#indiewebcamp 2013-01-16

2013-01-16 UTC
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erinjorichey.com edited /PuPuPu (+62) "/* Sites actively using PuPuPu */" (view diff)
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tantek :)
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erinjorichey.com edited /PuPuPu (+12) "/* Sites actively using PuPuPu */" (view diff)
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tommorris since I started by importing my stuff from other places and am now doing POSSE to Twitter, I guess I'm a PuPuPuer now.
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tantek tommorris - I don't think a batch import counts as "pull" - that's more backfilling.
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erinjo :-D Welcome
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tantek but if you're regularly polling a silo feed or some such then yeah, you're pulling.
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tommorris Hmm. That might be appropriate for Foursquare for people who aren't so enamoured with crazy OpenStreetMap duct-tape schemes.
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tantek or IG where there's no API to post to IG
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tantek so the best you can (currently) do with IG is to PESOS in your photos from IG to your own site, and then POSSE them out to Flickr, FB, etc. that would be a good example where PuPuPu is the best we can currently do.
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tommorris also, Instagram has native apps. mobile photo upload is still at an early stage.
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tantek There's no decent HTML5 mobile photo upload web app that I know of (yet).
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tommorris iOS 6 is apparently going to let you upload photos on <input type="file" />
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tommorris that is, if you already have a photo in your photo library, you'll be able to upload it in Safari
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tantek so does Firefox on Android and Chrome on Android (supposedly) in shipping versions, but I have yet to see a decent HTML5 web app that works with <input type="file" accept="image/*">
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tommorris.org edited /Main_Page (+104) "/* More */ linking to [[problems]], new page for listing stuff we're collectively brainstorming/hacking" (view diff)
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tantek you can try the demo here if you like: https://hacks.mozilla.org/2012/04/taking-pictures-with-the-camera-api-part-of-webapi/
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tommorris and there's the Media Capture API which I believe now works in desktop Chrome.
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tantek cool - will check back to see what you've written/stubbed in those pages.
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tantek here's some more info on "The Current State Of Photo/Video Capture In Mobile Browsers" https://plus.google.com/115133653231679625609/posts/bWvt1eu4KAn
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tantek this looks relevant: http://www.w3.org/TR/html-media-capture/
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tantek and of course, devmo: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/HTML/Element/Input#Image_capture_from_cameras
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tommorris.org created /photo_upload (+1162) "documenting approaches to photo upload" (view diff)
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tantek tommorris - please review my expansion of the photo upload article and see if it fits with your intent - and please feel free to re-organize accordingly.
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tommorris tantek: looks good
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tantek cool. thanks.
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@DeiSponsa RT @aral: Worrying trend using Facebook, Google+, and other walled gardens as blogs. Especially geeks should know better. #indieweb
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@yoz @mala @obra TIME TO INVOKE THE INDIEWEBCAMP http://indiewebcamp.com/Getting_Started /cc @t
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tantek Welcome Phae!
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Phae bonjour!
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tantek I hope you can join us for IndieWebCampUK 2013: http://indiewebcamp.com/2013/UK
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Phae ah, perhaps. can't even bare to think of september already.
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Phae :)
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tantek you can add yourself as tentative then ;)
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barnabywalters didn’t realise we had a tentative section, adds himself…
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tantek heck it says "Add yourself below to show interest in participating in IndieWebCampUK 2013: "
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tantek "to show interest"
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tantek :)
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Phae fine, fine
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Phae indieauth rejected my github auth
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tantek oh dear - does your github not link back to your personal domain?
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Phae dunno. thought it did. checking now.
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tantek also invites Phae to add herself to http://indiewebcamp.com/IRC-people when she gets her sign-in working.
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Phae yep, it does
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Phae hmm
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tantek URL?
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Phae fberriman.com bounces over to https://github.com/phae but doesn't seem to come back
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waterpigs.co.uk edited /2013/UK (+623) "/* RSVP */ Added myself as interested" (view diff)
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tantek aaronpk - looks like the github auth might be broken on indieauth
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tantek fberriman.com links to github.com/phae which links back to fberriman.com and ye the auth is failing
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barnabywalters hey, for some reason the 2012.dconstruct.org redirects to an advent calendar: http://2011.adfont-calendar.com/
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Phae shame it doesn't go back for another go, would eventually hit my twitter and work
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tantek I know aaronpk has used github in the past to auth in via his domain
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barnabywalters Phae: I believe it uses the first relme link it comes across, so you could always move the twitter link further up your source
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tantek so I'm not sure what broke there
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Phae i could. but that seems like fixing the wrong problem. :)
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tantek barnabywalters - it's supposed to fallback to the next link
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tantek if one fails
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barnabywalters ah, I forgot that
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@joCalejandro RT @aral: Worrying trend using Facebook, Google+, and other walled gardens as blogs. Especially geeks should know better. #indieweb
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tommorris spots a Phae in #indiewebcamp and waves.
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Phae hey tom
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tommorris checks fberriman.com and spots conference&gender posts. ;-)
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Phae oh, i know. you'd have thought i'd have learnt by now.
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tommorris I've done social-issues-in-tech posts a few times now and usually end up both regretting it and not giving a fuck.
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tommorris only regrets calling Brendan Eich a homophobe because it makes working with Mozillans slightly more interesting.
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Phae i've done the full loop in the last fortight.. not care, care a lot, blog, regret blogging, tire, not care again
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Phae that's my 2013 contribution to the topic over
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barnabywalters Phae: you got it over with early :)
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Phae i consider january the month for doing that sort of self-flagellation. opticians, doctors, dentist, write a blog post that'll get you called names...
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tantek Phae - I too am getting that sort of thing out of the way. Though I haven't done the blog post kind of thing yet.
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tantek (January)
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tantek tommorris - hope you saw the new Mozilla community guidelines
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tommorris tantek: I haven't, I should probably have a look.
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tantek if there's anything there that makes you feel "interesting" about interacting with Mozillans, please feel free to let me know.
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tantek http://tantek.com/2013/014/t2/mozilla-community-participation-guidelines-v1
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tantek it's my hope that you can view your interactions with Mozillans in that context rather than any other context (having to do with any particular individual's behaviors).
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tommorris oh, it'll be interesting given some of the drama fires I've had to deal with this week.
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tantek oh boy
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tommorris nah, my dealings with Mozillans has been awesome. it's just when Wikimedia was working with Mozilla, I had to warn people at WMUK that I had previously attacked Eich over Proposition 8.
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tommorris full disclosure of previous drama in order to prevent future drama
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tantek fair
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Phae https://twitter.com/jaffathecake/status/291634340285280257
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Phae that is quite fun
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@jaffathecake RT @tabatkins: Hahaha, go here http://t.co/TEbWOV8e and change the last part to your own twitter name. /ht @Brentendo_64
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barnabywalters Phae: ha ha that’s brilliant :D
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barnabywalters pity it doesn’t load the stylesheets for some reason on my personal site
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Phae i just did it to mine, and personally, i think i may take that up as a writing style permanently
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Phae clear improvement
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barnabywalters I’m not so sure about “I be a actizzle proponent of independent publishin n' identitizzle ballazhip on tha web”, but the rest is brilliant
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barnabywalters I might use that for this year’s TLAP day joke
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