#indiewebcamp 2012-11-05

2012-11-05 UTC
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@sandeepshetty Hello #indieweb world! :) http://www.sandeep.io/
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sandeepshetty Hey all! Finally got around to launching my new site (http://sandeep.io) using my indieweb personal publishing webapp (https://github.com/converspace/converspace/)
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sandeepshetty I have till about 10 posts before I need to implement permalink :) and I was hoping to get feedback (pros/cons) from you'll on which way to go: slugs based on post_id OR post_datetime () OR post_title?
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@BarnabyWalters Woot! The various modules of my #indieweb site all now have upwards of 90% test coverage #web #dev #php (http://waterpigs.co.uk/notes/532)
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tantek congrats sandeepshetty and barnabywalters on your indieweb progress! that's great to hear.
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tantek sandeepshetty - permalink URL design is a good topic for discussion (id vs datetime vs title vs slugs)
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tantek I think we have some discussion on the wiki about it - will have to go check
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tantek bbiab - in transit
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sandeepshetty tantek - searched the wiki but didn't find anything relevant...
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barnabywalters is rethinking the value of having a separate /activity collection
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barnabywalters especially as I’m just using notes for anything which isn’t an article
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barnabywalters the only real use-case I had for having activity separate to 'objects' was making edit histories for articles
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aaronpk I was going to use my "/notes" path for everything not an article
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tantek URL design is definitely important, and there are varying opinions depending on the developer/designer :)
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aaronpk has an upcoming URL design post
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barnabywalters tantek: that’s putting it mildy :) But this is more of an architectural decision than a URL one
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barnabywalters e.g. questioning the value of maintaining lists of things I’ve made, *and* lists of the verbs which went into making them
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barnabywalters aaronpk: always good to see more URL design posts! I get the impression it’s not something which is talked about enough
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barnabywalters decided to go with ditching activity and instead attaching edit histories directly to articles, where they belong
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@zakkain Considering moving away from @gimmebar to something else because the provided RSS is link-only, no imgs to scrape (with @ifttt) #ownYourData
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tantek barnabywalters - sounds like a good decision
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tantek btw in other silo news: looks like Instagram is slowly rolling out profile pages for users
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tantek e.g. http://instagram.com/mikeyk/
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barnabywalters tantek: so no need for gramstagram ;)
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tantek mine "will be available soon" apparently: http://instagram.com/tantek/
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barnabywalters ooh, they’re rather nice
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tantek yeah
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tantek someone should do gangamstagram
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barnabywalters tantek: +∞
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barnabywalters hm, I’m getting a slight problem where the images aren’t loading
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barnabywalters the header looks lovely, but the rest are just blank grey squares :/
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barnabywalters same with the profile pic
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@Ryan_Koch What is #data protection really? http://itrkoch.blogspot.com/2012/11/what-is-data-protection-really.html #OwnYourData #backup
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tantek yeah I think they announced it at a conference or something and it's getting a bit of demand ;)
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tantek just requested that they support rel="me" on profile Website links: https://www.facebook.com/mikeyk/posts/10100418468278013?comment_id=5146162&offset=0&total_comments=14
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tantek feel free to "Like" ;)
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aaronpk "The page you requested was not found."
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barnabywalters wow, I haven’t “liked” anything on fb for ages
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barnabywalters yep, I’m getting the error too
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tantek ah ok - private post then
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tantek sorry - I can never tell with FB posts what's public and what's private
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tantek so I just treat everything I post there as public
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tantek ooh ooh!
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tantek "thx for the suggestion--will get rolled out with next push"
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tantek Yes!
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barnabywalters wow! awesome
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tantek :D
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aaronpk oh nice
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barnabywalters so is that for instagram only, or for facebook in general (would be AWESOME)
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tantek next I'll be asking for hCard and h-card ;)
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barnabywalters lol
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tantek IG
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barnabywalters well that’s still pretty great
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tantek does IG have Oauth?
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tantek aaronpk - perhaps we'll be able to add IG to IndieAuth?
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aaronpk whee!
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aaronpk yep looks like they have oauth https://github.com/ropiku/omniauth-instagram
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tantek the auto-rotating header image grid is brilliant
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tantek no need to pick one big header image
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tantek just let their algorithms do the picking for you
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tantek your header looks as pretty as the photos you take
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barnabywalters tantek: it’s making me want to implement that with my openphoto API
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barnabywalters hm… perhaps automatically prefer photos tagged with the tags of notes shown on my homepage…
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tantek yeah this is a nice clean photo grid
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tantek profile page
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tantek hmm - minor "flaw" - not responsive/adaptive
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tantek but then again, neither is' flickr's "/photos/tantek" or "/people/tantek" pages either.
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tantek have to admit I prefer *some* minor visible (not just on hover) annotation of activity happening on photos (faves/likes, comments)
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tantek e.g. like Flickr does it
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tantek wow Wikipedia is a mess when it comes to understanding feeds, feed readers vs. aggregators etc.
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tantek they redirect Feedreader (in various forms) to News Aggregator - which is a far cry from meaning the same thing: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feedreader
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tantek what a cluster. based on the Talk page I'm not even going to bother trying to fix it. tommorris - any suggestions? This feels like one of those cases where it makes more sense to give up on Wikipedia and wiki the subject elsewhere (like on indiewebcamp.com)
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tommorris tantek: I'll add it to my todo list. I'm a bit busy with a little election. ;-)
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tantek interesting, I get 22M+ results for feedreader and only 15M+ for "feed reader" (on Google)
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tantek Bing has only 437k for feedreader, and more, 1340k for "feed reader"
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tantek hmm looks like Feedreader (no space) is a specific product too (how original). whereas "Feed reader" seems to always be used in a generic fashion. with space it is.
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