#indieweb 2024-05-11
2024-05-11 UTC
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cophee [tantek]: That happened to my art account and it got permanently deleted ☹️
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# cophee capjamesg[d] I've made a Google Form for the questions!
# cophee and please let me know if the indieweb/decentralised social media section explanation isn't clear or is missing anything important!!
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# cophee [tantek]: I think the worst part of it was losing the drawings I did when I was a teen – the account was 6 years old and really showed my growth as an artist
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capjamesg IndieWebCamp Düsseldorf will be starting in 15 minutes! https://events.indieweb.org/2024/05/indiewebcamp-d%C3%BCsseldorf-2024-lPSJYTuqCdL2
# cophee capjamesg[d]: AHHH I'm having dinner atm!!!
# capjamesg Etherpad for the site demos event: https://etherpad.indieweb.org/DusseldorfSiteIntros2024
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# pcarrier jkphl.is
# pcarrier [edit] https://jkphl.is
# pcarrier (https://jkphl.is/index.php old homepage)
# pcarrier [edit] (https://jkphl.is/index.php old homepage)
# pcarrier [edit] https://jkphl.is
# pcarrier what was the mind mapping software?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "mind mapping software" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "mind mapping software is ____", a sentence describing the term)
# pcarrier SGTM. where is it?
# cophee Hopping on in a bit!!
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# cophee Oh I think it just froze!!
# cophee capjamesg[d]: Ooo ok!!
# cophee I think it disconnected
# cophee OHHH
# cophee the passcode is 513638
# cophee for the meeting
# cophee No worries!!
# IWDiscord <cophee>
# cophee For future reference, it can be fount here ^
# cophee yes hahaha
# cophee by the way, the caption's in German for the zoom for some reason
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# pcarrier ahoy
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# stefan1 :)
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GWG Session 1: https://etherpad.indieweb.org/whatwhere
# capjamesg What goes where session: https://etherpad.indieweb.org/whatwhere
# cophee this is awesome
# cophee yes! can hear perfectly
# cophee When I think of a feed that aggregates website content + allows interactivity, the first thing that comes to mind is Tumblr
# cophee that is true
# cophee i feel the same way about blogging vs social media
# cophee tumblr had a bit of both i think before it fell off
# cophee also what about private vs public posts (e.g. separation between professional or private feeds)
# cophee i see
# pcarrier private as in pseudonymous identity disconnected from your work identity but public content, or content that only (authenticated) viewers should see, or both?
# pcarrier [edit] private as in pseudonymous identity disconnected from your work identity, or content that only (authenticated) viewers should see, or both?
# pcarrier [edit] private as in pseudonymous identity disconnected from your work identity, or content that only (authenticated) viewers should see, or both? for the former, seems you'd "automatically" want a separate website
# pcarrier [edit] private as in pseudonymous identity disconnected from your work identity, or content that only (authenticated) viewers should see, or both? for the former, seems you'd "automatically" want a separate website?
# cophee @pcarrier for example people making private instagram accounts where only authenticated viewers can see
# cophee I think a lot of people are more content consumers than producers on Instagram
# cophee A website my partner + I are working on has a shortened version of our content in the home page
# cophee https://beretegg.page/
# cophee but i think i agree with the short posts belonging to the home page
# cophee or on our own page
# cophee it's similar to how people post images without captions on Instagram
# cophee but like to use it just to keep a log of their daily lives
# cophee capjamesg[d]: yes! I think a lot of people I know use it for the temporal aspect
# cophee as well
# cophee HAHAHA
# cophee justifiable
# capjamesg See https://chat.indieweb.org/2024-04-07 for discussion.
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# pcarrier everybody has Meta accounts though. I don't want to sign up / confirm-email-or-the-like on every website I'd consume protected content from. I also don't want to deal with SAML/OIDC/…, neither as a visitor nor as a publisher
# pcarrier [edit] "everybody" has Meta accounts though. I don't want to sign up / confirm-email-or-the-like on every website I'd consume protected content from. I also don't want to deal with SAML/OIDC/…, neither as a visitor nor as a publisher
# pcarrier [edit] "everybody" has Meta accounts though (but the people who've already decided not to use their services). I don't want to sign up / confirm-email-or-the-like on every website I'd consume protected content from. I also don't want to deal with SAML/OIDC/…, neither as a visitor nor as a publisher
# cophee pcarrier[d]: would indieauth help with this?
# pcarrier indielogin is cute, but what do you expect my sister to enter? 😄
# pcarrier [edit] indielogin is cute and serves the needs of our community, but what do you expect my sister to enter? 😄
# cophee that is so true
# cophee pcarrier[d]: i was discussing this with my partner and he said that it would be hard to get normal people on board
# cophee + results from my survey from friends also show that the complicated part of setting up a website might be a bar of entry from them
# cophee is it possible to simplify the process of creating/hosting a website with everything in one package?
# pcarrier oh yeah
# pcarrier add a <Start a free profile> button that goes to, IDK, https://new.ident.me, where you can register wing.ident.me with an E-mail address in 1 minute
# pcarrier [edit] add a <Start a free profile> button that goes to, IDK, https://new.ident.me, where you can register wing.ident.me with an pseudonym + E-mail address in 1 minute
# cophee pcarrier[d]: that would be v cool
# pcarrier [edit] add a <Start a free profile> button that goes to, IDK, https://new.ident.me, where you can register https://wing.ident.me with an pseudonym + E-mail address in 1 minute
# cophee my partner's in tech as well and he said that if making a pseudonym/website is as easy as making an email address, it would work a lot better for the normal folks
