#indiewebcamp 2013-08-24

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tommorris tantek: will sort out more with the article in the morning.
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tantek thanks tommorris
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Loqi [mention] http://www.goldcoastcreativeagency.com.au/2013/08/conferences-roundup-upcoming-web-design-events-sept-2013-feb-2014/ linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/2013/UK (pingback)
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@joejohnston Jailbreak the Internet on Huffington Post Live. @joejohnston, @datacosmos, @matthewjosef http://live.huffingtonpost.com/r/segment/indie-web-cloud-computing-data-security-internet-freedom/521509f102a7600dad0002aa #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/371066413584089088)
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aaronpk whoa what
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aaronpk huffington post interview with:
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aaronpk Augustin Bralley @datacosmos (San Francisco, CA) Gratzi.org Co-Founder And Personal Cloud Developer
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aaronpk Matthew Schutte @matthewjosef (San Francisco, CA) Founder Of Building The Collaborative Internet
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aaronpk Joe Johnston @joejohnston (San Francisco, CA) Connect.me Co-Founder And Open Web Advocate
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aaronpk "jailbreak is a term that is usually used to talk about overcoming the limitations of a system, often without the consent of those who created the system" - Augustin Bralley
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@matthewjosef RT @datacosmos: #dataecosystems #indiewebcamp Mycelial networks of autonomous nodes will replace the skyscraper models of today. (twitter.com/_/status/371071083882885120)
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tantek aaronpk - indeed whoa what? watching now.
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tantek whoa!
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tantek "they call it … the indieweb"
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tantek we need a transcript of that huffpo video stat!
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tantek oh man, the first guy is like a buzzword stream
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tantek and is like, oh that group is not our group, (insert monty python meaning of life reference)
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tantek woohoo! Augustin! who was at indiewebcamp 2013!
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tantek @datacosmos
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tantek much more eloquent than the first speaker
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tantek and the 3rd speaker is also a bit buzzwordy, but not as bad as 1st speaker - is getting a few points across.
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tantek he's asking the right questions
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tantek what happens to my data when the company goes away
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tantek and he just explained POSSE!
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tantek wow this is 34 minutes long
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aaronpk yeah I was impressed. I stopped after about 6 minutes, will have to finish it later
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tantek I stopped at 16 minutes, will also have to finish later.
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tantek still, should add to videos about page
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tantek.com created /User:Auggernaut.com (+79) "stub with an h-card" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /videos_about_the_indieweb (+239) "add Huffpo video" (view diff)
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tantek ok now up to minute 21
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tantek and pausing to go get an evening coffee.
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tantek if anyone is around in SF - I'm heading to Four Barrel if you want to chat indieweb over coffees. nearest BART is 16th st.
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tantek.com edited /IndieMark (+975) "braindump some todos that have been in my head" (view diff)
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pdurbin I'd chat indieweb but I won't be in SF (Union Square) until this conference: http://www.oracle.com/javaone
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tantek decided to go to The Grove Yerba Buena instead
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tantek pdurbin - perhaps we can co-organize an indieweb meetup nearby/adjacent to that conference.
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bret tantek thats where I was before flying out of osfw3c! haha they have terrible internet there
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@wavis RT @joejohnston: Jailbreak the Internet on Huffington Post Live. @joejohnston, @datacosmos, @matthewjosef http://live.huffingtonpost.com/r/segment/indie-web-cloud-computing-data-security-internet-freedom/521509f102a7600dad0002aa #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/371136840834629632)
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Loqi [mention] http://apcrunch.com/conferences-roundup-upcoming-web-design-events-sept-2013-feb-2014-2/ linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/2013/UK (pingback)
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neuro` Good morning (UGT indeed)
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Loqi [mention] http://apcrunch.com/conferences-roundup-upcoming-web-design-events-sept-2013-feb-2014-4/ linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/2013/UK (pingback)
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Loqi [mention] http://apcrunch.com/conferences-roundup-upcoming-web-design-events-sept-2013-feb-2014/ linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/2013/UK (pingback)
