#indiewebcamp 2013-07-12

2013-07-12 UTC
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bret This looks like a neat project: https://github.com/rigoneri/syte
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bret shit, maybe I should just switch to docpad or something
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pfefferle good morning
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pfefferle aaronpk: what do you think about that https://github.com/aaronpk/mention-client/pull/3 ???
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bret i have not seen him for a while, I think he's busy with stuff
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pfefferle ah ok, thanks bret
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cweiske I do it similarly: https://github.com/pear2/Services_Pingback/blob/master/src/PEAR2/Services/Pingback/Client.php#L205
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cweiske pfefferle, you should htmlspecialchar() the values
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pfefferle ah thanks
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pfefferle added https://github.com/pfefferle/mention-client/commit/6c59be30400db4bb1502f90cbba73039ac716d37
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cweiske now let's hope that $method has no special chars in it :)
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pfefferle ah
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pfefferle damn :)
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@kxrz The #indieweb as a minimum viable social web ecosystem http://werd.io/entry/51dca7e2bed7de945debf707/the-indieweb-as-a-minimum-viable-social-web-ecosystem?utm_source=buffer&utm_campaign=Buffer&utm_content=buffer225c3&utm_medium=twitter
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@fdevillamil @ookook Pavatar is totally in the philosophy of the #indieweb so we should support it. I’ll just struggle a little bit more with the plugin
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aaronpk good morning!
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aaronpk who wants to write "this week in the IndieWeb" so I don't have to scroll through a week of IRC logs? :)
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pfefferle :)
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pfefferle good morning
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aaronpk san diego network speeds are ridiculously slow. it's been hard to be online at all, feels like I'm being choked when I try
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hupili morning~ It's night here now~
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erikmaarten morning!
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erikmaarten aaronpk: scrolling through these IRC logs takes quite a while, quite a lot of conversation here once in a while. I guess in a near future one might just have a quick look at notes and articles tagged with indieweb or so for an overview ...
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barnabywalters either that or we need to get even better and documenting our discussions on the wiki
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erikmaarten hupili: same here, it's kind of confusing which greetings to use :)
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tantek good morning :)
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barnabywalters aaronpk: looks like Loqi’s not here, and todays logs are a bit short
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tantek (use the greeting local to you, thus communicating to others your sense of time during the day)
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erikmaarten barnabywalters: yes, but it's easy to get a feeling of what's been happening recently by checking the recent changes on the wiki
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erikmaarten well, it's still the best way, I guess
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tantek erikmaarten, yes :) http://indiewebcamp.com/FAQ#What_is_new
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tantek re: fedevillamil
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tantek Pavatar is bad tech. needless reinvention.
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barnabywalters hupili: just saw your page, are you still having webmention issues? I’d be happy to help you test
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aaronpk erikmaarten: hupili: it's always "Good morning (UGT)" http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html
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Loqi barnabywalters: sandeepshetty left you a message on 7/11 at 11:07am: https://github.com/webignition/absolute-url-deriver/issues/2
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aaronpk welcome back loqi
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tantek http://microformats.org/wiki/rel-pavatar
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Loqi who, me?
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Loqi barnabywalters: sandeepshetty left you a message on 7/11 at 3:13pm: See the comment I added to that issue. It looks like "1.3.*@stable" is resulting in composer downloading 1.3 of webignition/absolute-url-deriver instead of the latest version which is 1.3.4.
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tantek in particular http://microformats.org/wiki/rejected-formats#Pavatar
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tantek wow that was old
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aaronpk looks liek he got caught in a netsplit
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erikmaarten I mean, it's easy to check the recent changes, but I they're in such a flurry, though I guess only watching for the big changes might be a good strategy
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erikmaarten character count is probably a good clue, haven't actually thought much about that before :)
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tantek and I'm off for a run. ttyl indieweb folks!
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erikmaarten aaronpk: haha, that's a nice solution!
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aaronpk irc logs filled from my buffer. thx for noticing barnabywalters
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barnabywalters aaronpk: ah cool, thanks
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aaronpk bye for now!
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tantek aaronpk, re: who wants to write "this week in the IndieWeb", barnabywalters nailed it: we need to get even better and documenting our discussions on the wiki
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tantek I feel like it is fine to just skim IRC logs. if something was important someone would have captured it on the wiki.
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tantek if no one took the time to capture it on the wiki, then it's likely ok to have missed it.
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tantek now actually leaving :)
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erikmaarten hupili: what's the incentive for people to adopt the SNSAPI if they can get all feeds they want anyway using RSS (or even better: microformats)?
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hupili erikmaarten: I think we will insert more meta info later so that you can find the original posts after several level of forwarding
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hupili I think the function is quite similar to microformats. I just learned this one these days.
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erikmaarten I'm not sure I understand exactly what you mean by levels of forwarding, but ... oh, you just said it
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erikmaarten Yeah, I was thinking that too
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erikmaarten and I'm guessing microformats may be a simpler solution
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hupili Yes, I think microformats is better in terms of supporting web based status and replies.
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hupili The current benefit of SNSAPI may be the other side. That is to scriptably bridge existing platforms.
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barnabywalters hupili: what do you mean by bridge?
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hupili My use case is quite diverse. I go to different silos regularly and use SNSAPI to sync between them. At the same time, I also have those information stored in a unified format locally
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barnabywalters hupili: sounds like a mixture of POSSE and PESOS — you speak in the present tense, is there working code you’re using personally?
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hupili yes, e.g. https://github.com/hupili/sns-router/blob/master/hooks.py#L29
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hupili this 'hook_new_message' piece is the logic to collect all my statuses on those SNS
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hupili you can write more complex logic there
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barnabywalters hupili: so you’re pulling in content you’ve created on other silos?
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barnabywalters and republishing it on your own site?
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hupili yeah, this is the example that is briding things in one way.
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hupili I'm also update my status via the CLI of my middleware so that it automatically go to all my SNS
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barnabywalters great, you’ve implemented both POSSE and PESOS! can you log onto the wiki and add your implementation w/ example URLs to http://indiewebcamp.com/PESOS and http://indiewebcamp.com/POSSE?
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barnabywalters just realised there is no implementation list for PESOS
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hupili barnabywalters: sure, I'm planning. Because I just found this great camp, I'm trying to checkout what are the existing works. Still a lot to learn
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erikmaarten I'd like to know, too
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hupili I'll come back and write more. It's sleeping time now~
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waterpigs.co.uk edited /PESOS (+699) "/* Disadvantages */ created implementations section with eschnou" (view diff)
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erikmaarten right
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erikmaarten how do you sync? If you'd post something on Weibo, you might then for example sync it to automatically to Twitter, for example?
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waterpigs.co.uk edited /export (+157) "/* Articles about data export */ linked to my Data Export research" (view diff)
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waterpigs.co.uk edited /export (+27) "/* See Also */ added some silo links" (view diff)
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erikmaarten goodnight, hupili!
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Loqi sleep tight!
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waterpigs.co.uk edited /Diaspora (+132) "added format syndication anecdote" (view diff)
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erikmaarten.com edited /IRC (+390) "added paragraph about universal greeting time" (view diff)
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barnabywalters good thinking erikmaarten
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erikmaarten thanks :)
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erikmaarten it's simple but quite helpful, had never heard about it before aaronpk mentioned it
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barnabywalters me neither
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waterpigs.co.uk edited /webmention (+271) "/* Manually sending webmentions */ moved to “testing”, split into sending and accepting" (view diff)
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@zakkain @wesleypennock I don't want to blog anywhere except on my own site anymore. Part of my slow transition towards #indieweb