# pcarrier there is linktr.ee
# cophee yes!
# cophee a lot of people love it since it's so easy
# pcarrier well, couldn't you use linktr.ee with indieauth?
# cophee i have no idea hahaha
# cophee but then that also poses the threat of if the service shuts down
# pcarrier that's always going to be true, unless you pay for your own domain name every year and manage where it points to…
# pcarrier [edit] that's always going to be true, unless you pay for your own domain name every year / few years and manage where it points to…
# cophee yeah...
# pcarrier ah, linktr.ee doesn't `rel="me"`, otherwise I think it'd work
# cophee what if there's an indieweb ver of it?
# pcarrier what would make it more "indieweb"? bring your own domain?
# pcarrier [edit] what would make it more "indieweb"? bring your own domain? open source so it can be self-hosted?
# cophee pcarrier[d]: I guess so!
# pcarrier [edit] what would make it more "indieweb"? bring your own domain? open source so it can be self-hosted? microformats like `rel="me"`?
# cophee capjamesg[d] I wrote the characters/letters on my iPad on Vectornator and then exported it as an SVG to my computer
# cophee And then used CSS stroke path animations!
# cophee Only the fading in/out for different languages was done using some JQuery
# cophee I like this one: https://mylinks.ai/cafeclub as an alternative to linktree
# cophee I used it for my old uni soc and it shows a preview of our Instagram posts
# cophee [edit] I like this one: https://mylinks.ai/cafeclub as an alternative to linktree
# cophee if it has microformats that would be awesome 😆
# cophee having the ability to aggregate all your feeds on a home page + maybe even publish to it
# cophee [edit] if it has microformats that would be awesome 😆
# cophee having the ability to aggregate all your feeds on a home page + even publish to it
# cophee [tantek]: 100%, I just use that for my university society since we didn't have a website
# pcarrier jeeesus, https://linktr.ee/pcarrier is 3.5MB resources / 1MB transferred
# pcarrier [edit] wooow, https://linktr.ee/pcarrier is 3.5MB resources / 1MB transferred
# pcarrier [edit] wooow, https://linktr.ee/pcarrier is 3.5MB resources / 1MB transferred
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# cophee pcarrier[d]: that's bigggggg
# cophee for a site with two links
# pcarrier yup
# pcarrier still nothing compared to pcarrier.com but I have a ton of excuses 😄
# pcarrier [edit] still nothing compared to pcarrier.com but I have excuses 😄
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# cophee sucks that twitter shut down its api
# cophee would've been so cool
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# cophee what about anonymous comment boxes for people without webmentions + let them add an email address or name if they want to
# cophee might be harder to moderate but can potentially ban from IP
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# stefan1 on the topic of styling webmeentions. This one is about sidenotes... but could be comments aswell: https://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2023/09/12/nuclear-anchored-sidenotes/
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# cophee that is awesome!!!!
# cophee Oh thank you
# cophee I'm clapping too 🫡 👏
# dletorey What time are you finishing today in Düsseldorf
# cophee i'm listening in and out and just got a cms working on my website 😄
# cophee next i will try to implement webmentions
# cophee thank you!!!
# cophee thanks loqi woot indeed
# cophee capjamesg[d]: 😂
# cophee HAHAH i like the announcements
# cophee I wish I can speak German 😔
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# cophee capjamesg[d]: when I was in Japan, I tried for 6 months to learn the correct pronunciation of Brot 😭 my German friends tried their best to teach me
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# cophee [qubyte]: I love international communities! Sadly we didn't have any Italians in my country town region
# cophee Thank you so much capjamesg[d]
# cophee [qubyte]: HAHAHAH the good old akiba
# cophee capjamesg[d]: Loqi 🥹 💓
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# dletorey Floor 2?
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# [Al_Abut] Omg, layering in the IWC with my usual Sat morning routine of watching English soccer is so exciting and confusing
# [Al_Abut] I think James just scored a goal
# [Al_Abut] Readwise is great - I’m a paid user of their Reader app, which is separate from just the focused annotation tool.
# [Al_Abut] It’s so powerful with tags and summarization that it’s basically become my bookmarking datastore.
# [Al_Abut] Question for [capjamesg] - could you send a book page a webmention? In a sort of “I’m also reading this book” kind of way.
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# stefan1 here´s a library app with a shiny bookshelf for inspiration :) https://www.koingosw.com/products/librarianpro/
# [Al_Abut] Looks just like the old Delicious Library Mac app
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[dominik] Roy Tang’s Discworld page: https://roytang.net/topics/discworld/
# [Al_Abut] Mike Haynes has a great example of a book library in Wordpress: https://crashthearcade.com/book-list/
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# cophee No webmentions yet but capjamesg[d] just made a post about the CMS 🫡
# cophee Gotta head to bed now though! 1:11AM here
# cophee was really cool hearing about the progress in IndieWeb
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[KevinMarks] Reading scrollback, omg.lol is better than LinkTree
# cophee [KevinMarks]: I LOVE THAT
# cophee so much personality
# cophee capjamesg[d]: 🥹 Thank you
# [KevinMarks] And more indieweb friendly. Also they have a lot of extra nice stuff, like a mastodon instance
# sanzarote Hey people, cool to see that this channel exists. I don't know what's well-known here, but here's an old personal site (not of mine): http://autofish.net/
# sanzarote it's even http only
# [Al_Abut] Are you sure? There’s no audio
# [Al_Abut] The audio is muted
# [Al_Abut] Ah, we’re back
# [Al_Abut] No problem! Enjoying the radio show ;)
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