#indiewebcamp 2013-03-05

2013-03-05 UTC
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erinjo Loqi good morning
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Loqi :)
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erinjo !tell barnabywalters I watched the web action toolkit video - haven’t installed it yet, but will. Love the idea! I have some designs for a project I’m working on that I’ll share when they’re done. Might be useful as a reference for the opening the tweet window in a new page thing.
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell him that when I see him next
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erinjo Thank you Loqi
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Loqi barnabywalters: erinjo left you a message 1 hour, 14 minutes ago: I watched the web action toolkit video - haven’t installed it yet, but will. Love the idea! I have some designs for a project I’m working on that I’ll share when they’re done. Might be useful as a reference for the opening the tweet window in a new page thing.
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barnabywalters erinjo: thanks! I’m just about to try to fix some weird bugs causing it to not work properly in FF and Opera
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erinjo barnabywalters: Cool. Let me know when the bugs are squashed and I'll download and play around with it
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bnvk erinjo: of which "web action toolkit" dost thou speak?
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aaronpk bnvk: barnaby's thing! http://waterpigs.co.uk/articles/web-action-toolbelt-guide/
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erinjo bnvk: this one: https://github.com/barnabywalters/web-action-hero-toolbelt
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barnabywalters hey bnvk, how’s it going?
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bnvk erinjo: aaronpk: neat, I'll check it out :)
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bnvk barnabywalters: oh, hey there! It's going pretty good! How about yourself?
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barnabywalters good thanks — been doing a lot of gigs, instrument making, webactions stuff and iceland preparation
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bnvk barnabywalters: music gigs or coding gigs or both?
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barnabywalters music gigs
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erinjo ooh iceland!
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barnabywalters I’ve never really thought of coding a gigs, that’s interesting
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barnabywalters s/a/as
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Loqi barnabywalters meant to say: I’ve never reaslly thought of coding as gigs, thast’s interesting
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bnvk barnabywalters: yay, Iceland :) I need to get back to Brian and confirm if / when I'm going as well!
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barnabywalters heh, that’s more broken than the first one
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tantek lol
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erinjo so many people going to Iceland lately, very jealous
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bnvk barnabywalters: when are you flying in / staying until again?
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barnabywalters bnvk: I’m flying on the 30th, staying for four months
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bnvk erinjo: who else has been going? I'm only aware of Pascal (as I'm a subscriber to his emails)
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aaronpk my parents just got back!
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aaronpk from iceland that is
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bnvk aaronpk: really? Aww you didn't tell me that! How'd they like it?
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erinjo had a couple different friends from college go in the last 6 months
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aaronpk they have a crazy good deal. amber and I are going to go too.
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barnabywalters many of my friends and relatives have wanted to go for ages, they seem to be lining up to stay with me! Seeing as I have no idea how big (or otherwise) the apartment is I’m not sure quite how viable it is
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tantek anybody else going to sxsw besides amber and aaronpk?
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aaronpk you can go to iceland for like $700 per person for the flight and hotel
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bnvk yep, and it's a short flight (from Seattle), only 6.5 hours
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erinjo *adds to travel list*
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tantek wow that seems very short
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tantek I guess over the pole it's not that far?
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aaronpk yea it's like half way from portland to amsterdam, i fly over all the time
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barnabywalters only 3.5 hrs from London — the journey to heathrow will take longer than that!
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bnvk lulz
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erinjo I worked with a guy in Italy whose girlfriend lived in Iceland and he really liked flying back and forth, from Rome I think. The tickets seemed really cheap too
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barnabywalters FF is weird. Earlier, and for the past 30 mins, web action activation has not worked. Now it does.
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barnabywalters oh well, I get to close that issue at least!
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barnabywalters okay, webaction toolbelt is working fine and dandy on FF now — <action> activation and social button replacement is working fine for me
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tantek nice to see new folks signing up for IndieWebCamp2013
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barnabywalters tantek: any chance class="h-card" could be added to auto-linked @names in #cassis?
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barnabywalters Just looking through the code thinking of adding it myself but it is hard to read
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tantek oh good call
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tantek barnabywalters - however, do you really want the @name text inside to be their "name"?
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tantek because that's what'll happen with implied name property and all that
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tantek I think that's why I didn't add it before
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barnabywalters well, if not that then *some* class to indicate it has been transformed from an @name would be equally useful
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tantek if you have code that looks up an @name and replaces it with their real name, that might be the right place put in the h-card markup. The autolinker doesn't do that because it doesn't have a database of @names to names
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barnabywalters my use case doesn’t care if it’s a µf or not, only if the link was converted from an @name
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tantek a.auto-link[href^="http://twitter.com/"]
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barnabywalters that could include links to statuses
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tantek true
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barnabywalters so I could do extra processing, but it’d be great to solve the problem at the source
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tantek another possibility would be include markup indicating that the @name is a nickname
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tantek and if a consuming client was worried about polluting real "names" with userids, they could check to see if nickname === name and then treat it accordingly
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barnabywalters tantek: that would be nice — an extra element though
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tantek yeah
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barnabywalters unless mf allows <span class="h-card p-nickname">
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tantek well it does, but that means the p-nickname is itself an h-card
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barnabywalters oh good point - it’d muck up nested mf
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tantek e.g. <span class="p-location h-card">
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barnabywalters so not an option
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tantek other possibility is to just use a poshformat for the username
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tantek rather than making it a full hcard
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tantek h-x-username
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barnabywalters that’d do me. In this context I am using cassis auto link as a tokeniser which other listeners then manipulate the output of
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barnabywalters instead of trying to do multiple rounds of @name replacement
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tantek ok that seems like the more minimal change
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tantek so we'll go with that
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barnabywalters awesome
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tantek then heck, you could change the h-x-username into an h-card if you have their name on your end
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barnabywalters tantek: that’s the plan
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barnabywalters currently I have three listeners doing @name replacement: my own system (for h-card + rel), identengine (for h-card) and cassis for anything those don’t catch
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barnabywalters but it is inelegant
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barnabywalters lots of regexes. I would rather have one and do the rest in HTML
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tantek it works amazingly though
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barnabywalters I’m also considering storing (not just caching) all calls to identengine in the local one, so I can add rel values and only have to query the great but rather slow indentengine API once per person
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barnabywalters instead of once per person per week, which is what I have at the mo
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tantek ok cassis.js updated
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barnabywalters great, thanks
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tantek about the code being "hard to read" - probably because I'm writing it in a minimal C-style.
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barnabywalters yeah, I’m not used to reading C-like code. heck, I’m more comfortable with assembler!
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tantek already have updated the cassis on my site too - seems to work fine
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tantek of course I don't do anything with the h-x-username
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tantek but at least it will now show up in any microformats2 parsing of it
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barnabywalters I am dim and get lost once there are more variables than the average var name length
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tantek I like to minimize variables
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barnabywalters takes all kinds, each to their own, etc.
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