and/or provide guidance for what to work on next.
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bret one of these days ill add up my points
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bret maybe this afternoon
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pdurbin it feels a little... prescriptive
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tantek bret - for the moment at least take a critical look at Level 1
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tantek pdurbin - would it help if each point had its own (how) and (why) links to provide more explanation?
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bret If not tonight, tantek, I'll put some time aside in the morning tomorrow
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pdurbin tantek: meh, it's pretty detailed already
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pdurbin but not everyone may be into fulfilling every single point
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pdurbin does that make them less virtuous from and indieweb perspective? ;)
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tantek pdurbin - that's why I want to make sure the points are such that they seem "obvious" as something essential to being indieweb
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pdurbin an*
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tantek the requirements have been collected by studying what existing indieweb implementers have organically implemented as a whole
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