#indiewebcamp 2012-09-23

2012-09-23 UTC
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waterpigs.co.uk
edited /webactions (+5) "/* web actions */ Corrected demo link to 2011"
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barnabywalters
I finally got my sketches and notes and thoughts together on web actions/intents/activities
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barnabywalters
warning: contains stick men and detailed examples
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barnabywalters
feedback greatly appreciated. The goal of this article is to outline how *I* see web actions working, and see if that syncs up with how others see them
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waterpigs.co.uk
edited /webactions (+112) "/* See Also */ added my post"
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brennannovak
barnabywalters: bonjour matey!
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barnabywalters
hey brennannovak!
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brennannovak
how goes it?
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brennannovak
pretty nifty. been super busy with conferences, working at startup, etc...
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barnabywalters
great — which startup is that? the emotion mapping one?
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brennannovak
Tantek gave glowing reviews of IndiewWebCampUK and such
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barnabywalters
brennannovak: I certainly enjoyed it! It was a rare chance to meet and work with other webby people IRL
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brennannovak
nah, emoome is my personal project- not quite a startup yet. Startup is @tylergillies twitter intelligence engine thing
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barnabywalters
ah, yep, he mentioned that
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brennannovak
I love your little search box that pulls up @name and #hashtopics
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Loqi
loves brennannovak
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brennannovak
thanks Loqi
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Loqi
you're welcome
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barnabywalters
we love you too, Loqi!
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barnabywalters
brennannovak: thanks. It was my warm-up for getting into front end dev a bit more
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brennannovak
well done sir
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barnabywalters
can socialigniter expose a list of names and used tags? it would probably be easy to retro-fit
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brennannovak
I'm a bit bummed i've been so quiet on my IndieWeb / SI efforts
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brennannovak
it wouldn't be too hard to pull down a list of users from the API, currently do not have any storing of #hashtags but could easily implement via the Tags app
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barnabywalters
assuming there's a JSON API endpoint for it, we can just pull it in via ajax, right?
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brennannovak
yah
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barnabywalters
I'll add a feature request issue for it. Not high priority, but fun :)
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brennannovak
I've been meaning to extract the whole activity feed /home part of SI to be it's own App, I can totally plan to add that functionality
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brennannovak
yah, please do that :)
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barnabywalters
brennannovak: extracting the feed reader from SI would be *fab*. did you read the web actions article I posted earlier?
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brennannovak
no, link pls :)
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barnabywalters
it's a bit heavy, but has cartoons in :)
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brennannovak
heh
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barnabywalters
but a big part of it is allowing feed readers and publishing clients to be separate
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brennannovak
cartoons make EVERYTHING all the more palatable
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barnabywalters
brennannovak++
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Loqi
brennannovak has 8 karma
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brennannovak
my fav #
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brennannovak
k, lemme read it
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brennannovak
after I hit the lieu
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brennannovak
barnabywalters: LOVE "i.e. the web — suck on that, facebook"
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barnabywalters
brennannovak: :)
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brennannovak
barnabywalters: very well done man! Once again, how old are you?
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barnabywalters
I try not to… *use* my age too much. It can be tempting to hide behind it sometimes
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@socialigniter
Really great article by @BarnabyWalters about Web Actions http://waterpigs.co.uk/articles/web-actions #indieweb
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brennannovak
well, that's quite admirable! Needless to say, I believe you have a very bright & successful future ahead of you ;)
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barnabywalters
so that's my big vision for loosely coupled feed readers/publishing clients/others
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barnabywalters
it's very much the opposite of tent.io's OAUTH ALL THE THINGS attitude — something I want to avoid
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@BarnabyWalters
#indieweb people: Let’s avoid this attitude to web app interoperability: OAUTH ALL THE THINGS
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brennannovak
barnabywalters: that's a great idea, your solution seems very intuitive and much easier to implement than Tent.io thing
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aaronpk
barnabywalters: hello! Just sat down with brennannovak at this coffee shop, going to read your post now!
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barnabywalters
aaronpk: hello! Your twitter rewriting gets a mention. not sure I’ve actually linked to it yet
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brennannovak
interesting, so you think feed readers should be totally decoupled from the publishing aspect (code wise)? Or is that something left up to App builder to archtect?
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barnabywalters
brennannovak: up to the app builder
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barnabywalters
most of what I’m thinking about happens in the browser
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barnabywalters
so, for example, if there was a great feed reader which was also a content publisher, the browser extensions would allow me to use the feed reading with the publisher of my choice
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barnabywalters
it's all about user control and choice
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aaronpk
barnabywalters: cool, this seems reasonable, and seems like a lot of the things needed are already in place!
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aaronpk
seems like some browser extensions could do this without too much trouble
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barnabywalters
aaronpk: such as yours!
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brennannovak
YES, YES! This sounds excellent!
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barnabywalters
technologically, all that has to be done is enhancing aaronpk's extension to cover more than twitter, and making sure all out publishing interfaces support filling of the UI via the query string
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barnabywalters
we can worry about discovery et al later on.
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barnabywalters
I want to hear what tantek thinks before I do any major implementation, given that he came up with the web actions proposal I’m modelling this on
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aaronpk
did I do a blog post about my twitter reply hack, or just post a video?
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barnabywalters
aaronpk: just a video, I think
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barnabywalters
is signing off. goodnight everyone!
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Loqi
see you in the morning!
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brennannovak
lo tantek: how goes your euro trip?
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tantek
brennannovak - it goes well and is ending soon
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brennannovak
tantek: are you just on vacation or over there for official business?
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