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Loqi [mention] http://apcrunch.com/conferences-roundup-upcoming-web-design-events-sept-2013-feb-2014-3/ linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/2013/UK (pingback)
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@mvz @fdevillamil I feel status is more clearly time-based. Also, what's the #IndieWeb 'standard'? @ya_f @ookook (twitter.com/_/status/371177183299248128)
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@portenkirchner reading “Meet the Hackers Who Want to Jailbreak the Internet” http://www.wired.com/wiredenterprise/2013/08/indie-web/ #indiewebcamp #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/371202514231640064)
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Loqi [mention] http://rehavapress.com/conferences-roundup-upcoming-web-design-events-sept-2013-feb-2014 linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/2013/UK (pingback)
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@_Ayudos Men Dilemmas: Custard Sisters #Production Alicia Custard http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1006427521/men-dilemmas-custard-sisters-production #webseries #indieweb #indieshow #indietv #ayudos #films (twitter.com/_/status/371238077207183360)
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@FilmCrowdfunder RT @_Ayudos: Men Dilemmas: Custard Sisters #Production Alicia Custard http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1006427521/men-dilemmas-custard-sisters-production #webseries #indieweb #indieshow #indietv #ayu… (twitter.com/_/status/371240678606766080)
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kodfabrik.se edited /2013/UK (+360) "/* Creators */" (view diff)
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Loqi [mention] http://boonjackmedia.com/multimedia/blog-roll-its-whats-happening-with-multimedia-online-tech-web-develop-video-code-technology-internet-online-media-revolution-html5-website-cloud/multimedia-video-website-virtual-private-server-hosting-images-photos-content-management-platform-system-reseller-white-label-vps-cloud-mp3-hd/conferences-roundup-upcoming-web-design-events-sept.-2013-%e2%80%93-feb.-2014/ linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/2013/UK (pingback)
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Loqi [mention] http://46.4.39.138:8082/conferences-roundup-upcoming-web-design-events-sept-2013-feb-2014/ linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/2013/UK (pingback)
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Loqi [mention] http://46.4.39.138:8082/conferences-roundup-upcoming-web-design-events-sept-2013-feb-2014-2/ linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/2013/UK (pingback)
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aralbalkan.com edited /2013/UK (+344) "/* Creators */ added myself" (view diff)
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@aral Looking forward to Indie Web Camp UK on Sept 7/8 in Brighton. http://indiewebcamp.com/2013/ More info on #indiewebcamp http://www.wired.com/wiredenterprise/2013/08/indie-web/ (twitter.com/_/status/371284720287768576)
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@adrianshort RT @aral: Looking forward to Indie Web Camp UK on Sept 7/8 in Brighton. http://indiewebcamp.com/2013/ More info on #indiewebcamp http://t.co/qYp… (twitter.com/_/status/371284847454474240)
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@Bestdietbook RT @gaelynnwoods: Is bigger always better? With regards to #books, of course... Chime in on THE BIG HEAT: http://gaelynnwoods.blogspot.com/2013/08/does-size-matter-sorry-all-you-sex.html #indieauth… (twitter.com/_/status/371291891712950272)
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@_Ayudos Men Dilemmas: Custard Sisters #Production Alicia Custard http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1006427521/men-dilemmas-custard-sisters-production #webseries #indieweb #indieshow #indietv #ayudos #films 2 (twitter.com/_/status/371328752137285632)
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@FilmCrowdfunder RT @_Ayudos: Men Dilemmas: Custard Sisters #Production Alicia Custard http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1006427521/men-dilemmas-custard-sisters-production #webseries #indieweb #indieshow #indietv #ayu… (twitter.com/_/status/371328857464664064)
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@themiurgo RT @aral: Looking forward to Indie Web Camp UK on Sept 7/8 in Brighton. http://indiewebcamp.com/2013/ More info on #indiewebcamp http://t.co/qYp… (twitter.com/_/status/371343151023538177)
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@Becky_Faith RT @aral: Looking forward to Indie Web Camp UK on Sept 7/8 in Brighton. http://indiewebcamp.com/2013/ More info on #indiewebcamp http://t.co/qYp… (twitter.com/_/status/371345859016806402)
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@gaelynnwoods RT @kennhoss: Summer have you sweltering? Check out some great #books on the Independent Author Network - http://www.independentauthornetwork.com/kenneth-hoss.html #indieauth… (twitter.com/_/status/371353547855892480)
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@AberrantTrilogy RT @kennhoss: Summer have you sweltering? Check out some great #books on the Independent Author Network - http://www.independentauthornetwork.com/kenneth-hoss.html #indieauth… (twitter.com/_/status/371354796428890112)
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@dellasm RT @kennhoss: Summer have you sweltering? Check out some great #books on the Independent Author Network - http://www.independentauthornetwork.com/kenneth-hoss.html #indieauth… (twitter.com/_/status/371354849453281280)
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@dellasm RT @EpigraphPubServ: Check out http://www.epigraphps.com ! @EpigraphPubServ can fulfill your publishing needs! #SelfPublishing #IndieAuth… (twitter.com/_/status/371360344838766592)
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neuro` tantek: hi. Idea for moving from statuses to notes comes from last night conversation here.
