#indiewebcamp 2013-03-24

2013-03-24 UTC
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tantek.com edited /2013/UK (+90) "/* RSVP */ note David Kendal's project Publish Jr. which runs his blog at davidkendal.net" (view diff)
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dpk :-/
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tantek nudge nudge :D
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tantek aaronpk - what's the name of your implementation that runs aaronparecki.com (and caseorganic?)
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tantek caseorganic.com that is. ahem.
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tantek.com edited /projects (+16) "/* Falcon */ link to a main article on Falcon" (view diff)
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@tomhenrich Google Reader: moved to self-hosted #ttRSS instance.
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tantek.com created /cassis (+230) "disambig" (view diff)
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tantek.com created /tmhOAuth (+149) "stub" (view diff)
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tantek.com created /cassis.js (+193) "stub" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /Falcon (+3710) "expand article with info from projects page, document code files, template(s), and storage format of current Falcon implementation" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /Falcon (+20) "/* Storage format */ retrieved sounds better/more accurate than extracted" (view diff)
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tantek tommorris, aaronpk - I've documented the storage format I'm using for Falcon. So I pass the baton to you two to document as much about your implementations (Ferocity, and aaronpk, what's yours called?) on the wiki. Figuring we can learn from each other.
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tantek !tell barnabywalters - you too, what's your blogging engine called (add it to indiewebcamp.com/projects) and document at least its storage format per: http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2013-03-23#t1364092337 e.g. http://indiewebcamp.com/Falcon
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell him that when I see him next
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tantek.com edited /Falcon (+409) "/* Templates */ almost forgot about the minimal feed template" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /Falcon (+712) "/* Storage format */ note that falconpost appends and reads rel alternate urls to syndicated copies on hentry elements" (view diff)
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@brianjesse "2005 was not a magic time of possibilities that have since died" #rss #indieweb
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tantek.com edited /Falcon (+55) "/* Storage format */ reword / clarity" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /Falcon (+28) "/* Storage format */ POSSE of course" (view diff)
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@BarnabyWalters #watching/#listening to @aral’s “The High Cost of Free” (slides and audio) #indieweb #ownyourcontent #bookmark (http://waterpigs.co.uk/notes/1180/)
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caseorganic tantek: nice
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aaronpk tantek: hello! just got back to my computer after yesterday's travel
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aaronpk in Palm Springs now at the Esri conference
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aaronpk I've always been bad about naming things
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tantek aaronpk - if you don't name it then maybe one of us will, like you could call it
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tantek bloqi
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aaronpk LOL
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tantek it sorta looks like "blog" ;)
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aaronpk I called my previous iteration of it "pkwiki", although it isn't exactly a wiki
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tantek and it sounds cute
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tantek pkwiki sounds too close to pbwiki
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aaronpk oh true
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aaronpk although now it's pbworks
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tantek still plenty of legacy
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tantek and it's not just a wiki!
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aaronpk yea
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tantek (what you've built that is)
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@nicocharlery All my bank account data just by running a ruby script \o/ so so good ! #OwnYourData
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@cleble_lebl RT @nicocharlery: All my bank account data just by running a ruby script \o/ so so good ! #OwnYourData
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Loqi barnabywalters: tantek left you a message on 3/23 at 7:34pm: - you too, what's your blogging engine called (add it to indiewebcamp.com/projects) and document at least its storage format per: http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2013-03-23#t1364092337 e.g. http://indiewebcamp.com/Falcon
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barnabywalters tantek: will do, although coincidentally I’m actually changing the storage format/logic right now!
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barnabywalters moving from pure DB to files + DB for indexes, after frustration and general bad feelings toward DBs
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tommorris I'm leaning towards moving to something like MongoDB. I'm increasingly reaching frustration with traditional RDBMSes too.
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barnabywalters new taproot design principle: build software which feels safe — discomfort, awkwardness, security and privacy are all secondary to safety of data
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tommorris is rather proud of this blog post: http://tommorris.org/posts/8160
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barnabywalters tommorris: you should be, it’s a great piece of writing
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barnabywalters I wonder if the guy will ever read it
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tommorris I'd like to think so.
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barnabywalters tommorris: yeah, mongo is up for consideration for the indexing half of my persistent storage needs, esp. as it has geo indexing
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tommorris the nice thing about Mongo is that while I think it fails as a large-scale database (we use it at my new job and there are... interesting issues)... it scales *down* pretty well
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tommorris like, it does geo stuff brilliantly with a lot less fuss than something like PostGIS
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waterpigs.co.uk created /Taproot (+2266) "Created with taproot documentation" (view diff)
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waterpigs.co.uk edited /Taproot (+624) "Fixed template tag, added principles" (view diff)
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barnabywalters I think that, coinciding with redoing my persistent storage, I might do away with my internal usage of ActivityStreams. It’s not like publishing AS data is ever likely to be useful, and some of the semantics are dodgy
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barnabywalters probably roll my own based on bits I like from AS mixed with mostly µf semantics
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tommorris I'm sort of mixing together any metadata that's applicable
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tommorris so, microformats, activitystreams, rdfa (foaf, sioc, schema.org, GND etc.)
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barnabywalters I’m going for a flatter version of the µf JSON representation — no properties key (type is a property, children is irrelevant) and much less use of arrays
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barnabywalters tommorris: I’d be interested to know what you’ve picked from schema.org (IMO it mostly useless)
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barnabywalters s/it/it’s
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Loqi barnabywalters meant to say: tommorris: I’d be interested to know what you’ve picked from schema.org (IMO it’s mostly useless)
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tommorris I'm a schema:Person and all my posts are schema:BlogPosting's.
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aaronpk name-brainstorming for my site's software... "p3k" pronounced "peek"!
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barnabywalters aaronpk: nice :)
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barnabywalters I find it really interesting how so few of us open source our entire software — I was talking to people at digpen this saturday about how *not* collaborating on code has forced us to collaborate in more interesting ways
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aaronpk agreed!
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aaronpk also far fewer arguments, since we don't have to agree on code styles, frameworks, languages, etc
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barnabywalters aaronpk: good point, I hadn’t thought of that
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aaronpk tantek: I'm thinking "p3k" (pronounced "peek") as the name of the software powering my site
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tantek nice
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aaronpk the three P's are "personal publishing platform"
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tantek makes sense!
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tantek is reading http://tommorris.org/posts/8160
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tantek that's impressive patience and restraint tommorris
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tantek seems like another haters gonna hate data point (the way they mixed in all kinds of *phobias). which is sad.
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tantek.com edited /Taproot (+14) "see also projects" (view diff)
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tantek.com created /Ferocity (+596) "stub" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /Falcon (+440) "/* Code Files */ how code makes its way from Falcon to cassis.js, and functions therein that have found usefulness outside of Falcon" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /projects (+445) "/* experimental */ add Taproot, main link to Ferocity" (view diff)
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@Matheyes “Démarrer sur l'IndieWeb” http://indiewebcamp.com/Getting_Started-fr
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