#indiewebcamp 2013-02-04

2013-02-04 UTC
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tantek
good morning #indiewebcamp!
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aaronpk
good morning!
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tommorris
hey tantek
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tommorris
a post I made on my site today got to the top slot of Hacker News. my VPS hosting has held up just fine
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hadleybeeman
Morning, dearies
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tommorris
hey hadleybeeman
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tantek
tommorris - very nice
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tommorris
no caching beyond Rails defaults
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hadleybeeman
tommorris - it's a good post. Are you getting comments anywhere?
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aaronpk
oh nice! It's #5 right now!
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tommorris
hadleybeeman: nope. just twitter and hacker news.
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hadleybeeman
I was wondering if the high volume was people agreeing with you or just pulled in by your headline.
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tommorris
mostly agreeing
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tommorris
haven't had anything negative or trollish through on Twitter
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aaronpk
I saw the headline yesterday and actually thought it was about retail store apps. surprised that it's about news apps!
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hadleybeeman
aaronpk, I was similarly confused. But it got me to read it.
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aaronpk
I thought it was going to be about those signs you see in front of stores or in malls saying "download your app"
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aaronpk
but yea, good post
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aaronpk
favorite line: "Do I buy a separate radio to listen to different stations?"
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tommorris
so, crowdsourced translation seems like a useful application of some kind of indie web of trust
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tantek
tommorris - wonderful rant. love it.
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tommorris
it's a bit sweary, but fun. created based on actual frustration from the other day when browsing a lot of news sites and being constantly hawked apps
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hadleybeeman
It's clear. Having spent the weekend with parents and grandparents, tommorris, I've been very aware of how much they will just take something (like an app) because they're told to. Your metaphors help explain to the non-techie what choices they have.
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tommorris
You might want to omit the numerous uses of the word "fucking" in the same sentence before passing it on to grandparents. ;)
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tommorris
although my dear departed maternal grandmother swore like a sailor.
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hadleybeeman
Yeah, I thought that, along with "or some bullshit like that" might turn them off. But the sentiment is sound.
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tommorris
perhaps someone can translate it into en-GB-vicar.
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hadleybeeman
likes this
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tantek
"how much they will just take something (like an app) because they're told to" - yeah, that problem. Hence, marketers!
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tantek
tommorris - adding a bit more fuel to your fire. ;)
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tommorris
tantek: just saw. thanks
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tantek
wow I just read Parmenter's post. now I'm *really* angry.
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tommorris
just reading. holy fuck
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tommorris
reposts to Reddit and then to his personal site.
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tantek
is having trouble phrasing a post - too angry
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tommorris
I've seen friends go through similar things far too often that I've become jaded.
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tantek
coming up with phrases like… "Dear sexist fucks in tech. GTFO."
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tantek
would sound better in an English accent for sure.
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tantek
ok I somehow made it a bit more positive
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tantek
can't believe this shit is still going on in 2013
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ianloic
wow
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tantek
I need to go take a walk around the building
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hadleybeeman
Yeah, I read it earlier today. It's pretty horrifying.
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tantek
was so angry as to have fingers shaking while typing.
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hadleybeeman
It's also sad that the community is such that she wasn't sure she could bring this up. SHE shouldn't be blamed for any of it.
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tantek
hadleybeeman - exactly. and why I posted the note I did.
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hadleybeeman
Which note, tantek?
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@t
Dear @sazzy, you are awesome in speaking &amp
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Loqi
speaking up: http://t.co/HEC1hdpJ Keep speaking &amp
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Loqi
writing
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Loqi
damn the trolls (ttk.me t4NL4)
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hadleybeeman
Well said.
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tantek
aaronpk, Loqi is over-escaping &s ^^^^
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Loqi
is done
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hadleybeeman
I think (hope) the more outrage we share over something like this, the more the few trolls will realise it isn't acceptable behaviour.
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hadleybeeman
(And that the rest of the world is watching. This isn't just passing-notes-in-school territory anymore)
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tommorris
also, Hacker News is predictably predictable.
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hadleybeeman
True, tommorris, but that doesn't make it okay.
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hadleybeeman
(IMO)
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tommorris
135,473 page views today.
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cgcardona
If you're referring to http://tommorris.org/posts/8070. yea everyone is mentioning it.
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tommorris
yeah. I'm embarassed in a British way.
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cgcardona
:-] I'm stoked for you in an American way. Nice work
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cgcardona
and (completely anecdotally) when I worked at Trulia my least favorite feature that I owned and the one that I heard the most negative feedback on was our damn mobile web interstitial.
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cgcardona
Nobody like that crap
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aaronpk
tommorris: awesome
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