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tantek checks logs
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neuro` tantek: when I asked about hiding statuses form the main timeline. You and Ben mentionned notes
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tantek yeah - statuses are not really used much in practice on the indieweb
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tantek turns out once you "post" a status, it becomes much more like a note
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tantek so just use notes
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neuro` I didn't know how to name it when I started to code
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neuro` I was finally able to display everything the way I wanted like on http://t37.net/ home
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neuro` Notes and articles mixed
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tantek neuro` the grey bar with the orange RSS icon clips out the top of the text at the top
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tantek FF23.0.1
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neuro` checking
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tantek I really like your note styling with your avatar on the first para
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neuro` Thank you. It's plain Bootstrap styling.
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tantek nice composite updates feed view
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neuro` is downloading a recent Firefox
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tantek now checking Safari
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neuro` Should look like http://t37.net/files/resource/1244/Capture_d__cran_2013-08-24___22.03.53.png
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tantek ah - looks like the orange RSS icon is wrapping to its own line in FF thus overlapping the text below it.
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neuro` OK on Safari
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tantek no - two lines in Safari
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tantek three in FF
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tantek (on Mac)
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neuro` Which resolution? I'm on Mac too
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tantek Safari 5.1.1
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tantek oh yeah, just try making the window narrower
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neuro` On my Mac (Mountain Lion, 15" MBP), it's OK on every browser.
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neuro` Oh, OK
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neuro` Will fix this
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neuro` Thank you
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tantek nicely done with your POSSEing to Twitter with abbreviatino and permashortlinks
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neuro` is installing an IE6 virtual machine, just in case ;)
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tantek agrees with http://t37.net/st/30841-the-more-i-use-getpublify-short-statuses-the-more-i-feel-like-i-ve-found-the-mis
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tantek so true
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neuro` I actually ripped lots of your way of doing, starting with perma short links
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tantek I documented all of it here so you could! http://indiewebcamp.com/Twitter#POSSE_to_Twitter
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tantek I figure I might as well share all the details I figure out ;)
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Loqi SHARE ALL THE DETAILS http://loqi.me/7qf
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tantek :D
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neuro` I actualy started to think about it before I landed here. I only follow very few people on a really regular basis (2 of them from the time I landed on #technorati btw)
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tantek except I have to ask what format is 52e02x? (from the permashortlink)
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tantek technorati! back when it used to search many blogs
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neuro` Random. I added the URL shortener way before hearing about base60
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tantek oh - is it from a database id?
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neuro` Yup, I even got top100 for 2 days thanks to some Wordpress themes I released before Kevin Marks manually removed me.
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neuro` Not a database id
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neuro` Just random() and if it exists, random() again. I need to fix it, it's stupid
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tantek oh dear
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neuro` Yeah, I know.
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neuro` When I did that, I never planned to have 30k lines in that table
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tantek uh oh
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neuro` I'll find a more convenient way after I finish moving statuses to notes, upgrading to ckeditor4 or dumping it as a visual editor (still not sure)
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neuro` Adding mf to the theme
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neuro` etc...
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@respectnet RT @joejohnston: Jailbreak the Internet on Huffington Post Live. @joejohnston, @datacosmos, @matthewjosef http://live.huffingtonpost.com/r/segment/indie-web-cloud-computing-data-security-internet-freedom/521509f102a7600dad0002aa #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/371365214240776192)
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tantek.com created /ux (+20) "because, let's face it, "ux" is the new catchall term for design" (view diff)
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tantek.com created /ui (+20) "because Ui is considered part of design as well" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /design (+1727) "document design/UI/UX discussion from [[irc/2013-08-22]]" (view diff)
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tantek ok aaronpk - per your request to put it on the home page, I'm going to try to do so.
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tantek.com edited /Main_Page (+871) "add Distinguishing section with what I think are the three most important distinguishing aspects of the indieweb." (view diff)
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tantek aaronpk, for your review: http://indiewebcamp.com/#Distinguishing
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@grantpotter "Instead of sharecroppers, we must become homesteaders." #indieweb https://medium.com/indieweb-thoughts/9d0e36524dbf (twitter.com/_/status/371398786720862209)
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markos.gaivo.net edited /2013/UK (-326) "/* Creators */ Removed myself :(" (view diff)
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