#indiewebcamp 2013-02-17
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tantek if you think it's good enough to move forward with now - would be great if as co-organizers you could sign that publicly: http://indiewebcamp.com/code-of-conduct#Signed
# tantek I'm going to be contacting other conferences that I'm either speaking at or attending and asking them to also post a code of conduct - would be great to use IndieWebCamp as one of the examples (in addition to what we've documented already on the wiki: http://indiewebcamp.com/code-of-conduct-examples )
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@benatkin good article on self-hosting http://www.slashgeek.net/2013/02/17/self-host-everything/ yes, backup is key. it's built into no-lock-in services like @pagely @zippykid #indieweb
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tantek.com edited /code-of-conduct (+58) "IndieWebCamp is an intentionally positive community. Be constructive." (view diff)
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indiewebcamp-vis hello
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barnabywalters greetings Shufla, welcome to #indiewebcamp
# Shufla greetings. I hope I am not speaking only to the bots.
# barnabywalters nope :)
# Shufla \o/
# Shufla so, I came here beacuse of suring into indiewebcamp website. I feel that one link was missing: how developer could help your movement. maybe it is hidden somewhere, but you know...surifing the web on Sunday evening is always "fast"
# barnabywalters Shufla: the best way to contribute is to set up your identity on the web (as per the Getting Started guide), then move toward owning your content on the web and POSSEing it out to 3rd party networks
# barnabywalters do you currently have a personal URL?
# barnabywalters a domain you own which represents you on the web?
# Shufla barnabywalters: yep, I do. but I am not "content creator". I do not write blogs, I do not use social media. I am a software developer which would like to share effort of creating "GNU" movement of 21st century :)
# barnabywalters well, code is content :)
# barnabywalters self-hosted github equivalent is not something we’ve been working on yet
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aaronpk that already exists: http://gitlab.org/
# barnabywalters aaronpk: last time I checked they didn’t have cross-domain pull requests
# barnabywalters that is my acid test for indieweb code hosting
# Shufla I am not open source developer "by definition". What I was looking for was a list of project which are needed to bootstrap IW for normal Internet users. AFAIK there are not so many blog engines, photo engines, etc which are simple enough for content creator to use and maintan. I expected to find the list of indie web technical needs somewwhere.
# aaronpk this is the list of things people are currently building http://indiewebcamp.com/projects
# barnabywalters Shufla: yeah, having a list of technical needs is a great idea
# barnabywalters most of us dogfood all of our content, so we have a very exacting and personal knowledge of exactly what needs doing
# barnabywalters it might be useful to document it somewhere
# aaronpk also, https://github.com/indieweb/ and check out the Issues on any of the projects for low-hanging fruit
# Shufla And now something totally different, I saw once unhosted ( https://unhosted.org/ ) - it seems technically compatible with your movement.
# barnabywalters yep, unhosted is a great movement
# barnabywalters we are more concerned with identity and content at the mo but there is significant overlap between the two
# Shufla aaronpk: the github link is nice, thanks
# barnabywalters in fact, one of the unhosted setup guides includes how to set up something similar to POSSE on an unhosted serve
# barnabywalters s/serve/server
# Shufla thanks for the links, I will study more. see you guys.
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# barnabywalters aaronpk: you mean sandeepshetty’s webmention? that wasn’t even JSON, it was as close to pure HTTP as you can get!
# barnabywalters the content-type was x-www-urlencoded
# aaronpk this? http://webmention.org/
# barnabywalters that’s the one
# barnabywalters yeah, it’s crazy. I’m not sure exactly how it originated
# barnabywalters presumably it was a widely-implemented trend
# barnabywalters all the semantics and requests are the same
# barnabywalters yep — still a mention between from a source to a target
# barnabywalters discovered by a Link element/header
# barnabywalters ++
# barnabywalters it’s fairly vital infrastructure
# barnabywalters there’s no reason to encumber it with XMLRPC other than BC
# aaronpk <link rel="pingback" href="http://pingback.me/webmention?uri=http://aaronparecki.com/webmention" />
# barnabywalters that breaks compatibility with the pingback spec
# barnabywalters it specifically states that the <link> element MUST match a particular regex
# barnabywalters yeah, to "ease implementation"
# barnabywalters apparently the irony was lost on hixie
# barnabywalters yep, must match this regex: <link rel="pingback" href="([^"]+)" ?/?>
# barnabywalters oh, right you are
# barnabywalters the line break in my IRC client made it look like you had an extra attribute in there :)
# barnabywalters cool, yep, that should work fine
# barnabywalters yeah, or "building blocks"
# barnabywalters "projects" is very product-oriented
# barnabywalters yeah, it’s great to see everything people are working on
# barnabywalters so, what do we reckon, components or building blocks?
# barnabywalters +1
# barnabywalters aaronpk: I ended up writing my own XMLRPC parser using DOMDocument
# barnabywalters as I didn’t want to rely on the xmlrpc extension being installed
# barnabywalters aaronpk: are you currently using IRC for notification infrastructure? you mentioned a bot lets you know when you receive a pingback