2012/Own Your Comments
2012-182 15:00 Teroperate
This session is about IndieWeb Commenting and feedback systems.
What does it mean to post a comment in an indie web? As the author of a comment, you should own and control it, most likely you should post it on your own site. But we still want to have the benefits of centralized commenting systems like seeing a list of all comments left on a post, filtering spam comments, etc.
One way to handle comments is through the pingback or trackback protocols, both of which are widely implemented in many major blogging platforms. We can discuss the merits and drawbacks of each, and other possible solutions. A workshop session could involve implementing trackbacks/pingbacks on your own site, or implementing a new mechanism for using them.
Trackback and pingback create a pogostick UI. (have to click somewhere then click back)
Not a good standard format for pushing status updates or microblog entries on your own site.
Goal: Let me link to other people's comments but I don't want their actual content on my site.
Can we canonicalize twitter's scheme of showing what tweets are in-reply-to other tweets?
rel="in-reply-to" the root post and order-by datetime
Salmon: syndicated comments on someone else's site that swim upstream. includes crypto. http://www.salmon-protocol.org/
Can we either enhance pingback or scale back salmon? Pingback is xml-rpc and so would be very easy to extend, provided we agreed on a protocol.
Who is posting comments to their own site?
Answers from attendees:
When posting a link to Facebook, Facebook shows summary of the thing you're commenting on. Example of a good UI. Also allows you to choose thumbnail image, remove preview, etc. Third Party Apps posting links can completely customise the preview display.
Facebook's comments on links are relevant because they're restricted to your social graph. If there were a good indieweb social graph solution, this indicates it would be solved as well.
Difference between posting a reply to the author, vs adding context to the people you're sharing with. Example: People sharing links on Twitter and adding text to the link, they are not replying to the author.
If we had an "in-reply-to" attribute then you could search google for all pages that are "in reply to" a given URL.