04:10 <xjjk> hello

04:10 <xjjk> does anyone have any thoughts on the best way to archive Activity Streams data?

04:10 <xjjk> so far, (for Atom) I'm making 1-entry documents…

04:11 <xjjk> similar for JSON

04:11 <xjjk> wondering if anyone has done anything different

04:49 <voxpelli> xjjk: what do you mean by archiving?

04:50 <voxpelli> xjjk: The JSON spec for ActivityStreams eg. specifies a paging mechanism - that isn't enough?

04:50 <xjjk> voxpelli: it's easier to refer to the atom spec… I want to save each <entry>

04:50 <xjjk> voxpelli: missed that, I'll take a look

04:50 <voxpelli> xjjk: an individual URL for each entry?

04:51 <xjjk> voxpelli: yes, that's a description

04:52 <xjjk> voxpelli: I don't see anything about paging in http://activitystrea.ms/specs/json/1.0/

04:53 <voxpelli> xjjk: Atom itself seems to define something they call "atom entry documents": http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc4287

04:53 <xjjk> voxpelli: ah

04:53 <xjjk> that's probably what I want… reading

04:54 <xjjk> voxpelli: that's actually exactly what I wanted, thanks

04:54 <xjjk> and was planning on doing

04:54 <xjjk> just wanted to make sure it was valid

04:54 <xjjk> voxpelli: thanks!

04:54 <voxpelli> no idea on how to reference an individual atom entry document from an atom feed document though

04:55 <xjjk> with a URI, no idea… but in general you can just refer to the entry's <id>?

04:58 <xjjk> on a random tangent… are there any RDF representations of AS in use? I saw some discussion on the mailing list but nothing past what seemed brainstorming

04:58 <xjjk> would love to just have 1 HTML+RDFa document instead of HTML, Atom, JSON…

04:59 <voxpelli> xjjk: There's the hAtom microformat - but I don't think anyone has tried to get activitystreams to work within it

05:00 <voxpelli> regarding the entry's id - that's just a UID-kind of thing - right? No real way to use it to lookup something?

05:00 <xjjk> I don't think so?

05:01 <xjjk> most people do use a permalink as the ID

05:01 <voxpelli> xjjk: check: http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc4287#section-4.2.6

05:01 <voxpelli> I used a tag uri for my id:s last time I created activitystreams: http://taguri.org/

05:02 <voxpelli> Since not all of my activities had a real URL it was impossible to use URL:s

05:02 <xjjk> interesting

05:03 <xjjk> from the semantic Web camp, you'd always use a dereferencable URL as an ID

05:04 <xjjk> well, no, matter, not something I need to worry about

05:04 <xjjk> voxpelli: thanks for the pointer to the Atom spec