#indiewebcamp 2012-09-26

2012-09-26 UTC
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waterpigs.co.uk edited /patterns/note-list (+125) "/* See Also */ Added ypatterns link" (view diff)
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waterpigs.co.uk edited /patterns/note-list (+142) "/* See Also */ added DSI wiki link" (view diff)
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waterpigs.co.uk edited /Indie_Anywhere (+75) "/* Indie Anywhere */" (view diff)
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waterpigs.co.uk created /patterns/hovercard (+593) "Created" (view diff)
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waterpigs.co.uk created /patterns/user-profile (+461) "Created page" (view diff)
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waterpigs.co.uk edited /Indie_Anywhere (+228) "/* Hovercards */ Added wordpress.com hovercard details" (view diff)
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barnabywalters there are actually more hovercards spread around the web than I originally thought
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barnabywalters as well as large inconsistencies between different implementations — similar to free context autosuggest.
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tantek barnabywalters - why the hierarchy in the names of the new pages? why not just use the names at the root level?
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tantek "pattern" is merely a one particular categorization
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tantek better to just use a "Category:" instead in the page
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barnabywalters tantek: putting them at root level felt like namespace pollution
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tantek and keep pages fairly flat - like Wikipedia does
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tantek namespace pollution is more of a theoretical problem than actual problem
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barnabywalters tantek: alright, alright, I’m just addicted to outlines, okay ;)
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tantek in other words - works for Wikipedia
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barnabywalters good point
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tantek outlines/hierarchies don't work well in collaborative creative environments because everybody has a different sense of how things should be classified / put into a hierarchy
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tantek better to just make things flat
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tantek and anyone who wants to categorize can add their own categories
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barnabywalters okay, as with previous AI mistakes, I’ll correct as I go back to edit
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tantek or their own
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tantek "
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tantek better to fix sooner than later
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tantek don't want to imply that a hierarchical "pattern" exists / is implied / is desired
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barnabywalters I have a load more examples to add so it’ll be done sooner or later
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tantek ;)
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barnabywalters s/or/rather than
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Loqi barnabywalters meant to say: I have a load mrather thane examples to add so it’ll be done sooner rather than later
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tantek just go through your Contributions and cmd-click all the "pattern/*" pages into their own tabs
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tantek then move them to root names without "pattern/"
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barnabywalters I have learnt more about IA working on the IWC wiki than I have on any "real" previous project
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barnabywalters tantek: how did the portuguese conference go?
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tantek @RefreshLX went great!
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tantek lots of interest in microformats2
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barnabywalters cool
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tantek and plugged indiewebcamp a bit too, in the context of everyone should have their own domain with their contact info :)
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barnabywalters woo!
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barnabywalters so how is microformats + gaia work going? I had a look on the moz wiki but it didn’t look like there was much there
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tantek barnabywalters - the moz wiki page on microformats for FirefoxOS/Gaia is only an outline
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tantek much of the work is being done in particular open source / standards areas
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tantek e.g. the microformats2 node.js parser that Glenn Jones is writing
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tantek btw I thought this was an interesting IndieWeb piece by Julien: http://blog.superfeedr.com/no-one-owns-open-web/
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tantek !tell aaronpk looks like indieauth.com fails with http://gordonbrander.com/ "Internal Server Error" (e.g. when trying to sign-in to the IndieWebCamp wiki)
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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tantek !tell aaronpk … and he's got a rel-me to a Twitter URL so that should work
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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tantek anyone here played with Privly? http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/229630898/protect-your-content-anywhere-on-the-web-privly
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tantek looks like something that could be re-adapted for indieweb use instead
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tantek that is, a browser plug-in to turn indieweb permashortlinks into in-line content, some of which could be auth-protected.
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tantek.com moved /patterns/user-profile to /user-profile "flatter is better. works for Wikipedia."
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tantek.com moved /patterns/hovercard to /hovercard "flatter is better. works for Wikipedia."
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tantek.com moved /patterns/note-list to /note-list "flatter is better. works for Wikipedia."
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tantek.com moved /patterns/note to /note
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tantek.com moved /patterns/note-post to /note-post "flatter is better. works for Wikipedia."
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tantek.com edited /projects (+500) "moved tent.io to "other" (since no one here is dogfooding it), added OpenPhoto to the Experimental list, along with the fact that Barnaby Walters is using it on his own site!" (view diff)
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